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Very interesting... I have the hair growth thing, on my upper lip, and I'm actually getting it lasered off. I don't think I have a deep voice, but I have always said that I should have been a man - that God changed his mind at the last minute, and slapped a pair of breasts on me.

Years ago, I spent a lot of time with a bunch of divorced 40 something women. They drove me nuts! They were so traditional and their entire lives revolved around meeting men. I just couldn't identify with them at all. And they would come to me to get the guy's perspective. Wow, I wonder if the testosterone thing is why I have NO desire to have kids. I can be nurturing at times, but it isn't my thing, typically. Although I am caring with my friends.

I am going to look this up... this actually makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for sharing.

Wow. Weird. I'm pretty feminine in voice and personality. Definitely not domineeering or aggressive in the least (could use a little more of that trait actually).

But, my index finger is shorter, and I have a lot of body hair, so it fits partly.

Hmm. I am not analytical at all. I am extremely empathetic.

I have a somewhat deeper voice than most women. My index finger is shorter than my ring finger. I have been told by male peers that I "think like a dude." I'm aggressive. I'm more analytical than empathetic. I am not a natural nurturer. I have always been "tomboyish" in my thoughts and actions. I have never wanted to be a mommy.

Based on the information at hand, I'd say I have a bit more testosterone than estrogen.

About the finger measurements: My fiance's index and ring fingers are the same length. Does that make him well-balanced?

I've got enough characteristics (including the finger length) to qualify for the higher testosterone group.

I've also noticed I tend to pick the less 'fatherly' men according to the definitions I've read. It makes sense, as I prefer a playmate over a daddy.

I wonder if cf guys tend to pick high testosterone gals?

Well, my index finger is not shorter than my ring finger, but I do have some of the traits...I am very competitive and have a little more body hair than the average female. In addition, I am told by others that my personality is more like a man rather than a woman.

Mine are about the same size...
I'm a thinker and have firm views, (that will come as no surprise!) independent and like to be in control of my life.
I have an analytical mind - I'm useless with my hands - can't do crafts, knitting, sewing etc. I was never interested in making childcare, occupational therapy or nursing my profession - I don't think I have a nurturing side. (except with cats)
I even rejected teaching...although now I'd consider teaching in senior school or University. (I've taught at University over the years)
I don't shy away from a challenge or public exposure/speaking BUT, I'm also, very happy to sit in the back row and listen...
I'm ambitious to a point...my life and health come first. (now)

I once dated (well...two dates)a man who tried to "smother" me - Can you call me when you wake up? Why?
What are you doing Friday night...Saturday...Sunday...
"No idea yet"...
He also, said "I'm studying Law so, I can provide for my future wife etc"...The word "provide" was like a red rag to a bull and I replied..."So, sounds like you're planning on marrying someone totally useless" (a bit of an over-reaction!)
Sorry?
We talked in circles - I tried to explain why I found his comment distasteful - no one would need to "provide" for me.
I would "provide" for myself... IF I marry, it will be a life partnership - companionship, emotional support...
His blank expression told me all I needed to know - I'm sure he didn't have the first idea what I was going on about...and was shocked at my response.
I'm a calmer person these days...what's the expression, "quiet in the knowledge"....
I suppose many women would have let that word pass or even been pleased to hear it...I thought it was insulting!
I decided not to see him again - he just looked bewildered and said, "is it because of the provide thing"....
I suppose there are a few "male" traits in there...

My index finger is shorter... and I've always had what I call "man hands". They're the same size as DH's and I wear a huge ringsize. I lamented this fact when I was young and wanted little, pretty hands, but now I like it because they're strong and I can pick larger things up.

I have a masculine singing voice (somewhere between alto and tenor) and have always been a tomboy - I yell at football games louder than DH. And I've always had this inner hatred of the color pink.

Other than that, I'm super-empathetic, nurturing, and have very little body hair. I'm pretty competitive, but I take A LOT of things personally, even at work.

And DH and BF say I'm the epitome of the woman driver - so I punched them both.

That is so interesting. Cleo, can you recommend some books on this subject? Or where I can find this study on-line?

The problem is that I'm NOT a tom-boy, and I'm a girly-girl and I happen to have the least amount of body hair compared to my childed sisters. I will have to check out their finger patterns pronto!

I do like to take care of the people in my life but if you analyze how I take care of them, it tends to be in pragmatic way. I don't worry about stuff, but try to find a way to fix it.

And I have to admit I don't emphathize enough. Usually I think to myself; how did this person get in this mess?

I tend to believe we are where we are in this life because of choices. Harsh, I know. I'm trying to become "softer" as I age but sometimes the inner [censored] just comes out!

So, none of the physical traits (except the finger pattern), but almost all of the "masculine" brain. You know, it explains a lot.

I do that too! I was thinking I'm SO empathetic, but you've made me realize that there is a side of me that is not so, where I lose patience with the victim mentality or continual bad choices.