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This may be all over the place, but I am getting sick and tired of hearing the plights of parents 'round the world. Recently, there was an article about the poverty level in good ol' Buffalo, NY. It talked about how all of these women with multiple children were having a hard time scraping by ("After Baby #1's Daddy left, and Babies #2,3, & 4 came along, and their daddy bolted, I can't afford to eat!") Well, excuse my frankness, but didn't you learn after Baby #1?? One "accident" is hard to believe, but forgivable; however, once the fourth "oops!" comes along it's kind of impossible to not realize that Mom is getting pregnant on PURPOSE!

Also, some of the realtors I work near aren't able to get into the office as much as they'd like because of the kids. They either bring them (fun for all) or [censored] about not being able to make enough money, and Katie's something-or-other costs this much, etc.

And then, I read an article about the rental crisis in certain cities, where a [censored] two-bedroom apartment costs a small fortune each month, and parents were having to live a the YMCA with their brood because they can't afford an apartment. But they had no problem popping out the kids....? And bringing them into a world where they basically are homeless? Since when are kids an entitlement for anyone? "Well, Jane, we are being evicted, my job sucks and yours isn't any better, I think it's a great time to have a baby!"????? My (rich, wonderful, kind) boss and his equally fantastic wife have been trying to adopt for YEARS--no kids so far--but Moron and Dropout can pop out six kids and my taxes are paying for their food stamps, education, subsidized housing and health care (which is better than my own insurance)?? I just don't get it.

And finally, my favorite: the summer Baby Popping Out Season has just ended, so my clients keep bringing in 6-week-old Bratley or 46-week old Snotney when it's a) naptime b) feeding time and c) somewhat inappropriate to bring a screaming infant or raging toddler into a quiet, professional setting.

Am I getting cranky in my old age, or what??

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I must say I agree with you! Basically, I think that if you can't feed 'em, then you shouldn't breed 'em. Us CF seem to get the "selfish" card played a lot by parents, but it seems to be that it's the parents/breeders that are the selfish ones but constantly telling us how hard they have it and basically playing the martyr - while us CF just sit and quietly get on with it...


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I so relate to your post, Shannon. A few years back I worked with a woman who had three kids with a husband with whom she was then separated. She kept going back to him and got pregnant AGAIN with number 4. They were not even together at that point-basically they were just having sex. She complained that he never contributed financially to the kids (hmmmm, perhaps a reason to STOP having sex with him?)and was always worried about money. The job she had offered a base salary and an opportunity for commission, which she could never earn because she was never there...she was always dealing with one kid or another. New Mexico offers all kids insurance and I remember her being afraid to make to much money because then she would have to put the kids on her insurance plan through work....She seemed so shocked when she got pregnant with number 4. Did she not understand how this works??? Obviously, she and the guy are fertile...they have already had three!!!

On the other side, I have no problem with my tax money going toward helping families who are working their butts off to make it work. I know a family where they have 10 children. I am not sure if they wanted 10 or are Catholic and don't use BC. Anyway, they are a wonderful family. How you can make 10 children all feel loved is beyond me, but they do it. The dad is the dad of only 3 of the 10 kids, and is only 27, but he treats all of those kids like gold and works like crazy to support the family. And they never complain about money at all.

I hate hate hate when people bring their kids to the workplace. Babies or older. I keep saying I am going to bring my cat. I wonder how people who are not into cats would feel about that!!

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I love the names Bratley and Snotley!


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There is also the other side of the coin. There are the ones that complain and cry about how they can't afford anything, yet they live in big homes with big TV's and drive big gas guzzling SUV's (with the DVD in the back that blinds other drivers). The kids have a [censored] load of toys and one of those fancy play things in back yard.


XQQQME? I don't get it. They can afford things. DUH! Their lives are full of things. They just need to get their priorities straight.

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I used to share office with this trainwreck mother. She did that same thing of keeping her income below a certain amount so her kid would get insurance. Plus she was always having dramas every day. She'd complain and freak out about bouncing checks all the time and overdrawing her bank account every month. Then, she'd find a way to buy her son an Xbox, waiting in line when it first came out.

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That sounds like the woman down the street. Her husband left her and their three kids. He won't get a divorce because he can't afford it, and he withdrew every penny of their savings account. She was unable to work because she had just had back surgery, and they had no money. She was telling me how they almost couldn't eat because they didn't have any money. The kids always had lots of things - dirtbikes, TV in every room, DVDs out the wazoo, etc.

