alot of people who do have kids do appear run down, i think that is obvious by the posts in this thread, but alot of people who have children still look very youthful, even though we may not feel it, (myself included) i have a child and i still get carded for cigarettes, R-rated movies, alcohol ect, and i seem to be stuck in the age range of 17 to 20, even though i'm 27 almost 28.