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#246506 05/02/06 08:59 AM
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Hello Everyone,
I have used a pendulum with great success when doing healing work with others, but find nothing but contradictions when I try to use it for myself. I just don't seem to get any sense from it!

Is this usual? Should it not be used for personal use?


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Hello Patience. First of all congratulations on getting healing results from your pendulum, that's great!

I have an article on dowsing here: Learning to Pendulum Dowse

It may be worth a quick read to check you are following all the tips.

I find my pendulums invaluable...currently as I think my way around the house there is one by me at my desk, one in my healing room, two in the kitchen & one around my neck! Sometimes I can't lay my hands on a single one of them...I'm sure they hide when it is a bad day to dowse!

Personal questions are the trickiest to get clear answers for- it isn't the pendulum doing the answering it is your intuition- the pendulum is the tool. When we have a personal investment in the answer we want we can influence the pendulum & get unreliable results.

One way to reduce this is to put possible answers on identical squares of paper. Mix them up well face down & dowse over them.

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I have accused my pendulum of lying to me! My friend swears I am not properly grounded, and that is the problem. The book I read stated the pendulum should be used for helping others, not for personal gain. But do not listen to me. Lauren I will try your suggestion with the scraps of paper.

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I think when people warn against personal gain they are saying don't go dowsing for lottery numbers- that's hardly a 'higher purpose'. I don't think there is much wrong with dowsing for personal guidance.

Your friend is probably spot on when she mentions your grounding. Pop your black tourmaline between your feet <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Many thanks Lauren, I read your article and got some new ideas from it, with regard to grounding and preparation.

I have several crystals that I used in healing. I see that you mention using a black tourmaline between your feet for grounding. is there any other that might also work this way?
I have clear crystals, amethysts, milky quartz and smoky quartz. Also a polished rose quartz. Would any of these be of use?

Thanks for your help.


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Call me crazy...but being from the granite state here in the US...aka New Hampshire...I feel best at home meditating upon a large out cropping of granite - which incidentally contains ALOT of quartz. also you might want to use hematite or onyx which are both stones used for grounding.


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"Pendulum"--you mean something along the lines of a crystal on a chain?

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Shall I tell you something....? I have found that even a key-ring (complete with keys, key fobs and a scoobydoo!) on a piece of string, works....
As Laurn says, being grounded is very important... But once you have your connection, the energy has a good clear flow, and everything is channelled effectively.

Incidentally, I have three crystal, one brass and one haematite pendulums, all used for different purposes... But all effective...yet some "pendulums swing like a pendulum do"... Others are more understated in their responses... now THAT has always puzzled me... I can be in the same spot, asking the same question, and though I'll get the same answer, the response from one will be wild, the other far more 'quiet'... and it varies as to which is first.... Bizarre....? <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Quote:
I have several crystals that I used in healing. I see that you mention using a black tourmaline between your feet for grounding. is there any other that might also work this way?
I have clear crystals, amethysts, milky quartz and smoky quartz. Also a polished rose quartz. Would any of these be of use?

As Wendy suggests onyx and hematite are also good for grounding. You could try the smoky quartz you have. I also use obsidian. I have some huge chunks for my healing room...I want to know I'm going to get my client back to this reality again at the end of the treatment!

Yes Lynne pendulums are those crystals on the end of a chain, but as Alexandra says anything you can dangle (behave!) can be a makeshift pendulum.

Incidentally Alexandra I've noticed this difference between the way pendulums act too- maybe the material they are made of, the weight of them or the length of the chain...or something more spooky...I certainly get wild swings for 'yes, yes, yes,' & more reserved swings for 'oh okay if you must'!

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Many years ago, friends introduced me to the pendulum "baby" party trick. The method they used was to put a ring on the end of the chain and "dunk" it three times by the questioner into a "well" made by the person being questioned circling thumb and forefinger and closing in the bottom fingers of that hand. The pendulum was then brought to hang over the back of the hand of the person being questioned. If I recall correctly, the ring swung back and forth for one sex and in circles for the other sex of children one already had or might yet have. I wasn't convinced of its accuracy, after all, anyone could make it show I had 2 daughters, but I WAS convinced after I was the one holding the pendulum and it indicated that my friend had one extra daughter that was not part of the family as I knew it. I discovered then that she had miscarried a girl years before we knew each other. Very spooky. Does anyone know which way the pendulum was to swing for which sex? Anyone have positive experiences with this same use of the pendulum?
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My mom taught me that "trick" a few years ago at one of my sleepovers. You hold it over the wrist of the person that you are reading for. Then you ask it which way is for a boy and which is for a girl. (Ex. length of arm is boy and across the wrist is for a girl) You need to be very steady and do this in a place where there isn't any wind. When my mom taught this to me, she used a (short)pencil, a needle, and some thread(not too much though, maybe 6 inches or so). You thread the needle with the string, tie a knot, and push the sharp end of the needle into the eraser to make a pendulum. My mom said that when she had learned it(at a sleepover) the pencil started slowly circling, and then read girl, boy, boy, and then it cirlced for awhile. We now think that the circles represent years. Then it started with girl, boy. She thought that it was starting over again. She learned during her second marriage that the pencil wasn't starting over again!
At my sleepover we tried it on each of the girls, however I could never get it to work correctly on myself. When the mom of one of the girls came to pick her up I tried it on her as well. She had a girl and a boy, and I knew that. Unbeknownst to me she had had a miscarriage. When I did it, the pencil told me girl, diagonal, and boy. I was kinda confused so I asked her if she had had twins or something. She said no, and then told me that she had a miscarriage. I thought that was pretty crazy.
I have also heard of a similar thing being done between a couple expecting a child. The husband takes off his wedding ring and strings it with a string. He then holds it over his wife's belly. I believe that one way means boy and the other way means girl.

