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It saddens my heart that people would show disrespect to such a sacred place. It is pleasing to hear that you were able to spend time over lunch without disruption.

Is the art of Ninjutsu similar to Taekwondo or Jeet Kune Do? How long you studied the art?

I study the arts of Taekwondo, Jeet Kune Do, Judo, Kumdo, and various stick fighting methods. I'd enjoy learning another one to add to my arsenal! smile


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Ian, I thought that Stonehenge was off limits to the public. It is so sad to know this still happens. It is like the rock climbers over here who deface Devils Tower, even during the sacred ceremonies of the Native American tribes who have seen the area as Sacred Lands for centuries.


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I think it is wonderful that people are granted access. I would expect there to be guards to remove those who are not respectful to the area.

I think that those who love and cherish such blessings should not be punished for the actions of those who do not. Which I believe is the result of disallowing them access.

I believe it is incumbent on a society to teach others that respect is a cornerstone trait of humans. Community service to clean up and maintain the area that was defiled would teach that lesson in a productive manner.

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Very well said, Deb.


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One of my dreams is to get to visit Stonehenge. I'm sorry to hear that it has to be protected from the drunk and disorderly frown


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Hi Phyllis

Yes, Stonehenge is off limits to the public for most of the year. However, due to a series of events - such as the Battle of the Beanfield - they allow people to move among them at the solstices with this sort of result . People can also obtain permission to enter the stones at other times of the year for personal rituals, just to have a respectful look or, as in the last time I was there Pagan memorials and funerals.

In other areas such as Avebury people do climb over the standing stones. I once took a Witch friend from Leeds to see them and had to restrain her from physically ripping people off the rocks. I did't stop her from using PK and psychic influence to 'assist' people from falling off them though as three people did while we were there. She also called upon the 'wee folk' to do the same thing after she had left so I'd be interested in any first aid/accident records to see if it's had any effect.


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I could not get access to the video, Ian. It said not available. That is funny about your wiccan friend.

Let us know if anyone else fell off the stones. I do not understand the lack of respect for sacred places. I just do not get it.

Thanks for sharing that story.


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Hi Deb

Ninjutsu is currently practiced in two main styles; Gebukan and Bujinkan, both of which you can probably look up in your local area. I belong to the Shinobi kai which is recognised by both of them as are our instructors.

As these videos show , we don't take ourselves too seriously. For example last nights training featured unarmed taijutsu, counter-knife, rolled-up magazine, and hula hoop as a defensive tool (a new one to me!)


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[quoteI could not get access to the video, Ian. It said not available.][/quote]

Drat! There must be some sort of regional 'block' on it. I understand there is a way 'round this by something called "peer to peer" sharing, but will have to ask my more computer-savvy friends about it.


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