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I have no problem being impolite and I do not suffer fools. Jordan13, go back to your cave. We have no tolerance for you. Go matchmake or whatever it is you do.
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The authority of us being human beings, who can observe that children are not capable of understanding sex. And that, to put it in this way because I'm in a hurry to get somewhere- you don't enter into any kind of arrangement with someone unable to understand the full impact of it. That's the same thing as force, and I've given my reasons for not believing in force.
I would elaborate, but I have to visit someone. What makes it WRONG?! You still haven't said why child-rape is WRONG, IMMORAL, EVIL. Where did this concept come from? He's just dirt in the ground, so why should he deny pleasure? Why would an athiest who doesn't believe in a spiritual creator-force, care about right vs wrong? They would only care that society might kill him for doing it.
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I have no problem being impolite and I do not suffer fools. Jordan13, go back to your cave. We have no tolerance for you. Why resort to insults? Are my ideas too difficult to debate? Hey, to be honest, I don't expect to be able to convince most of you. After all, if one could just prove good vs evil to everyone, then evil has lost the battle. The whole point is that evil is able to confuse and mislead. Hate is not the opposite of Love, Apathy is. In the same way religions of hate are not the opposite of religions of love, athiesm is.
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So you think people just follow society's laws EVEN WHEN SOCIETY ISN'T LOOKING?!
Of course they are going to follow society's rules when society is watching. But if they have no MORAL compass or they deny their spiritual conscience, there is nothing to stop them from doing it, if they think they can get away with it!
Gee, I didn't know Bushie had a camera installed in my house already. The microphone or wiretap maybe, but not the camera to check and make sure I'm following the law. That's why I started off easy. Good thing I didn't say that I could actually read the psychiatric journals that prove things like child molestation are harmful and make a decision based on factual information.
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Jordan13, you must like being insulted. You keep coming back for more. Your ideas do not even qualify as such. You are parroting some words that you picked up along the way and have no idea what they mean.
You expect to not convince any of us. For the first time you are right.
And re apathy v love, you are now repeating yourself. Must be all that activity with all those women that you can have whenever you want. I thought if I repeated that, you might get it the second time around. Do they insult you as well? Must be why you are so attractive? Admit it Jordan13, you do like being abused! There are thousands like you....go find them and play there.
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That's why I started off easy. Good thing I didn't say that I could actually read the psychiatric journals that prove things like child molestation are harmful and make a decision based on factual information.
Why is an athiest obligated to care about other human beings? If there's no spiritual force connecting us, there's no reason. Why wouldn't athiests embrace a heDONistic world view? They usually do. "if it feels good, do it" type thing. It's odd to be arguing with athiests about whether or not they can believe in a good vs evil. Let's just keep it simple, and ask: Athiests: sound off, do you believe in good vs evil?
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Jordy, please learn to spell! Or is henodistic a word you just made up?
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Everybody here has their own opinions and ideas on his subject and now some people are going over the same c-r-a-p over and over again. It is getting boring...
Why cant we all agree to disagree.If anybody has entered into this debate wih the intention of changing someones mind it is not only an insult - it just wont work.
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Everybody here has their own opinions and ideas on his subject and now some people are going over the same c-r-a-p over and over again. It is getting boring...
Why cant we all agree to disagree.If anybody has entered into this debate wih the intention of changing someones mind it is not only an insult - it just wont work. Agreed. If you could prove there is a god, and good, then evil loses. But you can't blame us for trying. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It's really up to the person to decide. I'm sorry for getting so aggressive with my speech, and I hope everyone accepts my apology.
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Round and round and round she goes... Deary, it would be nice if you actually had any ideas. You pull your "ideas" out of thin air, and as far as I'm concerned you haven't said one single thing that even makes sense. You refuse to address anybody's objections to your statements except by repeating yourself, throwing in a complete non sequitor or another distortion of what they said, and then arguing against it. Basically, you're just arguing against yourself.
And I'm curious. You said you're not a christian, then why do you list a site for christians in your sig? Again, I have to wonder--are you a liar or a hypocrite?
Why resort to insults? Because we haven't found any other way to penetrate that little brain. And we might as well get some fun out it as long as you insist on hanging around. Why do you stay around to be insulted?
And you're the last person in the world to claim any right to use the word intellectual. Get over yourself.
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