I'm curious to see if anyone else has a feeling as to which way the elections/economy/environment are heading. I don't usually focuss on politics unless I get a dream I can't shake but I've been getting impressions lately regardless.

For me personally, I see or feel Obama will be elected, but it makes my heart race like a jack rabbit. I can't quite figure this out unless the impact will be outstanding in that specific type of energy itself as a result of simply being elected. Right now, specifically at this point, I'm not sensing anything note-worthy outside of the election, just a lot of energy. I see him having grey hair, which I am wondering if that isn't symbolic of an ill-preparedness (is that a word?) because it seems the election is cut short possibly? I go back and forth on this. I am wondering if this isn't indicative of another Kennedy era. Does anyone else pick up anything?

The Wright person, I sense something having to do with the heart, either just problems in general with it or a heart attack at some point.

I sense continued food shortages and people needing to learn to some extent anyway an ability to prepare their own, just in general, like baking or growing, etc. something? I can't see how far down the line this is, but for me, I'm starting now. I also see land more than house being benefitial, especially one with a private water source. I'm thinking possible this is a sense of how to ride out the wave as comfortably as possible?

I've heard other people speaking of riots, etc. I'm not there yet though. I do sense inter-city type riots or more of them I'd say moving further outside of their primal areas.

I'm not sensing the economy corrects itself and even if the housing market allows for a house you might not have considered before-hand, still keep to a frugal hand regardless even if you feel pressured to get something more. Something happens, even if it's a bargain, in the future, maybe house/land tax that makes it very difficult to support based on appearance.

I also see more and more earth quakes and not in the norm/typical regions we might think of having them. Seems like the earthquake are leading up to something a change or exposure to something we did not consider or know about.

More and more people become independant of the Gov. in some manner and it follows more is exposed about it to the general public than before.

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Phyllis spoke of increased earthquake activity near her area in this week's newsletter. Just yesterday, I got one of my weird "hoarding" sensations, similar to those I had prior to the Oklahoma City Bombing. I'm a bit confused, as I haven't had a "gloom and doom" sensation since May 2000 and had hoped the precognition of airplane crashes and terrorist bombings part of my "gift" had been rescended. But my mind has been wondering at unusual moments to questions such as "how many candles do we have? how long could I make the food in the house last?"

The heavyness I have felt on my shoulders with past precognitive episodes is there, but not as bad. I think we all need to pay close attention to our surroundings and hunches, and share any tidbits of information that might come to us. If we can combine our gifts, maybe we can piece some things together.

I generally don't talk politics, but I'm apprehensive about Obama. This doesn't have anything to do with the negative press he's received lately. It started when he announced his inclusion in the presidential race, long before I knew anything about him. Apprehensive is the best way to describe it, and exactly why or what I'm apprehensive about, I can't put my finger on it.

Apprehensive is the perfect word icp! My head pinches in the temples, my heart races and I'm short of breath when I look to this person. It's mostly felt in my head, though. I've not followed him per se but my fiance listens to a radio station that does and he will usually come to me and say, "Ye or nay" when I do feel something. It helps me pinpoint what's going on w/me.

I think for now I'm just greatful I can speak freely on the topic here while I'm trying to sort through everything. It just feels like an all hell breaks loose, upcoming.

I have to stress though, this is not "the end of the world" type thing, but it does seem that in the end there is but 5 people standing in the Gov. I dont' know that I'm around to see it though. I Have no idea what that's all about and think I'm pretty content not knowing, really.

Honestly, it feels none are prepared to handle the presidency as it stands, it feels more like an egotistical movement more than anything. Maybe some slight necessary changes are met, but that's about it, nothing significant.

I have the same food-counting candle shortage thing you've got going on too. It's been gaining in strength these past couple years. I don't know if this helps but there are dates, like 2012, 2013, 2017, 2025, 20027, 2038, 2042 or 53, like mile markers? Ten years ago I told my sister to put $3000 in a cookie jar somewhere, something happens in the 2000-teens - could be dispensing of cash or something - she's corporate but she's doing it.

I also had a dream that a head of lettuce was $2.38. In the dream I reached for it thinking it was .99 and put it back - decided to grow my own, but I do that now anyway, so I haven't a clue.

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Has anyone heard of a darkness coming at some point in time in the future? I had an awful dream lastnight and normally, when it feels like an experience, often it reflects something of relevence.

Anyway, it seemed like what I can ony try to describe as overcast-like, but it wasn't a useful haze like the foretelling of a storm front and it wasn't pitch black either. But everything was darker and it seemed to effect everything - people, growing things, etc.

Buildings were downtrodden, unkept or broken. There was running water, but people seemed to grab it where they could, mostly in out-buildings. Just curious.

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Hi Eleise,

Perhaps you were astraling to Western Australia. I can't remember how long ago lettuces were only 99c here. I paid $2.99 yesterday, and we have been told to expect more fresh fruit and veggie price increases in the near future.

I kmow this is off topic, but I'm curious as to why you see Obama winning as not a good thing...or have I interpreted it wrongly? I thought it would be a good thing and it seemed from the news over here that a very large percentage of Americans do as well.

Sikpiksie

A lot of times feelings are going to be controversial and often won't go along with the general public.

At least in this perspective, the feeling I get with Obama is that it's not that it's a bad thing per-se, it's just not the good thing that people are seeing on the surface or expecting. Pre-mature, maybe? The sacrifice seems well worth the while, even in the future, when I look to this person. Sacrifice, seems to be a significant word. It comes up again and again - I could take this a few different ways, but for now it's just a word, or I'm making it one

The politically correct thing would be to say, that it's time for change and everything is going to fall into place and unite. I simply do not get that by any means in the matter, though there will be some changes. Change alone, by itself isn't inherently good or bad. There are consequences and no substance to the change itself unless you know exactly what it is that is going to be the change. Obama speaks change, it may not be the "change" the good of the country is needing during these times.

When it comes to him, it's hard to breathe and swallow and my head tingles as to what I do feel.

Every few days I check in as to why, what is the crisis so to speak. I'm just not a political person, so I try to move past this??? I will keep updating though...I just had to write somewhere. I really dislike, I know I said this already..lol, but politics and religion and debates. To me we're all wrong and a little right

Again, bad - I don't know is the term I'd use. I'm not sensing anything like Hitler...or another world war, at least not as of yet, but these are pre-election feelings and I'm resistant to them anyway. There will be a close threat to home, actually a lot of them.

Again, this person isn't prepared and knows they are not prepared. But, it's one of those things where I feel I can't turn back now and I run off of the energy I feel from others. My guess would be a responsibilty for the african american population? There is a lot of emotion with this man and NOT a lot of clear thinking. I don't have the words I'm looking for.

He will have disruptions with the female he is with as well - as if she feels it is her time to shine, kind of thing and pushes passionately...like a bottle when you shake it up and pop the top. Don't you just love symbolics?? It won't work for him though.


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It's strange you listed 2012 as the first date in your previous post. I've known of the Mayan calendar ending abruptly on 12/21/12 for years. Wow, this is the first time I have ever typed the date in that format and it looks/feels really weird. My 1st impression is binary numbers, such as those used for computers. (Have no clue where that came from)

What little of the writings from Central American which escaped the bonfires of the Spanish Monks do reference the end of the 4th world and beginning of the 5th world. The Hopi also have prophecy including 2012 as do several other prophecies. Some TV shows have theorized a meteor or comet affecting Earth that year and there are identified ones with coinciding trajectories. The un-identified ones worry me a bit.

I have sensed something for that year, or maybe pondered would be a better word. I have no explanation as to why a calendar, more accurate than the one we use today, including adjustments for the 20,000 year cycle of polar wobble, would just END after 5,000 years. I fear the answer was reduced to ashes.

