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Those are all interesting quotes, and even if the founding fathers were religious, they founded the US on the principles of freedom. We should all have the freedom to practice (or not) the religion of our choice and not have those personal choices dictated to us by government.

Would you give money to the local Wicca church? Or the local Mosque? Probably not, and that's your right. I don't want my tax dollars going to promote/support/share any religion.

I'm still so happy to have someone in government trying to do what's best for all citizens, not what's best for his religion.

No I wouldn't give money to them because I do not believe in their religions and by giving money to them, then I would be supporting their stuff.

Your tax dollars do not go to support religions, they go to the national and local governments.

"Your tax dollars do not go to support religions, they go to the national and local governments."

Well w/Bush's Faith Based Initiative and the presence of religious symbols and principles in government I'd say you're not entirely correct.

Tax dollars under Bush Boy go to 'faith based' organizations. His words.

Yeah, and as amadeus1220 says, "No I wouldn't give money to them because I do not believe in their religions and by giving money to them, then I would be supporting their stuff."

I'm not against religion - I'm against religion in government. Bush is one of the worst things that's ever happened to this country.

This is not at all common knowledge. Lets use the former Soviet Union as an example shall we. While it was officially a secular state over 1/3 of its population is reported to be Christian. (have you ever heard of the Russian Orthodox church). The fact that it was a secular state is one of the few positives of the Soviet Union. The fact that it was a dictatorship and a closed society are 2 of the negatives. Neither being secular or a dictatorship has anything to with communism. I don't think you really know what communism is. This is not at all a defence of the Soviet Union. Though many aspects of communism could be considered good(ie universal health care). I assure you I am not a communist and this is not the place for that debate.

If you were taught this then I am very happy to have been educated in Canada because this is obviously evidence of brainwashing in American schools. Where the hell is your Bologna Detection Kit?

I agree however that God does not answer prayers. If we both had equally sick children; you can stay home a pray for yours, I am going to take mine to the hospital.

Isn't it funny that the opposition in this discussion to a nontheist in government is just because he's a nontheist? amadeus1220 hasn't even commented on or inquired about the congressman's qualifications, policies, etc. He's just hell bent on establishing that the US was founded on religious principles and doesn't appear to consider the person in question.

Ummmm....you started the post with 'Finally a nontheist in government' and I was responding to that. Not once in that post did you say 'Finally someone with a strong political background in the government' or start out with anything about his qualifications.

However, if you did a little searching on my post responses, you would have found this:

It doesn't really matter what their race, color, creed or religion is. You should not vote based on that stuff. You should vote because the candidate is interested in the same problems that you are and the electee seems like a good, qualified choice for government.

If they happen to be a Christian then that is a bonus.

I posted that in the Faith and Good Works thread just this morning.

Plus no where in that link that was provided, mentions anything about his qualifications either except that hes been there since 73 and is Chairman of the Ways and Means committees.

You want me to comment on someone's qualifications then you should do the same and provide those qualifications.

Don't say Finally a nontheist in government and then chastise me for responding to that statement.

Point taken amadeus1220. I got involved in the discussion and forgot about the post title! I just found it curious.

And, no, I didn't go research all your posts silly : )

Thank you. And, yes, I guess that research remark was kind of silly so I apologize for that. I, too, just got caught up in the moment.