The Duke University lacrosse team has had their season suspended and the coach has resigned.
Allegations have been lodged against 3 white males on the team. They have been accused of raping, sodomizing, choking and racially terrorizing an african american woman/dancer/student.
She was hired to dance for the frat/lacrosse party.
The rape victim was drug into the bathroom and raped for
30 minutes.
An email from one of the players stated this,
"I want to invite some strippers to my dorm room,
kill them and cut off their skin." "I will find this sexually gratifying."
There is loud thunder roaring saying this was a racially motivated incidence
and hate crime. Others are screaming sexism and classism.
I'm saying, "a vicious criminal act."
check out the article
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art42121.aspVicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
There is a Gambling Web site taking bets on
How Many of the Duke players DNA will be found
in the rape victim.
Some people are just sick.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Do you remember Rush Limbaugh?
The Talk Radio Host.
He is need of serious prayer.
Ol' Rush Limbaugh called the alleged Duke Rape Victim
a "ho," on live radio. Then, proceeded to insult
Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton and the Hurricane Katrina Victims.
Sound like Rush is back on that oxycotin and other drugs
he had to go on sabbatical for a few years ago.
He is not going to shake, rattle or roll me.
You could just hear the hatred spewing in his suppose
to be calm words. A bunch of self hatred is what he
has going on.
This Duke thing is horrid. I'd like to make it go away.
Wanna hear him? Click his blog.
http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200604030004Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Vicki,
I kept going past this post, because I just wasn't sure if I was up to responding to it. But I had to see.
I don't understand the cruelty and hatred in people. I cannot fathom what would cause not just one person but three to stoop to the level of animals and do this to another human being.
i aslo do not understand why in the world these women would have returned, but that does not mean the crime is their fault.
In the case of my rape- it was a date rape, a case of things gone too far, gotten out of hand. This is just sheer savagery, cruelty, and torture.
A Lacrosse team? At Duke University? These should be the men of honor and dignity - gentlemen. Not savages and backhill inbreds.
What kind of hope is there for the rest of the world if our "Shining examples" our "golden boys" can be reduced to such degradations and acts of complete evil?
I saw this on the News a couple of weeks ago. The 3 guys who did it should confess because it is just going to make all the other team really mad at them after they find out it was them. Don't the cops already have their 3 suspects or something because there were a couple of them who wouldn't give the police their DNA?
Hey Michelle,
First off, sorry about your past rape.
I struggled with rather or not I was going to write
about this story. It took me awhile to even zero in on it.
Couldn't read or deal with it for my own personal reasons.
But, I came across the Duke student's email.
Sports Illustrated, interviewed one of the Duke Student's
lawyers. He's saying, that the rape victim came to the
party drunk, bruised, beaten and probably already raped.
The cover of Sports Illustrated, is absolutely disgusting.
An, interracial couple slobbering and sexing it up.
I can tell they have absolutely no regard for a large
segment of their readers.
And, let me correct that, they really don't look like a couple - it's just disgusting.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Hey Trisha,
46 male Duke students had to supply their DNA.
I hope these DNA tests are well protected and well preserved.
This is like the Cody Posey trial.
I will be glad when this is over with.
Folks are just spewing hate and horrid words.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
They took DNA samples from all the men but one - the black man. Simply because she said it was white men who raped her.
We'll have to see the defense's evidence. They say it's strong, but without having seen any of it, I can't say. I did find the e-mail bizarre and rather telling. They say they were quoting a movie.
That's correct. Does that anger you?
I had made mention of this fact earlier in the thread
when I directed the readers to my article.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art42121.aspVicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Okay, we have 2 conflicting reports here.
Associated Press reports Wade Smith, one of the
Duke Student attorneys have said the DNA Results
are in and NONE match the 46 dna samples taken from
the lacrosse team.
The prosecutor Mike Nifong states the DNA Results are
in and he won't release them to the public.
He is expecting arrests to be possibly be made this week.
The New Heated Debate
1. Who rapes without condoms
2. Are these alleged pictures authenicate
3. What about her 7 broken artificial nails/any dna
I will be glad when this is over.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Who they took the DNA from? Nope, just stating a fact in reply to poster Trisha. As far as I know, there was no DNA refusal?
So their attorney says no match, and the prosecutor says arrests will be made. Hmm.
Okay and the beat goes on.
Prosecutor, Mike Nifong is scheduled to meet with the
Grand Jury on Monday. The rape victim has identified
2 men. And, she supposedly identified these 2 men when
the alleged rape took place.
Nifong, ordered the 46 DNA samples, becuz he wasn't
certain IF the rape victim really knew these guys true
and real names, based on the fact they were swapping names.
They were even using the Duke Baseball Team's name at the
party, which they have admitted to.
The DNA results have gone to a 2nd Lab.
Two players DNA was found on the floor and on a towel.
This is making Nifong question some things.
They are trying to find the person who made the 911 call
informing them a rape was taking place.
The attending doctors & nurses are saying rape.
The report which the lacrosse players atty's read
from isn't saying this could have happened.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Two of the Duke Students and players of the Lacrosse Team,
were arrested, but are out on bond on $400,000 each.
The indictments have been sealed, we don't know all the charges but one has been rape.
Prosecutor, Mike Nifong is expecting one more arrest to be made.
As of this morning the lacrosse player, which sent the
disturbing email hadn't been arrested nor indicted.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Here's an article that I read about the case. This one talks about defense evidence that may prove the boys innocent. This whole thing is very intense and unfortunate. There are a bunch of related articles on the site, too...I hope they get to the bottom of it...
