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>JOHN GLENN SAID
>
>Things that make you think a little:
>
>There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
>In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the
>month of January. That's just one American city,
>about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .
>
>When some claim that President Bush shouldn't
>have started this war, state the following:
>
>a. FDR led us into World War II.
>
>b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...
>an average of 112,500 per year.
>
>c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea
>North Korea never attacked us .
>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...
>an average of 18,334 per year.
>
>d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
>Vietnam never attacked us
>
>e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost .
>an average of 5,800 per year.
>
>f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
>Bosnia never attacked us .
>He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
>times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
>multiple occasions.
>
>g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush
>has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
>al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North
>Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
>slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
>
>The Democrats are complaining
>about how long the war is taking.
>But
>It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno
>to take the Branch Davidian comp ound.
>That was a 51-day operation.
>
>We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
>in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
>the Rose Law Firm billing records.
>
>It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the
>Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard
>than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his
>Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
>
>It took less time to take Iraq than it took
>to count the votes in Florida !!!!
>
>Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!
>The Military morale is high!
>
>The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
>to realize the facts
>
>But Wait .
>There's more!
>
>JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)
>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
>
>Some people still don't understand why military personnel
>do what they do for a living. This exchange between
>Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum
>is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive
>impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one
>man's explanation of why men and women in the armed
>services do what they do for a living.
>
>This IS a typical, though sad, example of what
>some who have never served think of the military.
>
>Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
>"How can you run for Senate
>when you've never held a real job?" < BR>
>Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
>"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.
>I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.
>My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different
>occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my
>checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was
>not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the
>daily cash receipts to the bank."
>
>"I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day...
>to a veteran's hospital and look those men ..
>with their mangled bodies in the eye, and tell THEM
>they didn't hold a job!
>
>You go with me to the Space Program at NASA
>and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans
>of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...
>and you look those kids in the eye and tell them
>that their DADS didn't hold a job.
>
>You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
>Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends
>buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch
>those waving flags.
>
>You stand there, and you think about this nation,
>and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
>
>What about you?"
>
>For those who don't remember ..
>During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney
>representing the Communist Party in the USA
>
>Now he's a Senator!
>
>If you can read this, thank a teacher.
>If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.

Ummmmm, when did we take Iraq?? Was it when GB got dressed up in his pilot suit and had his photo op where he said, "Mission accomplished?"

Just wondering........

Wow! THANKS, Tina, that is a GREAT reminder of how relative things really are. John Glenn is truly a great man, one that ALL of us have watched since we were children! It sure does make some excellent points! I hope more Americans are keeping all of this in perspective and still waving flags and saying "God Bless America" and "God Bless All our Troups!" <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Trish

Thanks!

Quite, PondLady...

I would urge all Americans to think very carefully before voting today.... suffice to say that America has often referred to itself as the Police of the World....
I personally would not like another second with you governed by your current "Commissioner"....Remember, whatever you condemn yourselves to, you condemn the World to more of the same....

Alexandra, voting today is not for "commmissioner", we don't have those at Federal levels. As a matter of fact, we are not holding federal elections today at all. They are elections at local and state levels.

Neither America nor Americans believe we are Police of the world. We are so fortunate to be a great country that holds justice and freedom as the greatest liberties of all. That is why WE help those that are less fortunate and need help.

Trish

The US is voting for local representatives in Federal government. The offices are federal offices as defined in the Constitution. They also represent the balance of our government, a counter to the executive power of the President and that of the Supreme Court. Without those Representative and Senator, the citizenry has no role in the day-to-day decisions of the nation, and could only affect what was done once every four years. The state elections are where you vote for your local representative in your state legislature.

If we truly do hold justice and freedom very high, we should be correcting the ease with which we can be prevented from voting or have out vote changed. See this website for a list of the ways this has been done, almost exclusively in ways that benefit Republican candidates, just in the past few days.

http://www.votersunite.org/electionprobl...lectproblemtype

And we should be impeaching and otherwise prosecuting those responsible for such actions.

DJC in Norwich, UK

Yes, Donna, we are having STATE elections today. As I was saying to Alexandra, we are not voting for commissioner, or President. As far as having voting problems, there have not been enough in this state to make a difference. I don't know where you are getting your information, unless it is from the media, which has been blowing things out of proportion even here!

Trish

Trish,

I cited the website that is my source. I think it gives the sources from which it gathers information.

I disagree with you about whether they are state or federal elections. Exactly which elections, would you say, are Federal elections? If you say the ones in which we vote for President, then you are being illogical, saying that every other two years, Senators and Representatives are voted on in State elections, and every other two years, Senators and Representatives are voted on in Federal elections.

DJC in Norwich, UK

Donna, what I am saying is that in our state, we are holding "Guberatorial General Elections", where we choose our governor and our state senator and represenative, as well as a U.S.Senator and 3 Delegates for the House of Representatives. In 2 years, we will have a federal election where we WILL elect president and representatives, as they only serve 2 years. Senators serve for 6 years and our state senator serves our state legislature, first.

Trish

hmmm. . . Hmmmm . . . Hmmm.

So nothing has ever changed. Children playing their war games using the wrongs of others to justify their misdeeds. I love every solider fighting this war and my heart goes out to them. That doesn't make ANY war right ever. Anyone who tells you there is only one way to do something is a fool. Everyone needs to say no.

John Glenn is a GREAT AMERICAN. I'd like to see him run for the top spot.