The one source I haven't heard of any connections to 2012 is from the libraries of Edgar Cayce. I don't know if there aren't any, or if they are just not telling. But I feel sure someone must have looked into it.

I hate to sound foreboding, but this weekend, I cleared out some shelf space and we began stocking up on canned goods (they were on sale). I've also talked with my husband about doing some canning this summer, or at least learning how.

My sense is "preparation" and "attentiveness" but I have no clue as to what for. Yet, while I prepare and pay attention, I will not change my life any more than that at this time. It's just too short and I'm going to enjoy every minute I can.

I know what you mean about not wanting to sound foreboding. I've found people have to be in the mood to hear about "change" and when you sense things, the sense itself isn't to be a bummer it's simply preparation. You would take the same kind of care before a test or trying something new, you know?

I wish it would be better understood, it isn't the end of the world kind of thing but more, the sense I get anyway, if you want to make things easier on yourself and people who can learn from you, begin, begin, begin, begin now, learing how to do things for yourself, such as growing, canning (like you mention), have a back up plan for electical outages, blankets, candles, etc. Pay attention to your parents or grandparents who can tell you how they did it. It can really be fun too.

It's funny you mentioned canning too. Last year I felt compelled to learn it...like a itch you can't scratch until you do. I'm not that domestic either but felt, especially in baby food, do it yourself. I don't have a baby and take into consideration learning about herbal remedies/homeopathy.

Last year, I recycled every bit of compost I could (it felt like a trial run so to speak), dried seeds and dehydrated fruits so that I could learn to grow on practically nothing. Im not OC but I have to say, in this aspect I was going through garbage salvaging things other people in the household would throw away. Then I'd catch myself and say, "Drop it...drrroOOppp iT!" lol.

I started acting this way (hard-core), about 3 years ago.

I don't read a lot about predictions, so I'm appreciative there is some kind of affirmation from your end. I always felt the things I sensed would be tainted if I started reading what others were saying. I will read for support, like profiles on other, real mystics and psychics, like cayce, nostrdomous, st. john of the cross , to keep grounded.

The 2012/2013 thing: Really, it felt like the end of 2012 into 2013. It's not the end of the world though, but it seems the beginning of something and transition? 2025 seems big too. I don't care for that year too much or 2027. They both feel very very serious.

All this stuff passes. That's important to note, we go on. And there is verification of life on other planets.

As far as housing goes, land is more important than house and one with an independant water source if you can get it. Meaning even if it's a teny tiny house but with land, that's good

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Did you watch the Mystery of the Crystal Skulls on last night? It went into some detail on the 12/21/12 issue, connecting the Mayan Crystal Skulls with the calendar end. It was a pretty good show, what I caught of it.

It's funny, but I did to some extent. What I caught of it as welll

I clicked on it going, "No way, we were just talking about this on Bella." So, I thought I should watch.

I thought it was interesting.

What do you think aobut the 13 skulls needing to come together?

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From a scientific view, quartz is a very unique and multifaceted rock. It has so many properties, probably some we don't yet know about. The stones used in the building of Machu Picchu are a high percentage of quartz. I feel the stone chosen to make the skulls is a big part of the puzzle.

Until watching the show, I did not know about the legend of there being 13 of them somewhere on Earth. 13 is such a significant number in so many of our cultures, that may be another puzzle piece.

So much of the Mayan and Aztec knowledge has been lost, but a good bit is being recovered. I just hope modern science will become more open to investigating the legends. There are kernels of truth in them we need to know, even more so now.

As to the legend stating the skulls need to come together, the power that could represent is both intriguing and a bit scary. However, these objects have been revered as holy for several eons. That tends to reassure me their power is of a positive source. Their remaining scattered until needed ensures no one person may wield that power. It may well be a human is not needed at all for the skulls to do the job they were created for.

As I learn of legends and prophecies from different cultures, isolated completely before our Age of Communication, the similarities constantly amaze me. It's as if we have some type of genetic memory shared by all humans. It's been theorized that elephants have a genetic memory, in they will return to past watering holes which had dried up many years before their birth.

Could it be a "human" genetic memory some of us can tap into? I do believe in reincarnation, but I feel this is something much broader.

I've wondered this about the Bible. I grew up Catholic but felt as if the bible depicted almost a cyclicle realm of human nature and events while addressing the spiritual aspect we need to get intouch with more.

Kind of like history repeating itself?

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Someone told me Hilary Clinton made reference to the Kennedy assassination and Obama. I finally found an animated video on Utube but I don't know the specifics.

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In my tiny little world I step out of fear. The new president has nothing to do with my spirituality or anything to do with the outcome of anything that really matters. If I lived according to the dictates of this visual I would have withered away ages ago. I believe in myself and I believe in people. Mrs. Jode's last statement in the movie Grapes of Wrath were something like this," They cant stop us, they can't keep us down, we keep going forward, cuz we're the people! In the movie she may not have represented the most spiritual of personages but her statements are and forever will be unstoppable! Just my tiny thoughts.

humm well i just saw a video poll in pollclash about McClellan has raised many issues with his new book WHAT HAPPENED that has led to strong criticism from the Republicans and a lot of questions from the media.to see who do you think is more credible enough,, humm well im a democratic person but i must stay neutral to this.... Who's Right? Who's Credible?

What do you think?

I think I have more of a handle on the energy/feelings I had initially picked up about the election.

In my world, anyway, assasination just simply never comes to mind and is never an answer. I just don't think of it period. I find it difficult to kill an innocent bug walking accross the wall or something.

Apparently assasination and even some speculating Obama being the antichrist is actually out there - sensing this type of energy bothers me greatly.

There is also energy about race, regardless what people say or protest. On a physical note, it would be ovious and a time for celebration. Too much emphasis, it feels has a hand in this and seems to up an ante of some sort...not the coming together like everyone is hoping for including myself. There is an expectation on this person that isn't real.

I still sens, very much so, this person is ill-prepared in that, their ideas and what actually transpires conflict. Insurmountable ego feels at stake from all directions. I see blotches of it, so I'm interpreting it as in groups, countries, organizations, etc. Again this is probably obvious, but I won't normally be taken in this line of attention - usually these things don't concern me. This seems to effect everyone though.

Russia comes to mind - brain blurp (don't know why).

Entrpeneurs do well, especially those building from the ground up with networkers doing the same. This will help off-set the economy. There will be a group of people regardless of what's going on "out there" that keep to the grindstone. These will be the flourishing types.

Food wise - people start growing more of their own and learning more about herbal or bio-chemestry.

A new generation of children will come into the world. They will help pick up the pieces basically. They won't be of the spoiled - hand me - generation. They will waste little and many will study or feel complelled to the enviroment, biology, etc. You will know them, they will pay attention to the tiniest detail in nature and have a handle on things beyond their years.

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[quote=Eleise - Clairvoyance]I think I have more of a handle on the energy/feelings I had initially picked up about the election.

In my world, anyway, assasination just simply never comes to mind and is never an answer. I just don't think of it period. I find it difficult to kill an innocent bug walking accross the wall or something.

Apparently assasination and even some speculating Obama being the antichrist is actually out there - sensing this type of energy bothers me greatly.

There is also energy about race, regardless what people say or protest. On a physical note, it would be ovious and a time for celebration. Too much emphasis, it feels has a hand in this and seems to up an ante of some sort...not the coming together like everyone is hoping for including myself. There is an expectation on this person that isn't real.

