You certainly use some intersting language in a supposedly refined forum. For your information I live in NYC and lost a friend and a relative on 9/11 so I am aware what it was like. I also work with children with severe disabilites and did an internship in a prison. My point about the prisoners was not to say that they are innocent but to say my own personal view, which I am not forcing down anyones throat, is that I would want to live in a society that protects and treats its weakest members. I too experienced cat calling, but it didnt effect my feelings about programs in prisons. You tell me I am ignorant yet you are foolish enough to believe that cuts to welfare and social programs will reduce the number of children born into poverty when they never have. Also althuogh it is very generous of you to donate to childrens organizations you are mistaken if you think that any private agency will raise enough money to keep children out of poverty, for that we need welfare. My point was that when we take money from social service programs like head start and food stamps and other programs we are hurting the children not hte parents, and no matter how you feel about kids they are innocent victims. Also my point about defense was that the lions share of our taxes goes to defense not social service programs. In the future perhaps you could keep to a more civilized tone in a debate and refrain from personal insults and name calling directed at me and other members of the forum, that would seem to be the adult thing to do. Also my comment about the bubble was meant to refer to a large majority of middle class people, both childfree and not who I feel live in bubbles and do not see poverty first hand and are not affected by it, so to them it does not exist. I witness poverty and the effects of poverty every day first hand. I was not refering to you personally as I like to keep a civilized tone in debate. You obviously have a great deal of anger and honestly I feel badly for you.
Also I would love to know when I insulted you, perhaps I disagreed with you but a disagreement is not an insult.