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The University of Alabama has degrees online now! Very acceptable! I am not sure if they have specifically accounting, but go to the websites of any known Land Based school and you might be shocked to see what they offer online now.

I'm starting grad school in the fall at UA in Family Financial Planning and Counseling.
Well, I searched the website of Alabama University, but didn't found any of the degree in Accounting. Still searching for it :(
I heard that CalUniversity.edu is one among online universities which offers affordable, quality education that will provide you with the skills and knowledge you need to obtain the career you desire. You can choose among one of the programs they offer, say Masters or Doctorate.
Suzane, you can also look for the universities like University of Phoenix or National American University. They provide online degree in accounting - associate, bachelors as well as masters. As fas as CalUniversity.edu is concerned, please check whether they provide the degree you desire for.
I have checked this CalUniversity.edu , there is no such accounting degree provided by this university. Please help me in clearing my doubts.
Online degree programs are easy to pursue and nothing to doubt about the syllabus. You can directly request the university authorities about the course details. They will provide you with insights about the program you are interested in. You can browse thedegreeexperts.com Detailed info about the accounting degree and many more degrees is available on this site.
Suzane - I firmly believe in seeking the advice of your colleagues in determining the reputability of a distance learning education. For instance, some companies care simply about the title, and accredidation. Others do have opinions about certain universities offerings. Ask around your company to see what others have done to get a better idea of what may be frowned upon - or encouraged.
Your updates will really help people out here to browse a quality link. Stay in touch.
My DIL got her Masters in Business and is currently getting her Masters in Accounting from University of Phoeinx. She holds a nice position with Wells Fargo and is promised much more when her 2nd Masters is finished, so I think the answer is yes, companies do accept online degrees as well as those from land school. Especially when it's apparent the student is working full time and getting a quality education at the same time.
Go online to any college you are interested in. University of Wisconsin is offering online courses. pretty much most colleges are going that direction because it saves money while bring in more students and thus more revenue.
http://online.fit.edu/index.php?college=14&level=undergraduate [url=http://online.fit.edu/index.php?college=14&level=undergraduate][/url]

There is an accounting degree at this school. smile
I don't find any think wrong in online education. Even they are more flexible and convenient. I am pursuing my master degree through distance learning and I am very comfortable with it. The only thing you must do is search for an accredited online school. Follow this link - DistanceLearningU.com Hope it helps you out in finding best accounting school.
Dec. 20 I'll have my associates from University of Phoenix. U of P is accredited and the credits will transfer. That was important to me incase I decide to go to my local community college in the future.
There are many Online Colleges but you must go for Accredited Online Universities for your online degree. It benefits you more in your career.
I have earned my Associate's Degree thanks to Distance Education and have been researching online colleges that offer English degrees. Not easy to come by. It looks like I'm going to continue with the University of Maryland University College. I spoke to a representative today and they have what I need. One thing he told me today is that colleges like the University of Phoenix are "businesses" and are not interested in the student but rather are in it for the money. (The gentlemen I spoke to was very informative.)
I just recently came across a website that gives information on any college you're looking for and if I can find it again I will let you know. It was a great resource and I believe it was from the Department of Education.
I hope I haven't insulted anyone who earned their degree the U of Phoenix.
The University of Phoenix and National University are "businesses" in the sense that they are for-profit, but to be successful, and they seem to be, they have to help students and get students jobs.

I'm not a graduate of the school, but the people I work with who got their degrees there are pretty smart and seem to have gotten value for their money.

Can't say I'm a fan of any link that primarily lists for-profit and online-only schools. Many great schools out there are offering advanced degrees online, but they aren't paying for placement on all these dot.coms like the Phoenixes are. Try this link to get you started: www.electroniccampus.org/e-learning/ It doesn't cover the entire US, but it will get you started! Additionally, I should mention that most of the public/traditional universities that are now offering classes online cost less per credit than the for-profit folks. And you don't have to worry about accreditation issued (the word accredited doesn't guarantee anything, you need to know if they are accredited by the same boards that the research universities use, else credit transfer and reputation way not be what you think). Joel
I've been having the discussion about "level of classes to take" with several of my friends. I certainly think the University of Phoenix types of schools offer great alternatives for some! They are fairly inexpensive, they teach the basic skills, and you now have a degree to go lobby for a raise. If you are lacking skills in some basic areas - for example you are not very good with finances - their courses can help you get on the right path.