I still sens, very much so, this person is ill-prepared in that, their ideas and what actually transpires conflict. Insurmountable ego feels at stake from all directions. I see blotches of it, so I'm interpreting it as in groups, countries, organizations, etc. Again this is probably obvious, but I won't normally be taken in this line of attention - usually these things don't concern me. This seems to effect everyone though.

Russia comes to mind - brain blurp (don't know why).

Entrpeneurs do well, especially those building from the ground up with networkers doing the same. This will help off-set the economy. There will be a group of people regardless of what's going on "out there" that keep to the grindstone. These will be the flourishing types.

Food wise - people start growing more of their own and learning more about herbal or bio-chemestry.

A new generation of children will come into the world. They will help pick up the pieces basically. They won't be of the spoiled - hand me - generation. They will waste little and many will study or feel complelled to the enviroment, biology, etc. You will know them, they will pay attention to the tiniest detail in nature and have a handle on things beyond their years.

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Hi Bluemoonclouds, welcome,

I had forgotten I wrote about Russia on this. That was back in June. The countries, Obama, etc. some of the pieces are coming into place.

I can not stress enough, the "Coming together" isn't what the campaign claims it to be. Not on any level. It's just something that claims to be untried as of yet. There is a separate agenda - for certain on this!

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A.) I'm fairly certain, this is war of sorts, here in the lands



B.) Biden



C.) Radical/extreme groups associated w/Obama - his financing is of huge issue here. Used in some fashion as in not taking gov't/ public funds, in actuality funds in equivelence 10 fold from these sources. Undisclosed, at this point. This effects discussions of mediation and action with other countries



D.) Michelle Obama's attitude-softening make-over.





E.) Russia/Georgia. Russia does not go away. USA surrounded by outside influence - strategic in making

The good news is, refering the old saying, it gets worse before it gets better. It does get better. The positive of the people will withstand - those who are positive will continue to build. Those who fall prey to the entanglement will go down w/the rest. Letting go of the old and preparing for the new, comes to mind after the dark days.

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Wow Elleise, that sounds pretty dead on. Any tips on what to do (as a middle- class American) to prepare for the coming storm?

I am not very Clairvoyant, but from a logical standpoint, and from a person who follows politics very closely, I can say that we are about to see something bad that most people will not believe until they live through it.

I think it's important to point out, that we have high times and low times. It's a composite. Precognitions aren't to shock people or tell of doom and gloom, but should be anyway, used for helpful preparations. Everything rebounds...

1.) For one, attitude has a great deal to do with how people will be effected. Trust YOU have an ability to change things, especially in proximity to home and family.

2.) In all honesty I feel people already know something is coming. I think this is why we are so desperate for change. But consider someone under medical emergency in the home, panicking and just grabbing any bottle in the medicine cabinet or drowning and you just reach for anythinhg to keep afloat, even if it's another person. These days have no quick and immediate fix. Look past, lumping feelings generically into one category such as stress or job so that personal empowerment will have more of an impact close to the home. I feel the whole family will need to pull together.

3.) Cut back - way back! Even if you think you already are, go back in and reasess. If you have to go out to eat, look for those 5 for 5.95 deals. Go out to the lake or a scenic drive for the ambiance if you're used to the catering of a sitdown meal. If you know you have to buy something new, electronics, outfits etc. every week, knock it off. The household provider(s) will appreciate it greatly, even if it's you.

4.) Self-discipline. Pay for items in cash. Once you're out, you're out.

5.) Residual income feels important. Get paid for something you're good at.

6.) Tell the kids, "NO." Even if it hurts, you may think going without so the kids can have their extras is helping the bigger picture but it doesn't. Let the keeping up w/the Jones's slide. You will be all the more suave for having done so. If there's peer pressure, other parent's incomes are hurting as well. Know that you know.

7.) Now that fall is here, practice growing inside. Dry seeds, try different herbs, see what works and doesn't work so you have the knowledge for next spring.

8.) Bring excitement in the house so you don't have to go out. The temptation to spend will be less. Try a new language or new flavor for dinner. Pretend you are traveling, have floor picnics. Kids will love it.

9.) Land more than home seems to be important. One with it's own private water source. Terrorist attacks will increase. Identities will have a problem tracking.

10.) Don't believe the headlines. If you feel you're hitting a recession, go with it. Don't wait for someone else to tell you.

The gov't will claim to be able to fix our problems, I see little for this in the near future. I see entrepenures aiding the economy however. I see more companies going overseas.

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Trepidatious - that's the best word I can use to describe my feelings right now. In previous elections, I have experienced flashes when seeing candidates on TV. Unfortunately these are not positive in nature.

It really has nothing to do with party affiliations, as I try very hard to focus on the person running for election.

With Obama, I've had those "flashes" but also some really weird thoughts, images, and feelings "creeping" upon me. I'm trying very hard to be objective, but finding it more and more difficult.

The weird thoughts, images, and feelings are a bit similar to those I experienced prior to the Oklahoma City Bombing, and I have absolutely no clue as to why. I'm not a "Doomsdayer" but I'm actively planning and preparing for some hard times, and again, not really sure why.

As far as the economy, we've all got to get off our behinds and make changes. It's just common sense to Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle. No clairvoyance needed there. I think of it as "Inter-Independence," that is relying on ourselves, our families and our friends, and not waiting for Uncle Sam to come in and take care of problems. This type of independence is what made our Country so strong, and I think it's a huge step in getting us through hard times which may be coming.

OK, I'm off the soap box

I so agree with these words! We cannot just sit in our homes and hope that the people in office do the right thing. We are an important part of the changes in our country and if we do nothing then we have no reason to complain.

As far as seeing or sensing psychically what is ahead, I, too, have trepidations and an uneasy feeling. I just pray that all turns out well for the benefit of our country and economy.

Well put ICP. Regardess who becomes the next president, these issues won't be going away anytime in the near future. The people that feel the govt will sweep in and save the day will be the ones hit the hardest.

The deal with Obama feels like the energy I get when a little kid wants 3 candybars in one sitting. It sounds just wonderful and there is some taste there, but the after effects leave something less than desired.

I still feel he is elected and I feel this is a "race" driven race. A step in the light for African Americans. It feels simply emotionally driven and nothing more. I also feel and I hate to say this, it's something that feels short lived. I feel i want a back up plan with this and something else going on unbeknownst to Obama. Something someone else is counting on in the house. More war too...I just hate this . Together it will be faired though

Really, everyone taking as much responsibility in their own hands in regards to their own surroundings makes the greatest mark. The famous "Ask not what your gov't can do for you but what you can do..." (JFK) comes to mind.


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Eleise,
Reading your post, the word I've been searching for FINALLY came to me. You touched on it. The word is UNDER-CURRENTS.

Maybe the reason I'm feeling so trepidatious is that I'm sensing under-currents around Obama. As you put it, "something else going on unbeknownst."

It really clicked in me this is the source of the weird feelings creeping upon me. There's something back there, and I can't really put my finger on it. I've had speculations which I've voiced with my husband. But being only speculations, they don't bear repeating. The rumor mill certainly has enough fuel.

My concern is that we, as a Country, pick the best person, not personality, for the job. As for Obama's possible election being a "Step in the light for African Americans," I think it should be a "Step in the light for ALL Americans." It's been 4 decades since Martin Luther King spoke of not judging one by the color of their skin, but by their character.

This is expecially pertinent for me. My family is Native American, White American, African American, and with my cousin's adoption of a beautiful little girl from China, Asian American as well. We ARE the American Melting Pot, so above all, we are Americans.

I fully realize not all families are as diverse as mine, and that this presidential election does include racial elements. I just wish we could get beyond that and concentrate on who will be best for America.

Undercurrents - Wonderful word. Now that there's a starting point, do you get anything more? This is one of the areas I teach on focus and accuracy. It's the hardest I think.