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find a pendulum, ask it which way is meant for boy/girl, hold it steady(it could take awhile so make sure that you can rest your elbow on something), it will start with slow circles and may continue to increase in speed, it will tell you the sex of the child, more slow circles, it will tell you the sex of the next child, more slow circles, when it decides to stop, it will come to a somewhat eery halt

Well, that's all that I can think of, I had never heard of your version before, trish. I have not found out what it will show for adopted children, stepchildren, or surrogacy if anything. Let me know if you find out. I hope that I helped!


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This is one of those things I have wanted to learn about and kept it in the back of my head. Now it is right out front and I need to do something about it!

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Good detailed instructions June Bug...we could do with some scientific research to see if this really does work...although that would take all the fun out of it!

Let us know how you get on Ana-Maree & come back if you need help.

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Wow, this is fascinating. I didn't know what to use, then found this little meditation bracelet I made my self with beads... kind of on the order of a rosary with beads in grens and moons, stars, teardrops leaves. The end charm is a large heart. I just started, so I did what was mentioned above and asked simple yes/no questions to see which way it moved. Very disctinct, no doubt what is yes and what is no. Now how about this one:

<One way to reduce this is to put possible answers on identical squares of paper. Mix them up well face down & dowse over them.>

What do you do to determine which peice of paper it is over?

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Well done! Now you have a yes/no response you can dowse over each piece of paper asking which is the correct answer. I tend only to use this method when the question has too much personal investment in it. Try with less 'loaded' questions until you get confident.

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Quote:
Many years ago, friends introduced me to the pendulum "baby" party trick


My boss showed me something like this.

Take a sharpened pencil stick a straight pin in the eraser and thread some string through the needle and swing over the wrist. I can't remember which way it swung for boy same for girl though.

It predicted that I was having a boy before the ultrasound was able to pick up what I was having and he wasn't shy about it either!

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Thank you Lauren for the tip about the answers on paper, I will try that. I have worked off and on with a pendulum for about 5 years and found that if the question is of a personal nature, I seem to influence it too much. My girlfriend has always used the needle and string for the sex of the unborn child, it works everytime, she learned this from her Grandmother.


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Very good input everyone!!! That was very interesting and helped revive an interest that had been dormant for a bunch of years. Let's all do some test research now and see what we learn. The Pendulum Posse! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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Oooh research eh? What could we all dowse for that would be verifiable later? In the spirit of fun here...nothing too heavy!

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We were lucky enough to meet (some may say by chance but I think my son and I were destined to meet her) a very spiritual woman here. She had a class on using your pendulum and of course my son (who is 10 ) went. She had a sort of test for us to see if we could find which cup the crystals were under and my son was the ONLY one who got it right (little stinker). She just loves my son and he loves her, they have a sort of connection , which is great.

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Hi Eva, how did the test work? Sounds interesting, would be fun to try with my kid too.

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Hi Eva

Sounds like your son is quite an intuitive! That would be a fun test for my students. I did once hide crystals around the room & they had to find them...pendulum hide & seek <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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For folks asking about pendulum directions:

I was taught that different pendulums can act differently, and I've owned two of them and they do indicate things a tad differently. When you are first working with a pendulum, ask it to show you the motion it will use to show a "yes" answer and then ask it to show you what motion it uses to show a "no" answer.

On doing work for yourself with a pendulum:

Lauren is right, it's best to work in a "blind" option when doing pendulum for yourself, as any change in your own energy will influence the pendulum. Just try sitting there and making it swing in various circles or lines as you will. It's really easy, isn't it? I tend to ask my pendulum about things that are around me, and not try to ask directly about myself as I just get better info that way.

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She had 3 cups turned upside down and using our pendulums we were to decide which one the crystal was under. I have been usuing a pendulum for years, my Dad taught me how and funny enough I only used it to find the remote to the TV. I have used it to find my missing earrings and my keys. Rae is right different ones do different things and I can say from personal experience do not try and use it if you are upset or not balanced. Yes I have done this and the poor thing will just go from one thing to another, EXACTLY like I am at the time.
Yes my son is very intuitive, it is almost scary at times.

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I was taught the needle & thread years ago. As I recall it swings in a line if it's a boy and circle if it's a girl. (Similar to looking for a hot dog or hamburger on an ultrasound <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) I used it for both of mine (accurately) and on several girlfriends. My stepdaughter wants to be surprised so she won't do it (she's due next month). I was told it had something to do with the heartbeat since the genders beat at different speeds. Not sure if that's true, but that's what I learned.


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here's a quick question... when doing "baby dowsing" , has anyone ever found step children to show up in the reading? T


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Hi Trishh,
It showed me to have 2 girls and 2 boys, I gave birth to a boy and a girl, but I also had 2 stepchildren one boy, one girl. I also had to pregnancies that did not make it to term, so I never knew if it was reading my 2 stepchildren or the 2 children I lost.


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Hi Reddraken, thanks for taking the time to tell me about your experiencing with dowsing. We had the pendulum out to retest my younger daughter who is in a really lovely relationship now after a long time of jerks. They don't want babies for a while, but since reading these posts here I wanted to see if hers had changed from when she was very young. Back when she was 7, she was adamant that she was never going to have children. The pendulum then was absolutely dead still (wierd- never before in my experience). This time at 20 it said a boy very definitely.
Who knows?
What got me going on the step children thing is that at that same time for fun I also tested my husband with whom I share 2 boys as well as my own two girls. John's pendulum read girl, boy, girl, boy. I laughed, and asked him if he had any children he was hiding or maybe didn't know about. Then it hit us, that was the same pattern as our 4 we share- my girl eldest, his son next, my younger daughter, his younger son.
Wierd. So I'm very interested in your response. Thanks!
Anyone else?


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