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I don't know how far along I am, but I deduce about 4 weeks. Forgive me, but I don't want this child. Forgive me again, but I'm not going to carry him/her to full term just to place him/her up for adoption. I apologize to all those who have trouble concieving and I appluad all those who are can get pregnant at the drop of a hat, but I'm not ready for another child and neither is the father.

Going to a clinic is my last resort. I know how its down and that way is appalling to me. I'd rather induce a miscarriage than go to a clinic. Though the miscarriage may be worse cause it will just be me, alone.

Is there any truth to using castor oil as a labor inducer? Does it work?


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Question here, how did you get pregnant, when you knew you didn't want to in the first place? One more, it's appalling to go to a clinic, but caster oil isn't? It's fine with me that you don't want to have your baby, but I don't get the rest?

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I am rather taken aback that you would rather force your own miscarriage then seek medical help.

I fear for your safety should you take this route. If you value your own health and life, please seek medical assistance.


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Originally Posted By: iwonder
Question here, how did you get pregnant, when you knew you didn't want to in the first place? One more, it's appalling to go to a clinic, but caster oil isn't? It's fine with me that you don't want to have your baby, but I don't get the rest?


I look at a castor oil and other methods that don't require a trip to the clinic as a natural miscarriage. You're body has taken in something that you may have drunk or eaten, and it's response is that it is an unknown threat and purges the body. It's an enema, of sorts, of the body.

Though a clinic may give you a chemical to get the purge started, they also go in and sweep out everything from the uterus. And if you're farther along...

It's an ethical-deliemma. Sorry if I confused you. To me, it seems logical.


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Originally Posted By: Lisa_Orlando
I am rather taken aback that you would rather force your own miscarriage then seek medical help.

I fear for your safety should you take this route. If you value your own health and life, please seek medical assistance.



I would love to seek medical help, but where I live, my entire family is well known. Remember how when growing up, if you did something bad at school you're mom and dad would know befor you even got off the bus? The family-friend grapevine is still strong. Soon as I go for a check-up, word will filter down and I'll be up to my armpits in [censored] off family. I avoid going to any doctor unless I'm on the verge of death.

I do value my health. With the body of a 12 yr old. oh yes, I do indeed.


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What a total cop-out....
"Oh if my body does it "naturally" that's ok...but if I get some other poor sucker to do it, it's ethically wrong!"

Guess what? However it happens, the fact that it either happens as a 'naturally-induced' termination, or a clinical one, YOU are still getting rid of YOUR baby. You're just creating yourself a smoke-screen with the ethical argument, and it doesn't wash.
Ethics is what makes you either do it, or not do it.
Not the 'how'.
I totally defend your right to termination, if this is what you have decided.
But stop with the hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted By: Alexandra
What a total cop-out....
"Oh if my body does it "naturally" that's ok...but if I get some other poor sucker to do it, it's ethically wrong!"

Guess what? However it happens, the fact that it either happens as a 'naturally-induced' termination, or a clinical one, YOU are still getting rid of YOUR baby. You're just creating yourself a smoke-screen with the ethical argument, and it doesn't wash.
Ethics is what makes you either do it, or not do it.
Not the 'how'.
I totally defend your right to termination, if this is what you have decided.
But stop with the hypocrisy.


Mmmm yep. It's not that getting "other poor sucker to do it" that I feel appalled about. It's the process. It's like when I worked for Disney. Though I loved everything about the place, I hated how things were actually run. I found alot of secrets that seriously needed to be shouted to the nearest newspaper. Getting sued isn't on my list of things for this lifetime, thanks.

And yes, however it happens, I am getting rid of this baby. I'd just prefer to try a "naturally-induced" method befor a clincal one. Call it a smoke screen, call me a hypocrit, call me a loopy nut job, but that's how I look it.