When I'm mustering around for that one thing - it's so irritating, it's like you just have this itch you can't scratch for the longest time. It hangs around until I hit something relevant and miraculously the smoky curtain begins to part, as I call it, and on w/the show.

Something else,...I think I posted in the republican forum, (BTW I don't favor either party, I just happen to get a lot of energy from Obama) that I felt neither candidate was really ready for the job at hand and that the person who was, was not in the lime light. This will probably sound nuts, but after 20 + years of this I should be used to it, lol. Palin, to me anyway, feels more substantial than Mccaine. Haven't a clue what that means and as for women's issues, more feels that it will be accomplished through Palin, over Obama. In all honesty, if there were three candidates, I would consider seriously, Palin. i still get radical, FINANCIAL, ties w/Obama and terrorists. People will see it as hes trying to end wars. It has to do w/money more than peace. It feels something hasn't been exposed that will be - this feels quite strong...not just the back and forth quibbling of two parties fighting. (i can just tell I'll be editing this. I'm all over the place, lol)

I stay out of the gossip trends but for when someone comes to me say in a reading or just conversation. Idon't know the whole scoop on any of the candidates right now. I think it would suade my judgement. For myself though I still can't interpret the, "short-lived" part w/Obama, I still feel the "house" has another agenda for him as well as he for his presidency. I'm not sure if he starts out strong and fades or is elected and removed.

I agree whole and true-heartedly with "race" in this country. Really, it's something that only holds the person back holding on to it. Everyone is beautiful unless they go out of their way not to be.

My fiance has his own business so we travel anywhere from CA to NY and I pay attention. This is what I see in all of the states that we've been in. People are getting along. White, black, oriental, hispanic, asian, arab. There really doesn't seem to be, "the issue" out there that outspoken people say there is. It's almost as if there are some people who want to keep it going and the majority have gotten over it already and embrace life instead of condeming it.

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The people who seem to want to keep racial issues to the forefront I refer to as pot-stirrers. They have to keep the pot stirred to keep the donations for their organizations coming in. Thus it appears they are doing good work to fight racial injustice. Sometimes the focus they place on these "racial injustices" only garnishes the opposite of their goal.

I'm from SC and remember well the NAACP's fight to get the Confederate flag removed from the top of the Capital Building. The Govenor "relented" to the demands and removed it from the top of the Capital building, where no-one could actually see it without binnoculars. They then placed it on a flag pole at the Confederate Memorial on the grounds. Now everyone can see it from their car. Nothing really came from all the threats of protests, marches, and boycotts, except the NAACP undoubted received many contributions to support their efforts, and the State of SC spent quite a bit on lawyers.

Personally, I think everyone lost something in this situation, except those who sell confederate flags, as people were scarfing them up and displaying them all over the place. The whole thing ended up ticking off a bunch of people on both sides of the issue.

I hadn't thought of it like that before, but I guess you're right. If they only have one source of income and it's hate driven then revamping that hate would kind of work for them a bit like a fund driver > that just saddens me.

No wonder people walk around w/chips on their shoulers. They're lead by example.

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I totally beg to differ. The more we pretend that racial issues don't exist, the more out of control they become. It's the kind of focus you put on it that separates the "pot-stirrers" from people who want to change it. The current "pot-stirrers" you seem to be referring to are the black activists like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, who want to keep the toxic victimology philosophy alive by riling up the inner city black population.

What someone like Obama wants to do, and it keeps getting warped by the republican media, is to be over with the non-productive victimology and start moving in a direction that will uplift these communities, by showing them that they can switch their focus onto making their lives better. It's like introducing the positive effects of Law of Attraction to a community that has used it to keep themselves in a dark and angry place for many decades. Some of these communities are rebelling against Obama because he expects them to start owning up to their own part in getting wedged into stuck place they now inhabit in society. He wants to turn a switch on within their communities, and get them feeling like they can be something better. Obama has also included the Native American population, not just blacks. He wants to eradicate the never ending spiral of guilt and repentance that impoverished communities and the US government have been enlessly circling around in. How is this a terrible thing? I think it's better than what is going on now, and gaining force.

Honestly, if Elleise's visions are correct about the uprising from the black community, the above would more than likely be the reason why. But so what? Let them have their temper tantrums. That's what spoiled brats do when they don't get their way. They'll get over it. Change isn't easy sometimes. Most great changes in history have come with a lot of noise. But the rewards can be amazingly freeing.

Shay

I'm not sure where this is going but... (cracking of knuckles)

Questions and topics coming from the outside help a lot. I can take my "stuff" and direct it, otherwise it's kind of like looking at a buffet from an arial view and trying to describe it.

First, if this is needing to be talked about, I don't have visions/feelings of specifically the black community rising up. Not in a positive way, nor negative. The brats stay the brats, the people inside the communities as well as role models, good and bad, aid or hinder the changes needing to be made. There's a reason for this. The energy is being used in argument and very little else. It's going to come down to this....I see a window of about 10 years. Of this 5 or 6 have already been used. The window is something like - black is in...I don't have the words - it's different (in media alone - this is IMPORTANT) it's false attention. The majority don't have an issue w/color. After this trend, they sink or swim just like every and ANY color out there. The feeling I get is the majority sink and it is out of laziness. This can change only if the following...

The boad and speedy change that is desired,comes from each taking responsibility and working together in unison, not out of resentment. I don't feel they can see this as it's almost like they feel they are letting an aspect down, should they go forward in a positive manner. Specifically, it feels to me, only on this subject, that it continues this way for more years than I am alive, regarless of champaign. I can't even go down that route or I'll never come back up for air. Again, their specific empowerment can only come from within. The more positive they are the quicker the change. Significant change, can come speedily, instead of waiting for someone else, black or white. This is just in the air in addition to other things globaly at this time.

I think when I was refering to a step up for the African americans, it was in reference to the primal drive, and this includes the woman Obama is with, "their focus" - but it has a negative twain to it. It doesn't feel I go forward in my optimal self within this campaign. This anger ties in w/radical groups, and angry current, which then piggy backs on to terroristic territories? Ties? It has not been verified just how deeply his ties go. Much of this will lie in funding. He will appear not to take govt money for himself, while being secretly funded by these groups. These are just feelings, not affirmed. Have to stress this.

This leads me to my feelings on upcoming war. I don't feel war goes away. In my soul I beleive most people, in most countries do not desire war or support it in the name of blood alone. It stands though, we are a country. Countries have armies. Whether we take ours down or not, the wars at stake continue but now on an extremist level. It feels threat is now closer to home than it has ever been since a major world war. I am against war. I feel this none the less. It litterly feels to me we are at a boiling point and the hatred, comes at me across waters. It is in the process as we speak. The wars come strategically at a time "this" force knows us to be weak or distracted as a whole. I am absolutely certain of this!

This brings me back to race. Because the focuss will be on these types of issues, we go into this at a disadvantage. I am still feeling we head into a recession. I feel Obama, because of his focus, he is less than able to handle what is coming this way.

I am not sold on either candidate at this time. There is more, let me regroup. Part of this will have to do w/Mcain and Palin. I do feel for the time being, though, not certain as to why, Palin feels stronger than Mcain. I know that's not politically correct and it has to do w/the types of changes we can see.

Like I said, I need to regroup and probably edit this...lol

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Hi Elleise,

I didn't mean to exhaust you, I'm sorry! When I made reference to your racial upheaval predictions, I was remembering your post in the Women's Issues Forum on Obama's race. You said:

"I see a Civil War headed this way, along side of a broader one. It something I haven't wanted to face in over a decade, but it's here."

