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In India there is one temple where non hindus are not allowed. Even Mrs. Gandhi was not allowed when she was the PM of India. Does that attract any violation of human rights?

All over the world, there remain places where people for various reason, race, sex, religion, color or creed, are not admitted. Is elitism and exclusivity in and of itself a violation of Human RIghts?

Not exactly. Even in America there exist private clubs where only members are allowed. Ostracism in such clubs might be based on financial history, or any of the above mentioned reasons but are not violations of the basic rights of human beings, which include freedom from tyranny and oppression and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want. The entirety of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights itself can be found here:

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All right, is this ethical?

If someone truly believes that an outside presence will "contaminate" their holy place, is it eithical for the outsider to go there just because they can?

If we were more considerate of other people, I belive we'd have more peace.

I think it is very reasonable for any religious or spiritual group to have times and/or places where only believers are allowed. The same goes for men only or women only events. The problem is when non-group business is decided during those times and places. For instance, deciding the candidates for the next election during one of those closed events would be wrong.

Julie

I agree with you.

The problem is when non-group business is decided during those times and places.
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Yes, often people in power use their position to make decisions behind closed doors in smoke-filled rooms, and then the rest of us have to live with whatever they decide. I like it much better when I'm the one who gets to make the decisions. Then I know it's right

That does not happen in temples in India. so no worry.
You know in India, their is no single religious authority for Hindus. Everyone of us have our own path and no body bothers about what others do. hinduism has no strict rules. Read whatever you want. go to the temple you like of any deity and you are still a Hindu. No single book, so again no problem.

Can we please get you to go talk to the Muslim religious authorities and see if they may choose to follow your way? Especially since they don't consider you the enemy, like they do the rest of us, and they may actually talk to you? LOL!!!

Why hasn't somebody already thought to do this? If we keep talking on these furums, we will solve all the world's problems.

Muslims consider Hindus as enemies. Equally as christians. India was partioned on religious grounds.

Many religious traditions have some sort of "restriction." I would never EXPECT to enter someplace or do something just because I wanted to even if it was against a particular faith's beliefs. This is the height of hubris and self-centeredness.

In India we have a small population of Parsis who came to India from Iran 1200 years back. they allow no other person to enter their temple. We all respect that.

That's funny. How far can you follow your own path before you get in trouble? Intermarriage? Gay? Criminal ctivity?

What kind of trouble can you get in? Eternal suffering?

I didn't see the new posts on the second page. In my last post I was responding to: "Muslims consider Hindus as enemies. Equally as christians. India was partioned on religious grounds."


"I would never EXPECT to enter someplace or do something just because I wanted to even if it was against a particular faith's beliefs. This is the height of hubris and self-centeredness."

Unfortunately, there are plenty of official delegates of all kinds (from all sides) who insist on doing just that, going to places at the worst time just because they can with no regard for local opinion. That's unfortunate, because by the time I want to go there as an American, the locals already hate ALL Americans.

In India, we have no hatred for Americans. we love them.

I think there are other times when it is inappropriate: when everyone's tax money is funding a facility where the group is permitted to meet rent-free; when the meeting takes place in a public place that heretofor belonged to everybody; if the group itself is receiving taxpayer funding; and if they are doing so during a time that they are paid by taxpayer money (such as elected officials holding such a meeting during working hours) to be about the business of the taxpayers.

What if they are not being funded by tax payers?

Oh really? I guess you meant Zoroastrian Persian. I heard about them but why they attribute such act?!
We have some Atashkadeh (Zoroastrian temple) here; I have seen some of them.

About the title I should tell you:
In here we have some Mosques that non-Muslim don't permitted to entrance, because think they are unclean.
And in Saudi I heard that non-Muslim banned to enter city of Mecca.

Yes, Zoroastrian Persians.

Cdmohatta
how many Parsis you have there?
which part of India they more existed?

About 100,000
Most are in Mumbai and around.

If you enter into anyplace with automatic assumptions, expect those assumptions to be met. I do not in any mindset believe that there is a single country where /every/ citizen in that country hates Americans.

Is there anti-american sentiment? Certainly. But I always err in my faith in an individuals understanding of love and wisdom rather than his prejudice.

Or?

See my signature.

Pakistan is one such country. Most of the population Americans.