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This whole thing has turned my stomach. I really hope you can get medical help. Maybe go to another area where no one knows your family. While you are there, ask about birth control. We are in the 21st century and if you don't want to have a baby, there a many ways to avoid it! I am sorry to the other readers if I am sounding nasty, but I just don't get it!

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If you're 12 years old how about starting out with your school counselor?

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I don't think she's 12 - the language doesn't read right. I think she's just saying her body is akin to a 12 year old's.


Except...it really isn't. Even if you are very petite, it is still a mature body.

Understand that I am pro-life, so this conversation is rather diturbing to me anyway. But trying to induce your own miscarriage is dangerous and quite honestly stupid. If your community is so small that an abortion would get out - do you not think that your being rushed to the ER would not also get out? Doctors are not stupid. They would know that you had been (or still were) pregnant, and would be more than likely to deduce what you were trying to do.

Plus, there is no distinction between what your body does on its own and what the doc would do. And often times, in an incomplete miscarriage (which is what you would probably wind up with) they would have to go in and do the manual D&C just to keep you from hemmorhaging to death.

Even if you're not 12 - seek a counselor.


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I'm almost sure she's not 12 since she says she doesn't want "another child". I am glad I am not the only person disturbed by this one. I am a little afraid to ask what happened to the first child.

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This entire situation smells, literally. Forgive the pun, but omg. In a different post, of smelly's, it states that if your father found out, etc. Which does remind me of a 12 year old. Granted, you are not 12, but your decision making process may be immature? And again, exactly how did you find yourself expecting when you knew you did not want to have a child? Does it not make sense that you drive to a different location so you don't have to worry about the grape vine? You should really take a good look at the entire situation, you are a mother and why would you put yourself at risk over going to a clinic or not, I'm sure your daughter would appreciate having her mother around for a while.

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Originally Posted By: SmellyNelly
Originally Posted By: Lisa_Orlando
I am rather taken aback that you would rather force your own miscarriage then seek medical help.

I fear for your safety should you take this route. If you value your own health and life, please seek medical assistance.



I would love to seek medical help, but where I live, my entire family is well known. Remember how when growing up, if you did something bad at school you're mom and dad would know befor you even got off the bus? The family-friend grapevine is still strong. Soon as I go for a check-up, word will filter down and I'll be up to my armpits in [censored] off family. I avoid going to any doctor unless I'm on the verge of death.

I do value my health. With the body of a 12 yr old. oh yes, I do indeed.


First I think its important for you to get some kind of treatment, if you have to drive out of state to get it then do it but please don't jeopardize your life by trying to force yourself to have a miscarriage. Many women back when abortion was illegal tried this with horrible consequences. Are you anywhere near Little Rock because I am sure there has to be a place there you could go to get confidential treatment.

I know what you mean about an intrusive family, mine was the same way, they live in Texas and I now live in Orlando. I couldn't raise my daughter under the crushing weight of their scrutiny.

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I do not understand this at all. I am 17 and I am due any day now. I am a single, white female, having a biracial child with no one to turn to. I have no family except for my mother and sister. my mom was sooooooo mad at me because of the race thing, I now live in a apartment paying 25 dollars a month. I was asked in the begining of this pregnancy if I would get an abortion and I just couldn't, a life is inside of me, and she is a part of me, I asked myself what if my mom had got an abortion with me? I thank god that she didn't, you see even though this is going to be extremly hard for me I love life and I know that everything happens for a reason. GOD DOESN'T GIVE US ANYTHING WE CAN'T HANDLE!!

I ask you this....WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE THE BABY AND GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION?...WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE THE BABY A CHANCE?....WHY SHOULD THE BABY SUFFER BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT HIM/HER?....WHY NOT GIVE HIM/HER TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS A BABY MORE THAN ANYTHING?..IF YOU ALREADY HAVE KIDS WHAT IS IT GOING TO HURT TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND GIVE IT AWAY?

