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Freedom of speech hasbeen curtailed throughout the Eu, just ask Bridget Bardot. Try to say something bad about the EU in any of the countries that belong to it and you may wind up in jail. Many forms of speech are banned in Germany and France. In other EU countries certain forms of speech are forbidden. LOL <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

nope, Bob S., nope. We have lost our freedom of speech. Not France.

An article appearing in the Paris newspaper Le Figaro reported that a rap group called Minist�re amer (Bitter Ministry) is urging its fans to kill policemen. One of their lyrics says: "There will be no peace unless the [police] rest in peace." "On our record," declared the spokesman of the group, "we tell them to burn down the police station and sacrifice the [police]. What could be more normal?" No action has been taken against the rap group.

get with the program and get current. Bardot is ancient.

Here is the weather forecast for Ashkhabad - the capital city of Turkmenistan (Turkmenia). We think of Ashkhabad as being southerly, but even they can have a taste of winter down south! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

25 January: Rain, +3�C (+37�F)
26 January: Snow, -2�C (+28�F)
27 January: Sunny, -1�C (+30�F)
28 January: Partly cloudy, +2�C (+35�F)
29 January: Showers, +5�C (+41�F)
30 January: Rain, +8�C (+46�F)
31 January: Rain, +13�C (+55�F)

Source: http://meteo.infospace.ru/win/cities_sng/html/r_index.ssi

I've read Urban's magazine a few times when I've been in Poland - quite amusing. he's a bit of a dickhead but that's not something he should be punished for.

so he made fun of the pope - big deal. it seems that in Poland there's freedom of speech unless you're criticising the church. I can't imagine anyone being prosecuted in this way in the UK, and as the article says it's against the EU's guarantees of freedom of expression that Poland signed up to when it joined the EU.

very silly....

I'm surprised they didn't detain him in guantanamo bay for such a treasonous act....

btw - have presidential assassinations gone out of fashion in the land of the trigger happy fat people? <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

normally you can count on at least one assassination attempt per decade - but nobody's tried to shoot the prez for 20 years now!

(hint)

Mason,

there is a difference betweeen a critique and vulgarity and obscenity.
Urban's newspaper is low, very low, it appease the lowest instincts of the people. It is a mixture of sex and critique of everything which is not connected with hist communistic party. He is an ex-communist.

So, his article about the pope was very low. It was published just before the pope's pilgrimage to Poland. The title of the article was :
"Mobil Sado-macho" - from the text of the article it is clear that this "mobil sado-macho" is the pope.

He called the pope "Brezniev's of Vatican" and the "ancient god". So this was not a critique, but many vulgarisms and disrespect towards the pope.

I wonder whether the EU would react similarly if somebody would be critize because of its critique of gays? It seems that the critique of the church according to EU is OK but the critique of gays is inmoral!

Here is the article of Urban in Polish, please read it if you can:
http://www.nie.com.pl/main.php?dzial=akt&id=719

and see the pictures

Jaga. If anyone in the EU critizes gays, Arabs or Moslems they will be in deep trouble. That type of speech is politically incorrect according to the EU. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

More translation:

***Dziadunio Karol Wojty&#322;a na&#322;ogowo spala mn�stwo benzyny lotniczej, &#380;eby w r�&#380;nych krajach mamrota&#263; o mi&#322;o&#347;ci bli&#378;niego, demonstrowa&#263; za&#347; mi&#322;o&#347;&#263; w&#322;asn&#261;. Zaspokajaj&#261; j&#261; ho&#322;dy milion�w ju&#380; teraz pochlebczo wyolbrzymianych przez polsk&#261; pras&#281;.***

Grandpa Karol Wojtyla burnst airplane gazoline as an addict, just to be able to mumble about the love of the neighbor and to demonstrate his own self-love. This is satisfied by the homage of millions, exaggerated adulatorily by the Polish press.


WHO NEEDS MORE TRANSLATION?

What about politically incorrect speech?

Please, check another fragment from Urban's which is politically incorrect. Even liberals do not like politcially incorrect speech:

***Witaj&#261;c s&#281;dziwego bo&#380;ka wci&#261;&#380; gdzie&#347; jacy&#347; &#380;�&#322;ci i &#347;niadzi klaszcz&#261;, skacz&#261;, ta&#324;cz&#261; w telewizorze. Wkr�tce jednak ekrany TV zajm&#261; zbli&#380;enia polskich dziewic zalanych &#322;zami szcz&#281;&#347;cia poni&#380;ej blond grzywek.***

Welcoming the ancient idol (god-idol) - some yellow or dark are always somewhere applauding, jumping or dancing in TV set. Soon the screens of Polish TV sets would be filled with the close view (can be translated in Polish as the "intercourse" = "zblizenie") of Polish virgins covered with tears of happiness under their blond forelocks.