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She hasn't presented anything worth commenting on yet.

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Originally Posted By: lovelove
She hasn't presented anything worth commenting on yet.

Hey lovelove, you never do anything but write the odd sentence or two demanding evidence or complaining nobody else has made a point. I have yet to see you make a point about anything.

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Alexandra, I haven't really seen anything logical and facual and all the other word that you have used by an atheist. Please notice that I am not saying that all atheist are illogical but I haven't seen a good argument that actually is logical and can convince someone. Furthermore you have said this a couple of times (maybe in different wordings but the same thing) about Christians and claiming that this is their way of thinking

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you may have your opinion, but you are wrong, because i know the Truth, and any amount of logical, straightfoward, factual and sensibly based discussion will not deter me from continuing to say - without foundation, proof or expansion - that you should all see things my way. Because I sure heck as won't give an inch to permit me to accept any part of your way of thinking, no matter how logical you may be.


But yet that is all you do. You don't give us a reasonable, logical, factual things to believe but you fault us for doing that. Does anything that you have said imply to you? Aren't you doing the very same thing that you are saying that we doing? I think you are. So either give us a good " logical, straightfoward, factual" argument or don't use those word for describing something you are not doing.

I wanted to write that because I thought it was quite important and neccerary to point out.

By the way Skeptic, don't you worry. I am writting an arguement for God's existence and a theistic worldview and that is exactly why I haven't had the pleasure of arguing and commenting on the things you have said but once I finish my arguement, I'll definitely come back to a couple of things that you have said because I find them really interesting. And if you found my argument for Morality offencive, I would like to say sorry. That was not my intention at all. But I am going to add alittle about that with my arguement for a theistic worldview.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
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God loves you,
Good point. Well said.

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Originally Posted By: God_Loves_You


But yet that is all you do. You don't give us a reasonable, logical, factual things to believe but you fault us for doing that. Does anything that you have said imply to you? Aren't you doing the very same thing that you are saying that we doing? I think you are. So either give us a good " logical, straightfoward, factual" argument or don't use those word for describing something you are not doing.


But Buddhism doesn't deal with beliefs. it's never a case of "read, listen, see, have faith and believe".
Everything we deal with is logical, factual, existent and exhaustively examined by the individual until we divest it of all extraneous, superfluous trappings and arrive at a Truth we can personally accept unequivocably.

What argument are you talking about then? What specific would you like me to clarify?

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Hi, Jenna, this is slightly off topic.
Somebody asked me that when believers face problems, they blame god. Who will an atheist blame?

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circumstances, others, and more rarely, themselves.

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Originally Posted By: cdmohatta
Hi, Jenna, this is slightly off topic.
Somebody asked me that when believers face problems, they blame god. Who will an atheist blame?

I know I am not Jenna but allow me please.
I don't find a need to assess blame for things out of my control. I would blame a person or an institution if they wronged me. But I would not assess blame because I got a disease unless of course it was caused by environmental conditions that were caused by say a company.
I find the fact as you state that believers blame God to be rather ridiculous anyway because if God is almighty and has a plan and requires your worship then assessing blame would only anger him would it not. I think that if there was a God and that he gave us free will, he likely allows chance to exist in the universe so when something happens to you assessing blame is a waste of time.

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Originally Posted By: cdmohatta
Hi, Jenna, this is slightly off topic.
Somebody asked me that when believers face problems, they blame god. Who will an atheist blame?

I know I am not Jenna but allow me please.
I don't find a need to assess blame for things out of my control. I would blame a person or an institution if they wronged me. But I would not assess blame because I got a disease unless of course it was caused by environmental conditions that were caused by say a company.
I find the fact as you state that believers blame God to be rather ridiculous anyway because if God is almighty and has a plan and requires your worship then assessing blame would only anger him would it not. I think that if there was a God and that he gave us free will, he likely allows chance to exist in the universe so when something happens to you assessing blame is a waste of time.


All the surveys indiacate that once a person is diagnosed with a terminal disease, the first reaction is disbelief. The second is why me? And the third is blaming God.

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Originally Posted By: cdmohatta
All the surveys indiacate that once a person is diagnosed with a terminal disease, the first reaction is disbelief. The second is why me? And the third is blaming God.

Well then I guess the problem lies with the believers assessing blame. As an atheists though I don't have that luxury. One of the benefits for theists is they always have someone who is responsible whether it is good or bad. But I think we all no God is far to busy picking out the Grammy winners to be concerned with such things.

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