It all depends on where you are in life, and what specifically you want to learn. And also, what your next step is going to be. If you are currently a supervisor in a company and want to become manager, going to U of Phoenix might be perfect. But say you are an accounting person and want to become a $100,000 a year web designer because it's always been your dream in life. You might do better to go to a school which specializes in that. It would cost more to begin with, but the teachers and classes could be much better for you, and get you towards your goal.
Sorry to be a bit stubborn on this point, but misinformation abounds. Comparative example:MBA Murray State University (KY, AACSB accredited-highest biz accreditation) Estimated total degree cost: $13,868 Wayne State University (NE, regionally accredited) Estimated total degree cost: $6750 University of Phoenix (everywhere, regionally accredited) Estimated total degree cost: $24,840-37,760 depending on the options you choose. In a BEST CASE SCENARIO, Phoenix nearly twice as much as a BETTER ACCREDITED MBA program, and nearly four times as much as a similarly accredited program. My point is, no, it doesn't depend where you are in life. It only depends on whether you value your time, money and reputation more than you value making money for the Phoenixes of the world. Do the research, pay less, get more, and ask for a bigger raise and a quicker promotion to go with the better reputed degree you earned and the hard work that got you there!
I'm confused, isn't a selling point of the University of Phoenix that you can attend in person if you want? Does Murray state really offer that?
Actually, live2learn, price and reputation are not the only factors to take into consideration. I'm currently working on a graduate certificate in Software Engineering from Stevens Institute of Technology. (I'll probably go on and get a Masters when I finish at the end of this year.) My original goal was to get a graduate certificate in a computer science related field because not having a CS degree is staring to hurt me in the workforce (when I went into the field, having a BS in any subject was a bonus, now a CS degree is a requirement for the majority of employers.) I looked at a number of programs that would allow me to meet that goal strictly via distance learning. I found some better known and significantly cheaper schools (one was literally half the price) that would have allowed me to meet that goal. I choose Stevens because 100% of what I would be learning in my classes would be useful to me in my day to day work and none of it would be review of things I had learned informally. It was worth it to me to pay significantly more for that and my classes are absolutely fascinating!

As for your MBA example - here in Oregon, no one has heard of the "better", cheaper schools you are mentioning (except maybe for sports.) On the other hand, because University of Phoenix has so many alumni, the chance of there being an alum at any company you apply to is going to be fairly high and that is likely to be an advantage. Also, as I understand it, for MBA's, generally either you went to a top tier school or you didn't, so 'better' isn't particularly meaningful except when it is better for you.

I do know that as a distance learning student at a school far away, there are a number of opportunities you miss. I can't make it to the grad student networking events or check out books from the library (I do have access to all the online resources, but if something is only available as a physical book, I have to hope my public library has it or wait to get it via ILL.) Career services are difficult to use as a distance learning student as well. Also, being in a different timezone campus sometimes presents problems as well. Presumably, University of Phoenix students have the opportunity to actually go to a campus for those services that work better in person. I can see that as being worth quite a bit to some people.

Also, presumably the "better" schools are more selective and not everyone who can put any given degree to good use can get in to them.