When you said "Civil War", in a thread talking about Obama's potential presidency, it really sounded like you were talking about a domestic racial upheaval, in conjunction with outside influences.

There have been rumors about Obama's support from al-Qaida. But to be truthful, there have been severe allegations about Bush's connection with Bin Laden (leader of the al-Qaida, who attacked us on 9/11) for some time, now, in reference to his starting the war against Saddam in Iraq. And Reagan's people sold arms to Iraq. Secret political connections with "the enemy" have been around for a long time. Not that you need to justify it to me, or anyone, but I'm wondering what Obama has to do with the war intensifying should he become president? Do you have specific feelings on this? As I understand it, he wants to change the course of America, and that is his focus, and he specifically selected Biden for his foreign policy knowledge, yet Palin didn't even know what the Bush Doctrine was...I agree that she has more energy around her, as McCain has put her in the lime light...

Anyway, I don't want to put you on the spot. I'm just trying to take all of this in...

Shay

Hi Shay -

No exhaust, truly. All in a day's work. The irony is it's exhausting feeling it and not having pieces fall into place or having words to express it. Like many of the people who post here, in the beginning, it's feelings and a bunch of garbled visions, pictures, ect. and it has no cocept of time. Everything intercects and hits you in what we call "real-time" but with the added benefit of not distinguishing (at first) past, present and future. You have to go back in to sort it out and interpret.

Thanks for reminding me too, where I post,lol. When I pop on here, I get imagaes or feelings and if we have internet at a stop we're making I hurry up and try to post. It's hard to go back.

So, I think I have the rest of the election interpretation - post, it may sound - well, I'll leave it up to the folks who follow politics to maybe fill in the blanks for me. The words I use may be harsh or extreme, If there's accuracy, it will feel like a punch in the stomach. That's the best way I can put it. Here goes...(makin a new post)

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Somewhere, I posted something about the Clintons knowing more than what they let on - Not that Hilary, especially, isn't for women's issues, but that's not the "primal" agenda I'm getting from her, right now. I feel first and foremost, she had/has visions of being president and hasn't let go of that. She will say and do (and I mean anything) anything to make this happen or something close to it...possibly VP? Though she is of the same party of Obama, it feels like arch enemies between the two, regarless if they rally in favor of him.

I get the feeling, micro-managing (??). There are people, I sense, that are in charge of a type of seek and destroy mission on her behalf. It involves quick phone calls and tag words, possibly even page-coding (is that a word?). You know the movies where you are either in the circle, out or dead. Bill just feels like he follows along. She's never really come to the forefront w/me before...I feel gears turning.

Obama's - it feels he doesn't so much pick to become president as much, per-se, as they (someone...some group in the gov't - our govt) picked for him to rise to the top specifically at a certain time. He enjoys this. Think of it as a job, or group of people you felt inferior to and come to find out they praise you glory, teachers pet, kind of thing.

(Obama) is a man of specific ego. This is how, why, ties with enemy/radicals - the specific strands of negativity and destruction, gain in re-enforcement and why he won't see as clearly as he could, enemies close to home. His public wording/speaking gets better.

Shay, you mentioned, there was speculation of Bush's involvement w/Al quida (sp?). I've fought long an d hard about this w/my husband. Finally, he asked me straight up if I felt Bush was behind 911 becasue a poll taken saying most people felt he was. I asked if the poll said, did he know about it in advance or did he set it up. He said it asked if he knew in advance. I feel he knew about it in advance BUT didn't set it up. There is someone in NY - a politician who knew more - direct ties. It had to do w/money, a pitance for keeping silent and cashed in on it. The energy feels parallel to the mob kind of stuff Hilary's got going on but I'm not speaking of Hilary. The person lives there or near there. I feel Bush, specifically, had to make a decision of whether or not to react to something prior to. I feel both, the enemy as well as being prepped by his own people, make contact w/him. More people in this country knew about it than we want to know.

There feels to be a triple show behind the show W/Obama. It will sound like he's for the little guy, and I feel minor, very minor changes, but the agenda is really standing out that more of the same continues. He will say, "We all need to pull together." something like that when it happens. His decision making properties w/the enemy will be complicated. He will want to keep favor. The enemy will be comprised of more than one. Possibly one large land and a lot of little lands He WILL NOT, DOES NOT feel OBLIGATED to the U>S>! Not, not, not, not...I am certain of this. This is so very important. He feels taken care of if he takes care of them. They are a part of the "New World" - his world he plans on creating. How much of Hollywood is an illusion? This is the same type, the same river of illusion I see - (?) Titanic comes to mind. The ship was said to do one thing, the people assured to be taken care of but something of another fashion transpires. The show behind this has to do w/the clinton's or their party.

On war - The threats of war continue. They/people are played by arrogant leadership and then emotionally manipulated - like watching a Bears game or boxing match. I dn't feel the mass by their own accounting favor war. In the future here, all races, all sexes, all classes end up reaching for the same hand they may have once held in little regard. So there is some good that comes of this. Group works seems important. I feel now more than ever a kind smile at the groccer mart or while ordering out is a small but powerful movement.

We will see more of the economy, bubbles/air pockets...here in the near future as well. More layoffs, more numbers, more people unable to keep up the appearance of keeping it together. Look to the next 4 months. Another wall falls.

Obama isn't supported in the house like he thinks he is. Everyone plays along for awhile. Maybe a year, maybe 14 months. If he has folly it will be the fall of him. It makes 0 sense right now, but Biden feels week and in all honesty, I felt Obama would have a female VP. I assume I got this wrong because of Palin.

All elections seem important. This one stands out though in the name of change. The campaign is a gimic - no matter which side uses it, - kind of like, "Going green." Everyone will use it because people, all of us are so desperate to see it. We end up revamping priorities, the masses. This is where the change is going to come from. We end up trusting one another again. More people end up distrusting their own govt. I'm not sure if it's housing, but some type of tax ends up crushing a sector. More govt. control on things you'd never think.

Someone mentioned to me about Palin's creationism or christian view and that being a damper. Ask yourself what religious group you affiliate with. How much of that do you take into account every minute of every day you find yourself at work - outside of acknowledgement alone. She doesn't feel fanatical on this. Conversion isn't on the list to do's.

i don't get much on Mccain. He feels weaker than Palin and he feels to be a hot-head. His public voice goes against what I get in his actions. I feel his face turns red a lot.

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McCain is known to be a hot-head, but he's also a very logical person. As to your "notions" of Obama being "propped up" or groomed for this unprecedented elevation in politics, some facts are begining to seep out about that in particular. Elleise, I think you nailed this.

For me it comes back to my sensing "under-currents" swirling around Obama. I do not get that sense with McCain or Palin. As for Biden, what part of Washington in-sider, same ol, same ol is not exemplified in him?

I feel strongly, Obama trusted his advisors and made the safe choice for running mate. To me, this contradicts his message of change. I get no feelings whatsoever when thinking on Biden. It's kinda like he's a blank page, waiting to be written on. I honestly don't feel any energy or impresions emerging from him. That's a weird and disconcerting feeling for me.

I get that exact - litteral feeling on Mccain. I'm not dumping per se, it could have been either party, on Dems, though it could obviously be taken that way. But, noted! The blank page I get too from Mccain, but I get a worse interpretation from Obama. He is NOT real. He has the same feeling as a political leader who has that same "ONE WORLD" feeling; A one man ship, he has no emotional ties w/the US - nothing. I can't stress that enough.

My feelings still stand, back in May, he will probably still be elected unless something drastic were to happen. That is what I feel. I don't feel he is in there long-term, if this happens. He would have more of a chance of longevity, if he went back in for election 4 years from now. I'm not seeing his ego standing for this.

