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We are trying to get something positive from Unlimited Power.
we want to change our life with help of that book.
The change may be small, but we want to do that.
If during that positive effort, some people come in and say that he is all wrong and so on, at least I am not interested in listening to that.

For these people I am beginning this new thread so that they can pour all negatives here.
I will be ignoring every member who posts negatives in the thread by holly.

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I am bumping up this thread so that MettaMaid and anyone else who wishes to criticize Personal Power by Anthony Robbins see that there is already a place for them to express their opinions.

Enjoy!

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I must be behind the times Holly!

Can you tell me a bit about what Anthony robbins says? (I confess I have not read right back on all the threads since I returned!)

Kerryanne.

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Kerryanne, it would be very difficult to summarize what Robbins says. You will have to either read his books or read the posts again.

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Kerryane,

this thread is for those who enjoy thrashing Robbins. Let them come here and do that as much as they want. I think that you do not belong to that group. You shift to other threads to learn what Robbins says.

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I have not "thrashed" Robbins.
I have not "thrashed" anyone reading his book.
I have not been rude, insulting or defamatory about anyone or anything anyone has said or commented on.
Why then is it taboo to have such opinions?
Why can't a different point of view be expressed without it being taken as a personal affront or insult?
What is wrong with presenting a different point of view?
I expressed an opinion, and explained it.
Simply because someone is reading a book anbd enjoying it, it doesn't mean everyone else must obviously or necessarily be of the same opinion.

What has happened to the great gift of freedom of speech here?
Why do so many people believe that to express dissent is to express an insult?

Could someone please help me understand?


"Things are not what they seem.... Nor are they otherwise...." (Lankavatara Sutta)

"The purpose of Life is simply, to be happy, and to make others happy." HH the Dalai Lama.



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You have great freedom to express all negative opinions about his book here. In the other thread we are discussing what best we can get from his books.

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But why do you call it 'Negative'?
What is negative about expressing a different opinion?


"Things are not what they seem.... Nor are they otherwise...." (Lankavatara Sutta)

"The purpose of Life is simply, to be happy, and to make others happy." HH the Dalai Lama.



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Are you supporting him?
Have you read his books?
Which of them?

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It's not a question of support. it was a question of pointing something out that perhaps had not been considered by others. I have nothing against Mr. Robbins, and I learnt a great deal by reading several on-line reviews, and the comments and quotations pasted by Hollyelise. There were already some of these quotations i did not entirely agree with, but this has got nothing to do with support or approval.
It's just opinion.

isn't that permitted?

For example, Holly said this:

Originally Posted By: Hollyelise
"What did you think of that last quotation, about there being a price for every goal, and that we can't reach the goal if we aren't willing to pay the price?"
(My italics)

This is not exactly what the original quotation is saying. It's not that you CAN'T reach your goals if you don't, it's that if you do not consider the "price to be paid", your goals may not be as rewarding as they first seemed....
here it is again. I have underlined the pertinent apposite phrase....

"Bunker Hunt, the Texas oil billionaire, was asked once if he had any piece of advice he could give people on how to succeed. He said that success is simple. First, you decide what you want specifically; and second, you decide you're willing to pay the price to make it happen---and then pay that price. If you don't take that second step, you'll never have what you want in the long term. I like to call the people who know what they want and are willing to pay the price to get it "the few who do" versus "the many who talk." I challenge you to play with this material, to read it all, to share what you learn, and to enjoy it."

What he means is that, if you don't realise you have to pay the price, the goal you achieve will be short-term, because once you see what price you have to pay you might then change your mind.

When some see just what sacrifices are necessary to achieve a goal, they either change their goals, or do not rejoice in their achievements.
This is Karma in action.

I said in my first post that this book seems like anchient teachings re-cycled, and this explains my point.

Do you see what I mean?


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"Things are not what they seem.... Nor are they otherwise...." (Lankavatara Sutta)

"The purpose of Life is simply, to be happy, and to make others happy." HH the Dalai Lama.



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