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Originally posted by Menopause&HolisticHlth Host:
[qb] Forgot to mention the soy/Alzheimer's comment. Don't know where you got the information about that link, but the latest on that topic shows soy protects vs. Alzheimer's, while it is high fat diet that is linked with AD.[/qb]
I worked for biotech companies for 10 years so I am always very keen on following and understanding medical research. My boyfriend is very interested in Alzheimer's so it's a topic I follow quite avidly. I also have been interested in Feudal Japan since I was tiny so I have done years and years of research on the Japanese and Chinese cultures. Just to give you some background.

The quotes you gave were about "hints" and "theoretical" so while they're nice, they're not substantive. Here are my links on the topic -

http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/5589.asp

The studies that *have* been done have proven that overweight people have a higher chance of Alzheimer's. So that's proven already. That was the "hinting" that you mentioned in your quote about the link between sugar and Alzheimer's. It's not the sugar or lack of sugar. It's the overweight state, however they got there.

Another study proved that eating fish weekly reduces the chance of Alzheimer's. Since oriental people eat more fish than we tend to in western nations, that accounts for a lot of the difference in our Alzheimers' rates. The healthy fats in the fish are what give you the benefit.

As a side note, healthy fats are critical to your brain's health in general. Your brain is mostly (70%) fat and needs those fats to maintain itself. So I disagree strongly with your comment about fats *causing* Alzheimer's. All studies I have read say that fats cause a 60+% *reduction* in Alzheimer's.

My links to the connections between soy consumption and Alzheimer's are here -

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art14830.asp

To start - "Dr. Lon White of Hawaii was interested in how tofu eating affected the men in his area. He traced a group of men from 1965 to 1993. Dr. White found 'a significant link between tofu consumption during midlife and loss of mental ability and even loss of brain weight.'"


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hi everyone,

most "studies", whose results are likely to change human behavior patterns, especially when there are financial implications, can be tossed in the circular file. their results are pre-ordained, based upon the group that is funding it. do you think the soy industry is gonna find a study that says that soy is bad ? or do you think that the meat industry is gonna find a study that says that soy is good ? why is it that studies funded by groups always bear results that benefit that group ? LOL.

we do not know how much soy was fed these rats, at least from the article that was given. nor do we know much about the rest of the diets of these people. nor do we know the amount of processed foods these people were eating.

here is what i do know, for 100% surety. i have never eaten tofu, but i do eat 50-75 grams of soy protein a day, along with safflower and soy oils for my omega6 intake. after meeting my protein and essential fat requirements, i fill out the rest of my diet with good natural carbs.

i am turning 50 later this year, look much younger, and can last as long or longer than at any other time in my life. i must be doing something correctly. this is evidence that i do not have to read about, guess about, or anything else about, for i am experiencing it.

i can't remember how many things have changed over time. like the article mentioned, i can recall when it was written in stone that we could not replace our brain cells. now that we have become smarter, we learn that we can. or the non-fat diet was so good. or the ridiculously-low-carb diet is good. i am getting tired of all the commercials touting their low-carb foods - i can not figure out how people can be so dumb as not to see the correlation. people who want your money will try to convince you that the sun won't rise.

think of your body as a machine that needs particular raw materials so that it can perform the functions that it was designed to perform. the supermarket and restaurant are poor choices with which to look for these raw materials. the goals of these places is to make money, not to establish good health in us.

best of health to all.

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