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I do, but I am not upset. I know you are on the defensive with a certain regular member here at the forums. Sometimes try to re-read something to make sure you are getting the meaning, ok.


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Originally Posted By: hollyelise
But Jeanette, if you witnessed someone committing child abuse, for example, would you remain neutral and only appreciate the good?


I am delighted Jeanette has come back to you on this.
Permit me, if I may, to expand my own view further....
To witness anybody doing anything going against the unacceptable boundaries of their society, offending the morals and ethics of their own culture and breaking the Law is simply to see someone attached (to a greater or lesser degree) to their own suffering.
People act in certain ways because they are clinging to some form of misguided desire to have power and control over others. Sexual, physical, mental and psychological abuse, violence, cruelty, anger, harshness, nastiness, rudeness and bad manners are all forms of a desire to be in control. And we're all of us guilty of one or more of these characteristics at one time or another.
I'm not in any way suggesting that if we're rude to someone, it makes us a potential paedophile. But it's different levels of the same thing.
Recognising these factors as common attachments experienced by everyone, permits us to practise compassion and care for other human beings.

And whilst it is of paramount importance to stop, prevent and ultimately eliminate aspects of these behaviours, and punish, confine and possibly re-educate the 'guilty, we must never lose sight of the fact that these people are just as human as we are, and have the right to dignity, compassion and Love.
Indeed, this may be the one thing they desire and require above all others.
Without the essential, basic and fundamental qualities of Compassion and Love, we are lost, and nothing we do is of any value if these are not the basic motives that drive us to act.


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Hollyelise, I'm really happy you joined us in our discussion, but I note that up to now, you haven't responded to any comments I have returned with?
Would you care to come in and continue? I'd be pleased to know what you think so far.
Look forward to engaging with you more.

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American Heritage Dictionary (and others) defines engaging:

en�gag�ing (ĕn-gā'jĭng) adj.

Charming; attractive: an engaging smile.


How can you "look forward to ENGAGING" with a person more? I think people might have an ENGAGING (charming) conversation, since it is an adjective not a verb, but they can't look forward to engaging (attractive) more with us. wink

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Not sure if i am missing some post or mis reading some post but...

lol that has never stoped me before....

I think putting someone elses welfare above your religious beliefs is more Godly then standing by and doing nothing.
like (Yeah here i go all christian-ish lol) if someone is in need of food but its sunday and you fast on sunday and dont cook if you send them away hungry then you missed the point! if you see some one beating a elderly person and stand by and say God bless you and Ill pray for you but do nothing to stop the abuse then you are just as guilty because God put you there to see it and DO SOMETHING about it!!!!

I think that is a universal consept that people tend to take or leave when it suits there needs best... but that dont stop it from being true...

but that may be just me....

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Originally Posted By: babyquacker
American Heritage Dictionary (and others) defines engaging:

en�gag�ing (ĕn-gā'jĭng) adj.

Charming; attractive: an engaging smile.


How can you "look forward to ENGAGING" with a person more? I think people might have an ENGAGING (charming) conversation, since it is an adjective not a verb, but they can't look forward to engaging (attractive) more with us. wink

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Originally Posted By: freebubbles3
Not sure if i am missing some post or mis reading some post but...

lol that has never stoped me before....

I think putting someone elses welfare above your religious beliefs is more Godly then standing by and doing nothing.
like (Yeah here i go all christian-ish lol) if someone is in need of food but its sunday and you fast on sunday and dont cook if you send them away hungry then you missed the point! if you see some one beating a elderly person and stand by and say God bless you and Ill pray for you but do nothing to stop the abuse then you are just as guilty because God put you there to see it and DO SOMETHING about it!!!!

I think that is a universal consept that people tend to take or leave when it suits there needs best... but that dont stop it from being true...

but that may be just me....

I don't think anyone has actually implied or inferred that they would do nothing, or that nothing should be done. but it all has to be heavily underscored with a sense of compassion and love, regardless, and unconditionally.

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mmm I agree i just dont tipicly live up to that standard! I find it hard too be compassionate to people who knowingly hurt kids...or any helpless person for that matter...

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Sorry have been quiet for awhile. I had to have a procedure done at the hospital Friday and Saturday I participated in a local charity event so I have been quiet.


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