From what has been released so far, they have no evidence to indicate these guys are guilty.
Hello bepart,
Welcome to the forum.
I presume the Grand Jury must have evidence, which the public isn't privy, too.
And, this is the reason, they have chosen to indict them.
One of the Duke students has supplied a taxi receipt an ATM receipt at the time
which the rape allegedly occurred.
I guess the prosecution has evidence, which is making them dispute this or not buy it.
I have been watching Catherine Crier and CourtTV, along with many others.
There seems to be, which is normal 2 totally different sides of what the evidence is showing.
Meaning, from the Defense and Prosecution.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
I presume the Grand Jury must have evidence, which the public isn't privy, too.
Perhaps, but the statements so far have indicated the indictments were solely the result of the accuser identifying them via a photograph. Additionally, they have released evidence which claims to support the fact that one of the guys arrested was not at the party at the time the alleged attack took place.
Please do not misunderstand me. There is no punishment to great for a rapist or anyone else convicted of a violent crime. However, our justice system is based on the fact that you are innocent until proven guilty. These guys have not been proven guilty yet. If they are innocent then they are a victim in this case as well.
OH Wow!
I wished people did believe you were innocent until proven guilty.
That's how it is suppose to work. Most people who are charged don't feel this.
I'm not surprised they are being found guilty right now.
This is a high profile case & in high profile cases citizens formulate their own opinions
and reach their own conclusions.
I just watched CourtTV, Catherine Crier the entire gamut of shows.
There are so many conflicting reports, etc.
For every bit of evidence presented by the Defense attorneys etc,
there is another piece of alleged evidence to dispute it.
There are so many conflicting stories, that I can't wait to see what happens at trial.
And, yes I presume that the prosecution has evidence, which we aren't privy too.
I've yet to see a prosecutor divulge everything they have.
At least not to the public.
There is allegely a woman who lived next door to the house where this took place.
She supposedly has spoken with the rape victim's father. He reports, that she heard a woman yelling, screaming, crying, things being broken and the sounds of someone falling.
He reported this weeks ago on Rita Crosby.
He stated, his daughter's face had been beaten & bruised.
That, she looked like she had been in a prize fight.
Another report is saying she may have been given the
drug GHB - Mike Nifong has alluded to this.
And, 2ndly I hope the grand jury would stand in honor of what they are to represent.
To decide to move forward with indictment, because the evidence they have reviewed
has merited a probable cause.
The same way people should be presumed Innocent and they are not -
I'm presuming the Grand Jury is honorable with their decision to indict.
I personally will be glad when they are found innocent or guilty.
Because, this to me is turning into a farce.
It's an American Tragedy the way the Media and Public are behaving.
It's ashame.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Any news on Collin Finnerty? He is 1 of the 2 indicted.
Apparently he committed some violent crime against a gay man some years back?
Hey Darling Poor,
As of today, things are pretty much the same.
The 2nd DNA results haven't come back and for every bit of evidence the defense
has to present, the Prosecution has something to dispute it.
Unfortunately Mr. Finnerty committed gay bashing, which is a Hate Crime
in November 2005, that was only a few short months, ago.
He and 2 other guys physically assaulted and used slurs against their victim.
He rec'd 25 hours of community sevice, then his record was expunged.
Not good!
As a matter of fact, 15 of the lacrosse players have criminal records.
And, the alleged rape victim has a tainted past.
I'm not speaking of her Exotic Dancing I'm not a person who judges that.
I'm sad the way the Media and all communities of people have handled this - just sad.
Chat with ya later.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
Breaking News...
Just heard this on CourtTV.
Some of the lacrosse players are beginning to talk, they have verified racial slurs
was used against both of the dancers in the midst of the party.
They told ESPN, that there was an explosive argument with the dancers concerning
their money, their fee and that's how things ensued.
Well, I'm sure more details of what really happened will continue to unfold.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
He must've had a good lawyer to get off with community service for an assault.
The civil rights movement seems so long ago to someone my age, who was raised pretty much colorblind, but race relations in the US still need decades of work. i.e., if this were an all-Black team and the dancers were white? How the dynamics would sadly change.
Anyway, I understood the argument also involved a broomstick and that just sickens me.
Well, sadly I would have to agree with the points you made.
And, I also grew up in a color blind house.
My mother is an african american and my father, was a native american.
The hatred spewing from both sides of the fence is sickening.
My grandchildren are bi racial and I love my daughter in laws, who brought them into this world.
A lacrosse player stood in the middle of the floor with a broom in hand and yelled, "I'm going to rape them with this broom."
The dancers left, but outside of the house apologies were made & a promise
everyone would be on their best behavior, so they returned.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
The 3rd Indictment has been handed down against Dave Evans, age 23, Senior & Duke lacrosse team Captain.
He has been charged with 1st degree forcible rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.
Vicki L. Forte'
Bellaonline
Crime Editor
A pretrial hearing was held yesterday, Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse defense team appeared civil to one another.
The judge reduced the bond for Reade Seligmann, one of the lacrosse players.
The original bond was set for 400,000 and it was reduced to 100,000.
The judge ordered the cell phone records of the rape victim to be turned over to the defense.
Nifong enter over 500 pages of discovery.
None of the players were present, but the courtroom was packed.
The next court date will take place in July.
Vicki L. Forte'
BellaOnline
Crime Editor