I don't have any first hand experience with the University of Phoenix, but they are good enough to qualify for regional accreditation which puts them on a level playing field with all other accredited universities (and a few new ones that are in the accreditation process and likely to succeed.) I do agree with you that you should do your research and know what you are getting in to.
As relates to Julie's post, I do want to say that the networking / alumni aspect is very important to me. I don't need my degree for "business" reasons - I am very happy owning BellaOnline and intend to make this site better for the rest of my life. So a degree doesn't help me. One thing I want is to build a network of contacts so I can promote and publicize BellaOnline, to help all the editors get more books, more interviews, etc. So I would much rather have well placed, high quality contacts from Northeastern compared with say just a few "local business" contacts at a small midwestern school.
To address the above: Lisa: Yes, every major university I've looked at enrolls you as a student when you enroll online, and that means access to on-campus classes if you want them. The professors generally teach in both worlds (f2f & OL) so the options abound. Julie: First, I think you are absolutely correct that there are other considerations in some situations. The issue I was initially addressing was the all-too-common misconception that the Phoenixes are actually LESS expensive to attend, which is lightyears from the truth. Second, I couldn't disagree more with both your assertion that there is no differentiated value between an AACSB biz school and Phoenix to an employer (even in OR, I've been in Portland and talked to business leaders there who most definitely respect the value of the gold standard of business training) and your implication that there is little to no networking value to be gained from a distant program. I made connections in at least a dozen states and half a dozen countries through my MBA program at such a university, and like any other cohort, you will surely get to know your classmates. Sure, you've got me on the likelihood of crossing paths with alums, but I wouldn't value that at four times the cost of my degree. While there is surely an abundance of nepotism in the business world, I'd find it hard to believe that any significant part of it came through the advancement of graduates of the boss's online university that s/he's never met. Third, fully accredited schools span the entire breadth of 'Ivy League' to 'a GED and 16 on the ACT and you're in' So there is no reason to assume that there isn't a good fully-accredited fit for someone out there. State commuter and community colleges' online programs can be some of the least expensive, and highly focused on teaching quality options out there. Fourth, there are certainly sacrifices to online learning at great distance, access to physical libraries is sometimes one of them. But I am not necessarily encouraging going far away. More than 85% of colleges in this country are offering online classes. The SREB link I sent attests to the availability of a plethora of programs in most every state. If the only thing nearby is a Phoenix campus, go for it, but don't assume that the options aren't available to you where you might get the benefits of OL alongside the benefits of attending, and getting your degree from, a great university. You might be surprised at what's available; I know I was when I started looking. Finally, back to Lisa (and thank you for this forum, BTW!): If your interest in getting a business degree is not the degree or the skillset, but the networking.... I will beg you to take all the money you were going to throw at Northeastern, join a cpl quality networking groups, buff up your networking skills with a book or two and some outings, maybe join Toastmasters, and take the rest of those thousands of dollars and pay for some SEO and PR work from a reputable firm. The impact will be tenfold in a tenth of the time. If you DO want the skillset, go to the best school you can both get into and afford, and the quality of the networking will rise to whatever level you choose to take it. I'm not sure why you assume that the contacts you make at Northeastern (fine school, btw, and AACSB accredited, though they tend to get a bad report card from students in their online programs) will be of high quality and well-placed, nor why you assume that those you make at a small midwestern school won't be, or for that matter, why a small midwestern school is the option I was suggesting for you. CalState, SUNY,U.Tex, Texas A&M, U.Col, FL State, Purdue, OK State, U.Tenn, Pace, IU, Syracuse, Penn State, BABSON for goodness sake (the 'home' of the Sloan Consortium!!). All these and more have online MBA programs, and they are a far cry from small midwestern towns. They won't ALL be less expensive, but these represent some of the best business educators and business education innovators in the world! They might warrant at least a glance before getting tossed in the bucket with the small midwestern towns that can't provide any decent networking connections, ya know? This isn't just me the blowhard. I care about raising the bar in education, and getting more options on the table for more people and for less of the money that we bust our humps daily to earn. I'd love to see you get the skills you want, the site growth you're working for, and the publicity you deserve, all rolled in with the extra cash you saved in your pocket so you can celebrate with the most delicious (low carb, of course) meal you've ever tasted :) I'm happy to see the owners of Phoenix do the same thing, but not at the opportunity cost they've laid on the table. It's just not a good deal (for the vast majority of ppl--there are always exceptions) compared to what else is out there. Whew. Sorry for turning this into a dissertation.
Live2Learn -

We're always curious when brand new members join us and start promoting a specific angle on something. Could you let us know what your background is - do you work for a particular school? According to new FTC regulations, it is almost mandatory to reveal that sort of information when you are making posts that relate to your employment field.

On the enroll in person issue - I think it's a far cry to say a person in Massachusetts COULD go on-campus to their school in Seattle - which would be pretty much impossible - vs that they could go on-campus at a school which has lots of local branches. That was what I was stating with local-branch schools.
Originally Posted By: Live2Learn

Finally, back to Lisa (and thank you for this forum, BTW!): If your interest in getting a business degree is not the degree or the skillset, but the networking.... I will beg you to take all the money you were going to throw at Northeastern, join a cpl quality networking groups, buff up your networking skills with a book or two and some outings, maybe join Toastmasters, and take the rest of those thousands of dollars and pay for some SEO and PR work from a reputable firm. The impact will be tenfold in a tenth of the time.


