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Wow, I can't believe some of the stone-age gender roles that still exist today, even here in America! I agree mostly with Sabine...have you hung around a herd of moms? All they talk about are coos & babbles misinterpreted as words, diapers, toys, baby food and poo. Their world is defined by 4 walls and their world view is narrowed down to a fine butt crack. And if not babies and babydom being discussed, it's usually gossip or clothes. Seriously, who on EARTH would WANT to hang around someone that dull unless of course you were in the same boat? Dudes talk about EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD! Which I enjoy doing too! (which I guess is one reason why married dads sometimes have a way of gravitating towards me when I'm around *lol*) Not that I condone this, but I think the type aw21 is talking about is really only having a kid to fufill social obligation than actually WANTING to have them (as their CLEAR AND PRESENT DISINTEREST indicates). I wonder, if they had the freedom to choose (or the bravery to admit there IS a choice already present), how many of them would opt out? Odds are, their mindset is that of a worker drone, falling in line with that worn out track that having kids "is just something you do when you grow up" without even thinking. And, more often than not, whatever thought IS given towards this decision is in hindsight (something we childfree nickname as "breeder's remorse" *lol*)...Though to be fair, it's not always regret...BUT at the same time, it's the kind of thing where if they had the chance to duck out with no repercussions, it's safe to guess what their answer would be... (hint: NO! *LOL*) Now that I think about it, I HAVE seen my share of dudes who brag and talk about their kids, sometimes to the point of irritation (to ME *LOL*), but never EVER to the degree of the typical female...maybe about 1/3 as much. Maybe it's because I live in such a huge city (L.A.). The only exception I've seen is a single dad, where he was stuck spending so much time raising his kid, it became his entire world and his identity evaporated, becoming unrecognizable. Sad to see, really. About the father's lack of participation and no one really noticing or caring, I think this is further proof that the "decision" of having kids was really more about social obligation than any genuine desire (in this case, it's about placating the female...Having it because it's what SHE wanted/expected out of him).