She keeps telling me how they can't do anything because they have no money, blah blah blah. Now, I babysat these kids for 10 years, I know what their situation was before. When they were telling me that they couldn't afford to pay me, they would turn around and redecorate their entire house or buy a new dirtbike. And here I am not getting paid my $5 an hour. (They would pay me eventually, of course.)

Then the 11-year-old comes over yesterday. I ended up taking him to the library with me. He was telling me how he hates band, and he wants to quit (something I strongly advised him NOT to do.) He said the only reason he's staying in band is because him mom said she'd give him $20 a week to stay in band. Keep in mind, he's ELEVEN, and he already GETS an allowance.

I said something I probably shouldn't have said because I'm sure he'll repeat it to his mom - I told him that he was spoiled. I know, bad, but give me a break. I said it as a joke, but I meant it. What does an 11-year-old need with $20 a week? Oh, and he just got a new dirtbike. He was saying that his scooter is a piece of [censored] because one piece of rubber peeled off. My scooter was a wooden crate nailed to a 2X4 attached to old roller skates.

Not for the first time do I want to slap this woman upside the head. I guess she's not as poor as she claims to be AGAIN.

At least this is the first of her 3 kids who can actually read at the level of school he's in. He even recommended a book to me, and we got it at the library and I read it yesterday. I wouldn't care if it's a picture book. If it gets him more interested in reading, so be it.

Also, I felt better after seeing his brother at the library holding hands with his boyfriend. I always knew he was gay and it made me feel good to KNOW. I have absolutely no problem with it, and he was always my favorite - I guess I just feel good that I always knew. In fact, he would be the proof that homosexuality is biological, because I've known since he was about 5.

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Your friend sounds like she is lying to you. She can go down and apply for assistance and they base it on the number of children she has. Once she has that in place, the state she lives in will pursue the absent Father and EXTRACT money out of him almost to the point of pulling the gold fillings out of his mouth (OK, maybe not that bad).

You don't have to be divorced to have court ordered support. Thats a FACT. Some people LIVE to get people to feel sorry for them.

OH and for those women out there who are trying to use sex to hold on to their man, birth control is a hell of alot cheaper then a child. AND if your on welfare, the state would RATHER pay for your birth control then another child. AND please don't whine to me about not being able to remember to take your pill, they have a shot you can take once every 3 months, no excuses there.

I have ONE child, I knew I would be the only one taking care of my children, I saw how he reacted when I got pregnant the first time, I didn't do it again AND I left him because he was an [censored] hole. She is my only child because I didn't want to have to take care of more then one on my own. Taking care of one child is hard enough, I can't imagine how much harder life would be if I had 2, 3 or more children.

I think some women are stupid enough to think that popping out kids is going to make the husband dedicate himself to being a family man. How stupid do you have to be to believe that? It just makes a certain kind of man run for the door quicker.

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I agree with the sentiment here. And I'm not planning on even being CF when(and if) I get married. smile I'll never understand the notion of having kids that you can't provide for. And it's not just here, it runs rampant in third world countries. What the heck are they thinking?

The U.S. perpetuates it even more with welfare. The more kids your have, the more money you get. And often times you actually get more money than is actually needed, so that's extra spending money for you. Annoys me to know end knowing I'm supporting other people's families. I'm working for money that goes to someone else. What the heck? And don't even get me started on the fact that many of those aren't even here legally.(at least not in my part of the country)

And then there is the equations for child support. So if a father has a well-paying job, then each child is entitled to a ridiculous amount of money. For example, Elizabeth Hurley gets $25,000/mo in child support. That's insane. This kind of stuff though leads to people having more kids. Women have children with multiple fathers to capitalize on the amount of child support they can get.

I wish the government would get a clue and rework the whole welfare system. Get people back on their feet, but stop giving them handouts.


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I have said that for years!!!! pop out kid and be an instant adult even if your 11!!! pop out more and get big$$$ the stupid working middle class will pay for it and everything else you want big house new car and your food!!! then you get to B!@T# at how hard life is to the point people would rather kill your sorry a$$ then talk to you but they wont because your a mommie and they dont want Bratley and Snotley!!!

yeah I love those names!!!

but just a side note if you have the kids your get big$$$ plus goverment help plus a big tax return!!! but if you foster the kids that someone else dicided they didnt want or abused them and the law takes them away for said breeder then you may get lucky to get like $30 from the goverment a month to help raise the kid!!!

$#!TY aint it?!

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