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Don't you think that if God created the flood, God could get rid of the water? Is it any more far fetched than the entire world being covered in ice?


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How did plants survive?

How did whole species of animals survive? Their habitats were devastated. What about random influences?

How did they migrate to other places without food, and not manage to leave any of their young behind? ie: How did the duck billed platypus manage to travel from Mt Arafat to Australia?

Why was inbreeding not a problem for the animals?

How is there such a diverse human population today if only Noah, his wife and their 3 sons and wives were on the boat.

Why wasn't inbreeding a problem for humans after the flood?

It's not a terribly believable story! In fact it's totally unbelievable!

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Just to answer some of your crazy question Sikpicksie

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How did whole species of animals survive? Their habitats were devastated. What about random influences?

How did they migrate to other places without food, and not manage to leave any of their young behind? ie: How did the duck billed platypus manage to travel from Mt Arafat to Australia?

Why was inbreeding not a problem for the animals?

How is there such a diverse human population today if only Noah, his wife and their 3 sons and wives were on the boat.

Why wasn't inbreeding a problem for humans after the flood?


Umm, I think if god can cover the entire world with ice he can do all those things.

Yes thats right the entire world was covered in ice. That is what the ice age was like. Frozen solid.

Some posters don't even understand reality yet still reference it to justify fantasy.

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I suspect that flooding occurred -- in a limited region. However, as far as the locals were concerned, it was THEIR whole world!

But the entire earth? Naw...

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I think this deserves some research for a factual answer. My opinion is that when God made the waters recede, it was all forced up north and froze. To me that makes sense, but would take a lot more thought and research. Ms A brings up a good point: at the time "the whole world" was only the local lands that the people at that time knew. They knew nothing of the greater world beyond their boundaries. The waters became the oceans and the frozen glaciers. Water can and does "recede" when it finds a place to flow to and evaporates some of it's bulk. I live in Nevada, in a desert. When you drive out around the desert, especially in the Pyramid Lake area, you can see all around on the rocky cliffs the water lines of the ancient oceans. Nevada, in prehistoric times was not a desert, but an ocean!


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Here's another thought: Where did all the waters go after Hurricane Katrina or other devastating floods that have covered and leveled cities, like New Orleans? The "waters receded". When there is a force powerful enough, waters can cover an immense area and stay for quite awhile before receding. All that is left of the prehistoric ocean of Nevada are two lakes from that time, Lake Pyramid which still has the prehistoric fish, the Cui'ui and Lake Lahontan. Most of the rest is high, dry desert.


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Originally Posted By: Skeptic


Umm, I think if god can cover the entire world with ice he can do all those things.

Yes thats right the entire world was covered in ice. That is what the ice age was like. Frozen solid.



Awwwwww Skeptic,

Of course! Now I just feel silly!
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Originally Posted By: Gaye Atheist/Agnostic
If the answer is that it was just a tiny little localized flood, wildly exaggerated way out of proportion and completely misleading, then it begs the question. How much more of that book is also exaggerated, made up and misleading?


The key word in there is "IF".

All I hear is how the Bible is such a fairytale and is fabricated but no one can answer me as to how the books of the Bible were letters written by different people from different walks of life over a time period of 1600 years and on six different continents, yet each letter(book) fits together and builds upon each other in one big book. Where is the explanation for this?

I also talked about characters in the Chinese written language that reference biblical events a thousand years before the Bible was written. Not one of you can provide scientific evidence to the contrary.

However, it is your God given free will to believe what you want to as it is mine. I cannot detract your claims about evolution, well except for the whole missing link thing, and that evolution stopped with what we look like today, Why is that anyway? Why did we stop evolving from monkeys or sludge or whatever you all think we evolved from into what we are today? Where is the written evidence that one day we were something else and the next day we are what we are today?

You can ridicule me or make fun of my answers all you want to but you cannot scientifically answer my questions. Its funny how the Bible is a fairytale and yet has lasted for thousands of years. So,you cannot prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Bible is false and I cannot convince you that evolution is a lie, even though there really is no scientific evidence or written documentation that it is true so again I will just say that we have to agree to disagree.

Gaye you mentioned something about the book of Genesis saying that the waters receded and that God didn't make it magically disappear. I agree with you that the book says that the waters receded. They saw the waters recede but they don't know how the waters receded. So, why couldn't it have been God making the waters disappear and they saw it as receding?


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Ok Vance,

If you want to be taken seriously then how about providing us with some serious answers to the questions Gaye and I posed about the flood? Don't just quote scripture, do some research as well and try to give us some sort of answer other than "God did it"!

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