THOUGH YOU THINK THAT THE CLINIC WAY IS APPALLING I THINK THE MISCARRIAGE WAY IS APPALLING. TO ME GETTING PREGNANT JUST TO KILL IT IS APPALLING. JUST LIKE THE SAYING IT TAKES A BOY TO [censored] BUT A MAN TO RAISE A CHILD THE SAME GOES FOR YOU.

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Originally Posted By: whitnie89
I do not understand this at all. I am 17 and I am due any day now. I am a single, white female, having a biracial child with no one to turn to. I have no family except for my mother and sister. my mom was sooooooo mad at me because of the race thing, I now live in a apartment paying 25 dollars a month. I was asked in the begining of this pregnancy if I would get an abortion and I just couldn't, a life is inside of me, and she is a part of me, I asked myself what if my mom had got an abortion with me? I thank god that she didn't, you see even though this is going to be extremly hard for me I love life and I know that everything happens for a reason. GOD DOESN'T GIVE US ANYTHING WE CAN'T HANDLE!!

I ask you this....WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE THE BABY AND GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION?...WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE THE BABY A CHANCE?....WHY SHOULD THE BABY SUFFER BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT HIM/HER?....WHY NOT GIVE HIM/HER TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS A BABY MORE THAN ANYTHING?..IF YOU ALREADY HAVE KIDS WHAT IS IT GOING TO HURT TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND GIVE IT AWAY?

THOUGH YOU THINK THAT THE CLINIC WAY IS APPALLING I THINK THE MISCARRIAGE WAY IS APPALLING. TO ME GETTING PREGNANT JUST TO KILL IT IS APPALLING. JUST LIKE THE SAYING IT TAKES A BOY TO [censored] BUT A MAN TO RAISE A CHILD THE SAME GOES FOR YOU.


I applaud your courage Whitnie AND your love for your child. Your young but plenty of women out there became Mothers at your age, you can do this and do it well. The first thing you need, you already have and thats LOVE for your child. I think you might be surprised how your Mother might come around once you have your baby, its hard to look into the face of your grandchild and stay distant and mad, even if the baby is biracial. Your little girl will be SO pretty, your Mother won't be able to resist her, she will see things in your child, that she saw in you.
Please stay in touch and let us know how your doing. I applaud you, I honestly do for cherishing your unborn child and not taking what some call the easy way out. I was single and pregnant and I could NEVER have had an abortion. Its been hard at times but its been worth it. Never for a moment have I regretted my decision. I knew if I had an abortion it would be a tragedy that would follow me the rest of my life.
My daughter is 10 years old now and the center of my life. Her Father decided he didn't want to be involved. We have had a great life. We love it just being the girls.
Please keep in touch and let us know how you are, you might feel alone at times but your really not. Its important to remember that.

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Thank you. no one ever has anything nice to say, just hearing that from someone I have never met means so much. And knowing how good things are going for you is an inspiration and I thank you for that.

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Wow.. this topic has gotten some strong responses! There seems to be two different threads going on here. One is the expected pro-life/pro-choice debate. The other is natural vs medical management of termination. I am not going to get into the first -- others can continue to go down the road of trying to convince the poster not to terminate. . I think the original poster could have done a better job of explaining herself in the first post-- and what she is looking to do is induce miscarriage, NOT induce labor, so the heading is misleading. I am more interested in addressing her desire to deal with a termination out of a medical setting, regardless or whether one agrees with the decision to terminate at all.

Myself, I prefer natural, non-medical treatment of most situations, with caveats. Medicine certainly has it's place. But there are safe time-tested ways to manage many things with medical intervention as a backup. The important thing is to be well-informed with reliable information and to make an enlightened choice based on risks and benefits. I poked around because I found your question interesting. The only reference I could find that seemed to look reputable was at www.naturalmiscarriage.org and their subsite atBellaOnline ALERT: Raw URLs are not allowed in these forums for security reasons. Please use UBB code. If you don't know how to do UBB code just post here for help - we will help out!


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