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Can we burn the "nice guy hat?" Snarky Duane is fun!


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Ok, if you insist. I'll toss that hat in the ring, to be played with as you all best see fit.

My only request is that you have a big party at the hat burning. smile


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Better yet, we'll have a contest with all of our pets taking turns, seeing who can destroy it most creatively. THAT'S a hilarious party in the making. Whoever has the most remote, fenced-in property gets to host... and I'm so thankful that isn't me! hehe!


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I'll warm up the popcorn machine -- this sounds like fun!

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Duane, I just told M that you and I hijacked a thread to discuss a ridiculous, hypothetical party starring a metaphorical hat. His response: "You have weird friends."

We should take that as a compliment, by the way.


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Originally Posted By: Pikasam
[As for the original comment - I'd just look surprised and say "oh no, those can't be my children. Mine are down in hell, throwing a party behind my back and sneaking tequila. They're such BRATS!!"


Ooooh, you're so cute when you're mad!

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Originally Posted By: KinderFrei
[This is what I don't get either! One of my friends has told me several times that I need to have a baby so that I will be a better person. Yet, when I ask her how that would make me better, and how that kind of better is 'better' than a million other things I could do instead, she doesn't have an answer. I'm really getting tired of this dogma from people who haven't even given it a thorough philosophical thought to see if it's actually valid. ...ok rant over smile...


I am so OVER this thing. I even just read it in an interview with a minor NZ celebrity "having kids has changed me and made me a better person". This used to really depress me when I wanted to have kids and couldn't because my circumstances weren't working out that way. I used to feel like a second class citizen who had somehow missed out on a "maturing, transforming experience".

Fast forward to feisty CF me. Of course having a kid changes you and like any challenging experience makes you a better person IF you use it that way (many people don't). Taking this scary new job has made me a better person. Heading overseas 10 years ago on my own and building a life there made me a better person. Rescuing a cat made me a better person. Surviving a divorce made me a better person. All of them have made me a more compassionate and mature and self-sacrificing person. Most of them couldn't have been done with kids.

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Fast forward to feisty CF me. Of course having a kid changes you and like any challenging experience makes you a better person IF you use it that way (many people don't). Taking this scary new job has made me a better person. Heading overseas 10 years ago on my own and building a life there made me a better person. Rescuing a cat made me a better person. Surviving a divorce made me a better person. All of them have made me a more compassionate and mature and self-sacrificing person. Most of them couldn't have been done with kids.

That is so true. I never thought about that response. There are so many things that make us a better person and you are right..a lot of those things I can't and couldn't do with kids. It angers me that I have to explan and try to make people understand why I don't want kids. I don't care what people think about me...but it is really frustrating. I use to want to explain and now I am just like "I don't and never really wanted children..I like my life the way it is". But you know it doesn't matter what you say, people form their own opinions of you...But who really gives a sh*t!!!


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Originally Posted By: Deborah49
I think it's just that the CF are free to do all sorts of things...I think that's where the selfishness/materialistic argument comes from...but how many people have a child as an "accessory"...or, without thought or planning or to manipulate someone into marriage or to make them whole...etc...
Who does more damage? The people having a child for the above reasons or the CF couple who install a temperature controlled wine room - they work and pay for?
I think the former is selfish because it involves an innocent third party...we are all free to spend our money as we choose - it's not selfish to work and save for a new TV or car...
I make no apologies for living the good life - we all make choices in life...
One of my colleagues just groans when he hears about our next trip or, he's forever complaining he'll die before he can retire/travel...(he has 5 sons)
"I've got 5 kids"...I usually respond..."well Simon, you were there when they were conceived"...He says forlornly..."I know, I know...."
We all have choices in life - you just have to take control and live the life of your choosing. It does take some strength - when I read about the pressure some people are under to have kids for a husband/wife/parents it makes me shudder - we only "go around" once...
Why would anyone allow someone else to dictate THEIR life plan?
Now...what have I done with those plans for our temperature controlled wine room?



Hear, hear!

Let us reap the rewards of our life choices in peace. I refuse to feel guilty about our life. We've worked hard and have earned it.

My friends don't usually bingo us, but I have heard regret in their voices sometimes. I've been told more than once that they envy our life.

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Duane, I just told M that you and I hijacked a thread to discuss a ridiculous, hypothetical party starring a metaphorical hat. His response: "You have weird friends."

We should take that as a compliment, by the way.


And I do. This is a good, fun, stress-relieving kind of weird. One person's idea of fun is may not be what someone else's idea of fun is.

Who cares? smile smile


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