Palin feels legit. Hilary still feels strong. God help us all w/ what we're heading into. It's like the flue. You just have to go through it to get over it. There are lighter days to follow afterwards!

Still in the meantime, network, network, network. Get that foundation of support - a sincere one, going now. This will be weathered

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Hi Elleise,

I have to agree with what you're feeling on Obama, I get that he has no depth..whatever we see and hear come out of his mouth is just on the surface...kinda of like a puppet, his views to me atleast are not his own, nor does he come across as having much substance or even a belief in what he is saying. McCain too has this to a degree, however, like you, I do believe Obama will win the elections.

Additionally, thank you for this forum. It has been nice to finally find a forum where I can talk with other's who are aware of their psychic abilities.

I'm glad you're here Am - thank you for the encouragement/compliment !

Yes, the feeling w/Obama, that's loud and strong, with the public (majority...not everyone) is like little kids who have to have the newest and latest gadget out there - wii ( i personally like those) i-phone, video games, i-pod nano, etc. There is just no discipline in regards to the whim they give themselves on this. I feel like a parent watching another parent catering to this type of thing. They - the people who will vote for Obama, absolutely can't see it.

I stand on this though...he has "0" emotions in regards to the US as a whole. It's incorrect he just wants to change things. I feel I just want to say..."DONT listen to his words because you will want to beleive him" Like a relationship you don't really want to break up with. It's addicting. I don't normally put my Soul on the line like this, but it will feel worse after this happens if I didn't...

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Hi Eleise,

Thanks for the welcome, you can call me Anna. The only feeling I get if Obama is elected is a bad one. I do believe there will be changes, however, not the ones being promised. I don't think he will be able to change much.

Your response reminded me of a great public speaker who can rally the masses, but not bring about the change that is needed in our country. Ofcourse people will want to believe him, he has no prior history, he's awfully young, but he is a great speaker. That's about it! When you have a charismatic speaker, it can be frightening because no one can really see what is being said or not said for that matter. The change is not going to be what people think it is.

Our country does not embrace critical thinking skills, we're not even taught these skills until late high school, no wonder we have people out there who refuse or cannot think for themselves. Aside from my own personal abilities, I still use critical thinking when I am making decisions. Most people do not do this at all...they just "go along to get along" and to me that is not living in any sense of the word!

Take Care,

Anna

Hi Anna,

A great political speaker, hmmmm. There's more. The words, "One World" came to mind in regards with his views and not the touchy feely hand-holding way - more control. I think I also posted I felt his skills in speaking get better, but it's more in the mistakes he makes. There will be a significant difference, between before and after. The race about race becomes more apparent too.

You are correct on the "changes." Whether you vote for Obama or not, I implore - implore people to buckle up. We WILL NOT see the kinds of changes of hope promised. The hope is, maybe he can make us feel better along the way. I hear him say, "We must pull together...during this time..." It's not destitute by any means, but don't go out an celebrate. Slow and steady and think for yourself. Don't believe a majority of headlines, especially the trendy things. I get, whichever way Hollywood goes, believe just the opposite or go research for your self. I feel our gov't will be scrambing in the next few years. More people get educated on what's going on, even the complacent ones. Just keep the proverbial eye on the ball.

This next part I'm not understanding fully right now, but the hear-say is taxes on big co's with Obama. I'm seeing/feeling something different. I keep seeing people who make in the $40,'s and up struggling with something. It is a tax but I'm having difficulty segregating which one. It could be the people who make 40 + in general own homes and there is a property tax or home owners thing that is a chunk. Like, even if you have escrow, it's not enough and it's not just a little here and there. It seems some people will have the money (the more wealthy) and not be affected so much by this tax. They become affected later on, in greater ways, though.

Feelings are also surfacing Hilary is not out of the picture either. The vision I get is Bill is behind her. Her face appears big, like front and center and she is smiling, BUT, and there's a big one. Her gears are turning on something as we speak, actually for almost a month now I've felt that energy stronger; making movement. Like a cat before it devours a mouse. The right eye is squinting (in the vision). I don't get a positive relationship, even if she professes one w/obama.

this is just general, but it seems it helps w/building $100-300 a month for those incedentals. It's like a lot of things end up going up $ wise or continue to and that's the "trigger" so, even if there are some changes, it can't keep up with the retro-effects of what's really going on. A ton of wonderful jobs don't just resurface and we're back at the shops. Smaller businesses, really are what I get that end up growing like a mutual funds- good investments. They are the ones that help significantly.

Anyway, store items on sale in bulk. Ltterally, go get a deep freezer and load up on sales. Store canned foods on sales, find cool places to keep potatoes, onions, flour, etc. Even if you don't cook.

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There has to be some people out there, including myself, that wonder whether or not "precognitions", especially during an election has to do w/promoting a political affiliation. I give my word, in this case, this is not so. I am of no affiliation - truly. I'm not even an undecided, as unpatriotic as that may sound.

People who are meant to hear this/read this and take it for what it is worth, will. Others will discard it.

There is a reason these times in particular are effecting certian people. Emotionally, spiritually, etc. Yes, financially but I'm speaking of those people who have felt disease in daily living which may not otherwise have warranted it. Right now, is the time - that space or time increment between waves. We have time to prepare. Maybe not all of these things can be done all at once, but at least investigate how you could do these things so you know how to when the time comes.

Plot out a garden - litterally. Investigate growing potatoes, onions, lettace, carrotts, tomatoes, herbs.
If there are sales on canned vegatables get them.
If you have the money get a deep storage freezer and stock up.
Get some sides of macarroni and other quick carb sides.
Utilize potatoes and onions.
Purchase boullion.
If you have the option for house buying, get one w/a well.
Start storing wood.
Matches.
Load up on blankets.
Even if you have an automatic opener, get the basic can opener.
Buy candles/karosine, etc.
Start learing how to make breads and rolls, soups, etc.
If you want a fire arm, consider purchasing one. The gov't changes.

Taxes, (on the side taxes) not the reg/ fed - state though there will be increases - large increases becoming, outrageous. Eventually people quit paying and it will be too much for the gov't to keep up with.

The movie - Dead Zone. Watch it!

There will be communities that bond together. There will - WILL be a greater majority that practice - Every man for themselves - this will be.

This will pave for a more even time to follow.

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I'm replying to the earliest post on the economy/election. I couldn't put my finger on the tax situation. I sensed Obama gets elected, but the economy does not correct itself but for some hi's and low's before it pumels.

The tax I couldn't explain had to do with why people in the 40's + see's tax hikes, why the housing industry becomes expensive even in a down market and Obama saying, "Now is the time to pull together...blah, blah..."

The increases are almost presented as dutiful. Like he talks everyone into, this is the right thing to do. This is outside of the "welfare" programs, which just are to be. Their lives don't get better, like they think, there are just more programs available - the money doesn't go to them like they think it will. Not at all. little stipens - that's it.

Imputent taxes on the housing, though. I couldn't explain, why even if you owned your home, it would be expensive. Though Ob ama dosn't come right out and say, $40 + will see a minor increase, he taxes properties - to the point where even if you are given a break of some kind, you end up paying taxes on the amount of money you saved. Like if you were to get a debt discharged. It ends up working almost exactly like that.

Way in the future, but in our time, more and more people stop paying taxes. It will start as more and more, a bit at a time become delinquent in their taxes. it snow balls from there. This is how the welfare society begins to crash. People become laxidasical (sp)about working, the gov. doesn't generate money and slowly people won't afford their taxes. The welfare group doen't pay taxes. They'll be the last to notice or feel they should have to prepare.

You'll be fine/o.k. if you don't follow the crowd. Think the third little pig...

