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It's been a while since I've seen it but I didn't get that impression. His job was to make sure she quit, not to make sure she became a good navy seal. I think he was torn between training her and breaking her. I think he tried to instigate the rape scene as the final straw that broke the camel's back but it backfired because his men refused to do it. I think he was also trying to break the connection she was trying to develop with her fellow students which also backfired.
As a side note, I've haven't heard much about men being raped in war situations (although it is certainly possible) but there are always women being raped; almost incessantly.
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Are you sure? I got the impression he was treating her fairly up until then - not trying to make her quit but not making it easy on her either. And the torture of the male teammate wouldn't have to do with that ...
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I'll have to watch it again but I was pretty sure there was a conversation with a superior in which he was ordered to get rid of her by any means necessary.
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I liked the one read by Mathew in Four Weddings and a Funeral at his lover's funeral:
"He was my north, my south, my east and west, My working week and Sunday rest My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song I thought that love would last forever, I was wrong."
However, I believe that a true love never dies, it just goes to a quieter place. And, although Mathew was gay, I believe this poem could be for any relationship type.
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Walk in Peace and Harmony. Phyllis Doyle Burns Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain
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"Beowulf" is honestly one of my favourite poems of all time. Granted in Old English it's clunky to read, but Seamus Heaney's translation is remarkable. I'm considering that is more a movie based on a poem, at that.
Else, 'Funeral Blues' by Auden mentioned by Phyllis above is definitely one of my most favourite rendered poems on film. No matter how many times I watch that movie, Matthews' delivery of it reduces me to a quivering tearlump.
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I liked the one read by Mathew in Four Weddings and a Funeral at his lover's funeral Me too -- this was the first movie-poem that came to mind, in fact. Also, at least a few of Shakespeare's sonnets were read in Sense and Sensibility -- not sure which sonnets exactly, though. Not ones that I recognized (though I'm not really an expert on the Sonnets).
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I liked the one read by Mathew in Four Weddings and a Funeral at his lover's funeral Me too -- this was the first movie-poem that came to mind, in fact. Also, at least a few of Shakespeare's sonnets were read in Sense and Sensibility -- not sure which sonnets exactly, though. Not ones that I recognized (though I'm not really an expert on the Sonnets). Good one! 'Let not the marriage of true minds, admit impediment'. Love that.
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I was hoping that more of Tolkien's poetry would have made it into the LOTR movies, extended DVDs of course, where they had the room for it. But i can't really complain, the movies were so wonderful.
Doesn't Aragorn mumble a bit of verse in the FOTR?
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Oh, and Theoden has his big poetry scene as well in TT before the Battle of Helm's Deep.
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I completely agree with you regarding Tolkien. I wrinkled that Gollum's sing-songy poems were completely eradicated from the film - a real shame IMO. Hopefully they'll utilize those more in 'The Hobbit'. One can dream, anyway.
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