Live2Learn - I already do belong to many networking groups. I also belong to Mensa, I have read at least 100 books on business, networking, and leadership because I'm in the top 10 of Amazon reviewers and am deluged with them weekly to review. I don't need SEO work - BellaOnline achieves the #1 result for the things we're interested in. People come to us to learn SEO techniques. I have already done all of these things. What I want is what Northeastern offers me. I have been in their system four days and am already thrilled beyond my dreams. This is exactly what I was hoping for.
I don't think Babson had an online only bachelor's degree. I remember looking. I did apply to and was accepted by Penn State, but their courses were not nearly as robust or well organized as Northeastern's, so I turned them down.
Lisa, I went to Phoenix because my son and dil (who by the way live in Phoenix) went there (online)for their MBA's. They both have fantastic promising careers in banking. My purpose was to get a degree because I wanted one. Phoenix does offer ground classes in my city, but because of my convoluted work schedule that wasn't an option. I've been to other colleges since I graduated in 1963, and it seems that they all have something different to offer. I think the issue after graduation is what you do with your degree. My dil's father (in Pa where I live) has a Masters from Penn State and makes less as a human service director than I do as a city bus driver but he's good at it and loves it. I plan to use my management degree to manage an animal shelter when I retire from driving. Some people would think that's not a worthy profession, but my passion is humane treatment of animals and I'm grateful to have had an opportunity to earn a degree that will enable me to be a part of making that a reality.
Granny that is AWESOME that you are going to manage a shelter - and I'm sure you will do it amazingly well! I think that's an incredible goal and it is thrilling you got the degree and training to be able to do it to the best of your ability.

Kudos to you, I think most of my friends would find that a quite admirable profession smile
Thanks Lisa. I've had raised eyebrows that I'd spend money for a degree to work in a low paying profession. It's all a matter of what you want, and I want to help animals. Actually, I would be a benefit for a shelter that is operating marginally financially. I'll have my Social Security, pension and my own nest egg to back me up so I don't need an enormous salary, therefore more of the donations could be directed at medical and daily care for the animals. I currently volunteer for a local rescue organization as well as our local humane society. I'm getting a lot of hands-on-experience to take with me.
Walking Granny - That's so cool! Julie
Thanks Julie
Granny - I imagine people who say things like that to you also feel it's a waste of time when doctors go to Africa and help fight malaria and such. They probably feel it's a waste when someone becomes a lawyer only to work inexpensively in inner cities to help rape victims.

Don't you worry at ALL for what they say. It is incredibly admirable that you are working to help animals, and an inspiration to us all!
Walking Granny and Lisa,
You are both well grounded in reality and have a passionate goal you are working towards. That to me is what everyone should be doing. If everyone were working toward something they have a passion for, there would be many more people who love their jobs and they would do them better too because they would care about what they were doing.
Both of you will be highly successful in your goals because of your passions. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Everyone has different values and the trick sometimes is to make sure we are living according to our own and not someone else's. You both demonstrate that it can be done. I mentioned that passion and knowing yourself well is important in an earlier post Self-Motivation Through Good Career Choice. I do feel passion is important for people to stay motivated in their distance learning courses and to help them choose the best school for themselves because they will know what they really want to learn. The best school for an individual also matches other needs and requirements in his/her life which is why it is so necessary to know him/herself well in all aspects of his/her life.
Lisa, I certainly meant no offense in my suggestive comments about your educational pursuits. I must say that I am still a bit confused as to why you think it is worth the money to pay significantly more for your education than you need to, especially considering that the needs you described earlier seem to have been thoroughly met by your current skill set. As to the question of my background, which I have described in both an email and other posts, I am an entrepreneur, MBA and grad student finishing a second master's (philosophy and linguistics). I am currently serving as a graduate assistant at the University of Louisville (whose programs I have only mentioned in one post, my first, wherein I identified myself as a Master's candidate at the school) in the school's Delphi Center, which has immersed me in research about online learning, and through that research I found this forum. I honestly find it refreshing that you were skeptical of me, and to be honest, I was, and to a degree continue to be, skeptical of those who promote what I can't help but see as paying more for less (in this case, you). The websites ABOUND that promote Phoenix, Walden, Capella, etc. (and get well paid to do it) but you have to DIG to find information on all the established research universities offering great programs at half the cost (I suppose they could start advertising like the others do, but then those prices would have to go up!) So in my thinking, I hope only to get people to do the digging, see what will serve them best, and help to overcome some of the hype that multimillion dollar ad campaigns can drum up. I hope you don't see any of that as in any way intellectually dishonest or unethical; I don't. And when someone finally gets a fully accredited program online for FREE, you'd better believe I'll be touting that too!
Live2Learn - I admit I find it disconcerting that you are so determined to convince me that my chosen degree path - one I spent months researching and am enthusiastically thrilled about - is somehow a "bad choice" for me. I feel 100% it is perfect for me. The courses are AMAZING. The teachers are great, my fellow students are all 35-45, live primarily in my state, and have amazing managerial experiences that are helping me daily as we specifically talk about manager communication, employee relations, and other detailed issues. I have not found this combination of things ANYWHERE else in any of my networking groups, seminars, or anything else. I did not find this combination of course timing, online experience, student body makeup and and specific course topics *anywhere* else on the web in a fully online program.