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Elliese,

I was just rereading some of your posts trying to understand this feelings of foreboding I have now about the next few months.

Interestingly, you suggest we watch "The Dead Zone", I read the book many many years ago and did not "get it", I watched the movie and again, did not "get it". Luckily, this is my fiance's favortie book/movie, he completely "gets it". He believe's we are together so that he can teach us how to survive when things change and believe me he is a survivalist, he knows what to do and when to do it! I am not sure where it comes from, but he has it and he is aware, in different ways that I am.

You suggested we buy a firearm, because of my fiance's line of work, we have them already. He just asked me the other day, if I had to pull the trigger, would I hesitate? In all honesty, I replied, if it was to protect me, you or our loved ones, yes I would not hesitate to use it, which is a change for me because I place a high value on ALL human life!

We have the extra freezer and we do stock up, we've been doing that for awhile now.

Again, though what really shook me about your post was the suggestion to watch "The Dead Zone". I still do not completely understand it, I must have some kind of block in my ability to comprehend or understand its message.

Anna

You know, I don't usually go back and read my posts because, if they're visions they create a lot of anxiety in me, especially these days. I just put it out there and utilize my favorite clearing technique - i created in the groccery store, lol...The Swiss Cheese cleansing exercise (in it comes and out it goes through the holes,to the great beyond).

I remember the fire arms vision. what's nuts, is my husband and I will, if we can, catch a fly in mid-air and release them. It's become a karatee kid thing around the house to see who is more centered. With this fire arm issue, I see purchasing guns as if it becomes an underground type deal. We won't be able to purchase them freely, like we do now w/a license. It would be very difficult for me to snuff out a life personally, but as you said, if someone was after my family something else would take over and I'd get in the mind frame of, "Bring it..." I'm there anymore w/this. I pretty much run around like the 3-faces of eve or Sybil when the visions are strongest and I feel very VERY sad and emotional for the people who, maybe it's not can't see it, but don't want to. I don't either. This stuff isn't going to happen tomorrow either, I should add. It's coming though and right now is the good news that we have the time to prepare to ease transition, only. It is not the end of the world. for some, it will feel like it though. I'd say, the people who are or consider themselves affluent and the people who depend on the gov't to 'right their ways' will be crushed. Oddly enough, though there is takl about the middle class getting squeezed, they are the ones that will carry this ship. Entrpaneurs will as well because they will be networking inadvertantly. They will have the resourses to connect with other like minded ind. I'd go as far as to say, start making your networking ring now.

The things I'm seeing, right now, more so than the fire arms are, as you said, groups coming in, which will push this next wave over the edge. I can't stress this enough. Hasn't anyone just been in the basement or something and there's a too quiet atmosphere that nags at you or a scent that absolutely tells you when the turkey is done and you go check before the timer goes off? this is what i'm speaking of in terms of preparing. This scent is here, this turkey is just about done!

Timing though, if I say we have 7-10 years, to some, it's like back to business. There's loads of time. I don't see time like that. 10 years is like a good 6 months, to me, to get things in order.

The other thing I'm seeing are "lines", especially and Hitler type days but not in terms of holocaust. It works more like, watch how that dictatorship entered that particular time zone. Watch how the movitation of Hitler came to play. See the results, in the streets, in the markets, etc.

I've had people take what I'm seeing and transposing it into issues about race. Not even. That holds about as much water as cooties on a playground and little kids running around yelling jinx and anti-quincies, no erasies. There's just no time for that but go with it if you need to.

The people who get caught up in the promises of the Govt will take care of you, "We love you..." those are the ones that will be hurt the greatest. I see people - lines of them, mostly blacks and immigrants, standing in these lines. The elderly won't as much as they kind of already see it coming. They're tired. The younger ones though, for a while will be so desensitized they just pass the time on a cell phone or ipod. I see police having to manage these lines and what the economy is feeling now, they get in not recieving their checks or what not. they will be so reliant and justified in getting these funds, it won't even dawn on them what to do. From here, when this starts to happen, I see the children of these people raiding or just taking items, especially food from stores, riots, etc. It will get where people are taking food from gardens and fields. There will be more earth changes and it will make more sense to treat an ailment, if you can, from the home instead of heading "out."

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The movie Dead Zone has to do w/visions and what it takes out of a man who has them on a regular basis. One of the visions is a man running for president (Martin Sheen). The economy is plummeting and I'm paraphrasing, he gains the votes in the vision by saying things like, "Take a look at yourselves (and the crowds are cheering) what are you all doing here on a week day in the middle of the afternoon? How are you all feeling about the person next to you and being out of work? Elect me and I'm going to change all that!" He goes around to union groups and blue collars wearing a brown insulted jump suit and a hard hat saying he understands them, he was once there and he's just like them in many ways, gets down on the ground and begins doing 100 push ups to prove it.

John sees the future of the candidate becoming elected but, his mission had more to do with making his mark in history. It had little to do with the people.

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Hi Elliese,

Thank you for the additional clarifications. However, there is a phrase that keeps sticking in my mind that Obama said a few months back, it had something to do with people who are willing to work. When I heard this statement, I thought "as opposed to what", then I thought perhaps he meant that people who rely on the government to supply their needs will no longer have that luxury. Meaning, all social services are going to get cut way back, and given to only those who cannot work for one reason or another.

Right now I work in the health and human services field, I know there are people who get supplemental insurance from the government, based on their inability to work, due to a disability. Unfortunately, I see too many people on SSI that can indeed work but choose not to. Perhaps this is part of the plan, to weed out the people who choose not to work from those who truly cannot work. If the money is not there, then only those who have a true medical reason, such as M.R. will get the SSI benefits.

However, the feeling I get is that more and more people are going to need health and human services. However, those services are more than likely NOT going to be coming from the government, perhaps private individuals or companies, not sure.

I suppose the problem I have with his statement is I believe that most people want a job, however, how are people supposed to get a job when companies are cutting jobs left and right? The statement didn't make much sense to me then and now it even makes less sense because of the economic problems the country is facing. If companies are laying off thousands of people, how exactly is anyone supposed to get a job when they are willing to work?

It's almost like double jeapordy to me.

Anna

Hi anna -

I don't really listen to Obama unless he and something he says and I happen to be in the same place at the same time inadvertantly. I don't know or haven't heard what this particular phrase is meaning.

What I do get from this person is a short-term affect and many years to fix it. I thought all of these feelings would pass after the elections - I've had them well before May of this year. They haven't passed and I feel like I'm just sitting here checking off from a list of of things I'm seeing coming.

I don't feel everyone goes back to work. I don't feel jobs opening up again. I feel as I posted in past, Russia doesn't go away. This may be the larger land w/sattelite lands in militant forces I'm seeing against the u.s. I feel obama pleads his case to the people who voted for him as to overlook his mistakes. This man will not see or admit a failing. I feel bad relations and faulty contracts w/foriegn gov'ts. I feel more defaul taxes. I feel his plans can not be supplemented by the people who are suposed to support them through their taxes. I feel more and more health "benefits" for Everyone, but it will be so overcrowded it will be like going to NYC for a driver's license bureau problem - I get the same impressions w/hospitals.

It sounds all bad, but it's not. Again, get your networks in order as you go. We are not untalented and inept individually. It is through our individuality we have specialties. I would take some basic CPR/first aid classes now - they'll come in handy. Learn about herbs and homeopathy. We've all heard of it before commercial meds. BIOCHEMISTRY.

I don't see the crowds Obama is addressing as embracing these changes with wanting to work. The people who did want to work or still want to will find it more and more difficult w/out working for themselves - going into business for themselves. I see most jobs heading off shores - its a matter of time. There wll be highs and lows in the news and everyone wll want to believe the hi's including myself.

