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#199462 04/04/06 12:03 AM
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Could you please e mail it to me? I will send you a private message with my e mail address if you can send it to me that would be great.

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What an interesting and thought provoking discussion. THANK YOU!

To add my little bit, I believe that one does not need to belong to, or practice a religion in order to be a spiritual person. I know several Christians, Buddhists and Hindus who show a most beautiful spirituality in their lives.

There are people from many religions who are spiritual people, and many who are not. There are many paths, and we each must find the one which enables us to be the best that we can, and to achieve our highest level of awareness. It is a continual upward striving toward higher consciousness. I do not believe that any one path is the only right one.

For me, it is all about love and respect for all life - not just for human life. I see all life as ONE. To become one with all life - to love unconditionally - this is my aim in life. When we have learned to truly love unconditionally, everything else falls into place.


Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
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Not all spirituality is good. Evil is also a spirit.

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To add my little bit, I believe that one does not need to belong to, or practice a religion in order to be a spiritual person. I know several Christians, Buddhists and Hindus who show a most beautiful spirituality in their lives.

There are people from many religions who are spiritual people, and many who are not. There are many paths, and we each must find the one which enables us to be the best that we can, and to achieve our highest level of awareness. It is a continual upward striving toward higher consciousness. I do not believe that any one path is the only right one.

For me, it is all about love and respect for all life - not just for human life. I see all life as ONE. To become one with all life - to love unconditionally - this is my aim in life. When we have learned to truly love unconditionally, everything else falls into place.


Hi Patience,

Beautifully put! This is also my aim in life. To love unconditionally and hold no judgment against others. Not always easy, for sure, but my desire none-the-less <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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So if you hold no judgements what about the evil that men do? would you never think that rape or murder are wrong? Is that too judgemental?

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Evil exists in the heart of humanity. To acknowledge that an act is wrong is not what I understand by 'judgement'.

To me, in 'judging' someone, I am presuming to know all the facts, which I do not know and cannot know because no person can know the soul of another.

Certainly anything which harms another is wrong because it is without love.


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Its not up to us to judge its up to Gwad and jeezus(sic)

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A judgement is a decision of innocence or guilt. God has already judged that people who practice sin are guilty. The Bible says all sinners are already condemned. Like the two thieves on the cross with Jesus. Already condemned and the only difference between Christians and non-christians is Christians are forgiven and covered by the blood covenant of Christ.Our fine has been paid. That fine is spiritual death. As Christians, we just DISCERN between words and actions that God has already judged. It is non-Christians who judge. They judge God. They call Him a liar by denying what He has judged as sin.

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No shades of grey Dave? That really precludes compassion in my view. What if we were to look at judgement as an assessment of liability and responsibility instead, which would be kinder and perhaps fairer. I always feel that judgement implies 'blame' and 'blame' is destructive rather than constructive.

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Sin involves choice. If you choose sin then who else can possibly be to blame?

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