I am absolutely thrilled with what I am getting. I cannot state highly enough how happy I am with every day of classes - I enthusiastically jump into the online forums to see what new things I can learn.

It is a little depressing to keep coming to this forum and finding you trying to tell me I made a bad choice, as if I am NOT getting absolutely what I want out of my experience. Which I am. How could you possibly make that decision for me?
This is an interesting discussion to follow. IN my case, I went to the school of my choice - Prescott College - and have a degree in Conservation Biology (with an emphasis in Geology), with minors in Journalism and Psychology.

I loved school so much that a few years AFTER getting my degree I missed the school environment and signed up for two years at an excellent local college, just to take science classes for fun. I took the hardest, most intense science courses available and got a 4.0 GPA - with no other desire for further gain in life skills or income. I went ONLY to enjoy myself in an intense learning environment that covered biology in its many awesome forms.

My teachers never quite understood why I was back in school for no actual goal-related reason, but since I was enthusiastic in classes, helpful to other students, and obviously showing a great deal of joy in the information I was gaining, they loved me.

I went on to be a journalist. And yes, i am still paying off the school debt from that time. But I would still do it again, and again. It was wonderful! It was what I wanted to do with my time and energies.

So my POV is that if Lisa wants to enroll in ANYTHING, then YAY for her. If anyone wants to pursue knowledge in any form, YAY!
Live2learn -
I'm curious, do you think that there is anything more to a degree than the schools reputation and the piece of paper? Is there any reason why you'd pay more, or recommend paying more, than the cost of the cheapest accredited program?

As I said earlier, I'm paying twice what I could have at a school with better name recognition and debatably better "extra" accreditation (there are multiple organizations that accredit CS-type degrees depending on the focus) because it better meets my needs. I'm half way through my program and completely satisfied with the decision I've made.

Julie
Julie that's awesome that you are so happy with your path!

Jilly that's great that you had so much fun immersing yourself in great biology classes!
What I always think is that I can make suggestions to people or state my opinion about something but that I have to respect their decisions that they make for themselves. No one can know what the best program is for someone else nor when they have paid too much for it. My values are different from your values so I will choose a different program than you at a higher or lower cost depending on exactly what I want from the program. It is true that there may be another program that offers exactly what I want at a better price. However, if I spend time researching before making the decision and don't happen to come across such a program, that doesn't make my program choice any less valuable to me.
A free accredited program would be great in some ways but I would expect that many people would start and drop out of it and /or not put a lot of effort into it. That seems to be what people often do when they don't pay for something. It would probably disrupt the class interaction and positive atmosphere that had been or was in the process of being developed. So, as with everything in life, there are advantages and disadvantages and we can only choose what is most suitable for us at a given time.
@Lisa, I don't think I did, and certainly am not now, trying to tell you what is best for you. I see most of what I've said to be offering the harder-to-find, less advertised information about substantially similar or better (from my perspective) programs at a lower cost. When I posted my 'recommendation' to you a while back, it was based on your precise and stated goals for your education. Further, I had not yet read your post about having made your decision and enrolling at Northeastern. I am glad you are happy with it, and I do not criticize their program or your choice to enroll in it one way or another. I do, however, believe that for many looking at online education money is a very big factor, and the for-profits are excellent advertisers, so offering options from well-reputed schools is perhaps a bit of a mission for me right now. @Julie, Absolutely! Other big factors are the student experience, quality of education (pragmatic value of the skill-set, etc.), learning style (pedagogical preferences), proximity, support, job placement abilities of the institution and community preferences (diversity, network, alumni involvement, etc.) Other students' experiences provide a good read of what your experience might be, and that is a big advantage to the for-profits. The communities of online learners in the schools I've referred to are certainly smaller and more varied, and thus more difficult to find. Outside that experience, I believe that a school's reputation is largely based on the quality of its educational offerings, and while no measure is perfect, I think that it is one of the most reliable indicators of whether you will be provided the best possible opportunity to get a solid, well-grounded and practical education that will translate effectively into the workplace, whatever that may be. And as I said above, cost is a factor for many of us. So again, they are not the only factors in choosing education, but they are the two biggest ones that I can use to assess ANY school while trying to avoid the influence of big money advertising campaigns.
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