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At least amadeus apologized. Let us appreciate that. I do not expect any apology or change in Texas dave.
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Well, I think it's good that he apologised, for whatever reason, and it takes courage to do so, if an apology is warranted.
but an apology only holds as good, if the "offender" then desists from repeating the 'offence' and decides to change their ways.
I live in hope.
Not that I want him to change his faith, belief or stance. Not at all.
"A man convinced against his Will, is of the same opinion still."
I'd just like him to be a bit more receptive to those of others, that's all.
I'm not asking that others change course, but that they understand that the opinions of others may take them down different paths, that those paths should be respected as valid for those people, and that they are worth exploring, eeven if only for a quiet afternoon stroll off the beaten track - !
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And nobody has responded to this little conundrum, either.... I don't demand conversion. I offer to introduce you to Christ. Free will shall not be violated. If God will not then I certainly will not. Well, there's the rub...I'm a bit (genuinely and sincerely) confused about this 'Free Will' bit... Please give me an understandable take on this.... Many Christians have expressed the magnanimous gesture on God's part, in giving Mankind 'Free Will' But then I read all kinds of posts ststing that if I am a just and virtuous person, and follow Christ as my saviour because 'no-one comes to the father except by me' then, in fact what I am doing is what I am told...essentially, I am doing god a favour by doing his will, not mine.... Alternatively, it has been suggested that I have satan whispering in my ear, tempting me and keeping me away from Christ............so essentially, what I am doing, is complying with the will of Evil.... So either way, I am bowing to the will of someone else.... I HAVE free will....but I am both impressionable and temptable...I must either go one way (God's) because if I don't, I'm going the other way (satan's....) Where does my own free will come in? What happens if I chose (as I have done) to do neither?
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So basically, "I give you free will, but it's my way or the highway..."
is that it?
"I give you free will, but if you don't come on my side, you're out of the ball game."
What kind of a choice is that?
That's no choice at all, and makes a mockery of free will, and if I may say so, the bountiful, unconditional God of Love.
You can't give people a free choice, but then prejudice it by applying the thumb to the scale.
That's a human interpretation, not a Godly one.
I'll take my chances, thanks.
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So basically, "I give you free will, but it's my way or the highway..."
is that it?
"I give you free will, but if you don't come on my side, you're out of the ball game."
What kind of a choice is that?
That's no choice at all, and makes a mockery of free will, and if I may say so, the bountiful, unconditional God of Love.
You can't give people a free choice, but then prejudice it by applying the thumb to the scale.
That's a human interpretation, not a Godly one.
I'll take my chances, thanks.
Did he ever speak of free will?
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well, my Christian friends here on forum keep telling me he did....
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I find no evidence that he ever spoke about free will. He says - either this or that.
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Well in that case, that's even more unfair.
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Wolf
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That is his way of thinking.
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Hey texasdave, what doe that mean "Roe v Wade lied"? What was the lie? Or did you just need a rhyme?
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