I'm middle of the road - I don't expect a complete turnaround or the world coming to an end. Some people think that's what this is. It's not. It's just something you need to put one foot in the other with w/out caving to the denial that would be so great to endulge in, lol. We are simply being exposed to the power we each have as individuals and dually noted in coming together through each other and not one man. You can't force togetherness. When you can feel the power of it individually, though, you bring that much power to the table in free will where things just naturally come together.

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o.k. I think I have a handle on why the need to learn to stand on your own 2-feet (which we should in general), but like I felt before - there will be the race issue and black liberation in the mind frame of "getting more money." Like they deserve it. I see this like I would some drug. You may get warm fuzzies, but don't get hooked on this idea. Immigrants come more and more taking a toll on the structure (what's left of it) financially. People will retire earlier - they won't be motivated to work to send everyone else to the market or pay for insurance on other people's mortgage. If they own homes they will scale down, not so much because they don't need the room but because there will be a tax on how much they don't have left on their mortgage. That sounds really wierd, but they will be paying on something they've already paid down??????? it will work like a capital gain or something.

I use to work for the gov't. What happens with the people that rely on their "retribution" checks every months works kind of like what happened to us when we wouldn't get paid until 2 weeks after our regular pay check. These will be the starting signs.

I'm not sure on this one yet, but Russia still comes in the fore front. There are lands around it - it's either them or Iraq. I need to look at a map, but there are joining forces against the u.s. I don't sense we go down, but there seems to me anyway, the attack that comes at us has to do with utilities. The basics. So if you don't know how to get by on 2 weeks or 3 w/out electricity, I would learn (fill your bathtubs up with water at the first sign of trouble...you'll be glad you did I'd keep some cash around the house too. Seems something goes haywire w/atms. Most of these attacks will be us doing it to ourselves with panick. So, if you can just rough it for awhile, it passes.

i don't know if this is possible, but I'll throw this out there. Our monies become equal internationally?? That in itself doesn't seem bad, but there will be more power for us not to get to our money. Have you ever had a problem with your computer and tried to get help w/one of those 800 lines? That's what I see coming to our financial system and like the computer lines, it won't do a bit of good to complain because they will need the money you can't get to. It won't be in their benefit to resolve it.

Just learn to garden and store or can food. It really is fun, it tastes good and you won't have to go to the stores so much. Keep what you can afford to lose in the markets and just keep an eye on it for profits. It's almost like going to the casinos.

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Hi elleise,

I agree there is a lot of hype surrounding Obama. It turns out you were right about a race about race. I'm not getting too excited either and holding on to the possibilities we can see more people like Palin and Romney in the near future.

You know, even if Palin and Romney weren't Republicans, I'd still like to see them running this country and even if Obama was a republican I still wouldn't.

I think we'll see the financial changes you are sensing within the next 3-7 years but we'll see signs of them before even then.

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These quotes were back in June or May. I'm just combining them. I have three happy sessions today and one tommorow so I'm just cleaning house, lol.



This War "in the lands" it's going to be a civil war. More and more people will take things into their own hands. It works like this. Inter racial groups begin "Crying Wolf" complaining and suing for looking the wrong way, kind of thing. For awhile people are intimidated. When their frustration builds, that frustration turns to tension. The race tension becomes ever widening. Activist groups like KKK and black panthers start re-building to exponential levels. Like I haven't thought about either in decades. They start rising to the surface and start taking people out. The court system becomes backed up w/these event so even if you are arrested it will take years to follow through. But they will bring out some immediate law that's like "upping the ante" if you do get caught to settle everyone down. It only works for a little bit. I personally wouldn't go out of way to fuel any bad attitudes. Again a shaken up pop bottle comes to mind. These aren't the holy grail days, walk tepidly.

Also, more people "stock pile" guns. You will go to these people to purchase fire arms, almost under ground??? You'll have to know someone who knows someone to find them, kind of thing.





E.) Russia/Georgia. Russia does not go away. USA surrounded by outside influence - strategic in making



This land seems it stratagizes with another powerful or large scale - outside u.s. govt. there are satellite lands that are accumulated in support along the way surrounding it. There will be some agreements signed, look for this between some of these lands and the u.s. What is publicized won't be the real threat. Other agreements behind closed doors. Those will be.

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Somewhere I wrote about Hillary not being "out of the picture by any means" and having to do with presidency. I'll go back and find that later. We're headed out to the lake to make my husband's dad, dinner - lasagna or slow cooked mesquite pork. Hmmmmmmmmmmm But, Hillary has more in mind than what will be presented in public.

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Elleise, the NRA has been ringing my phone off the hook. I finally told them today, I was using my money for ammunition. Which is true, as I had already discussed it with my husband. Canning jars are ready, freezer and pantry are full. Seeds are on order and we already have supplies for a seedling box to get them started early so we can do 2 crops next year. We have camp stoves, extra fuel, candles and oil lamps.

Now this may all seem excessive, however, we live only 12 miles from the ocean. Most of this we keep on hand for Hurricane Season anyway. I've already increased my tax withholding, and my husband is doing it next month.

Just wanted you to know, some are heeding your words.

I'm glad to hear that icp It's nice to be able to work in a positive way with the things (when they're challenging)that suggest themselves again and again.

You know, all of this comes in stages. You'll hear/see them most when you are quiet inside, like a doe. Have you ever watched one enjoying themselves completely in the wilderness. They know what's out there, sometimes they'll even stare it down, like "what are you doing in my back yard?", lol...but they don't ever stop living.

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I'll need to keep my eye on this one! There are WAY too many coincedences in the feelings/visions and this headline I'm getting! Especially the "equal monies" part, the two lands, Russia/Islam, etc. Year 2025 which comes up a lot in the things I"m seeing for the future.

Anything can be altered, but when a clairvoyant picks something up again and again, it means it's the general way things are likely headed.

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This was written back in Sept. There is reference to the next four months and layoff and that another wall falls. I have a feeling that wall will be year-end numbers and unemployment.

Also, "NEW WORLD" those words specifically just now caught my attention. They are the exact words used in the link I just posted on, but the end of the sentence is ORDER - "NEW WORLD ORDER."

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This headlines also mentions "food shortages."

This is a HUGE deal in the "clairvoyant world." Even if we disagree on concept and how information does or doesn't come through, we all agree there will be a hardship on food never seen before in these lands.

This will also depict the "govt' programs" welfare, etc. Those programs WILL bottom out. Again, buyer be ware. I urge you to learn to network, garden whatever you have to to protect yourself in the future.

10 year to 17 may seem like a long time, but again, it's the 3 little pigs story that comes to mind.

I don't know about other clairvoyants, but 10 years is like a flash in the pan, at least to me.

You can even dry seeds, when those begin to get hard to find. Their potency lasts only for a couple of years at this point. We may be able to find a preservative before that time, however.

ICP - you have any more info on COMMUNITY GARDENING? That may be a good idea to post that here.

My 2 cents, get to know some of your neighbors again and work together. If someone scoffs, let them. They'll be knocking on your door eventually offering a lending hand as more of these things begin making more headlines. You'll already have a system in place where they can help. It won't go to waste!

You can get creative w/newsletters and recipe swaps for the community, feature some dishes in state and/or local fairs, offer neighborhood contests w/$20.00 gas or groccery cards. It can be fun!

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I try to post examples of the predictions as they come to pass. Otherwise they can be really hard to picture or sound like something different than the words I used.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090129/ap_on_re_us/winter_storm

I know most people have heard about the huge ice storm that just came through the midwest/east recently. But it's the electric shrtages that's significant. I'd say these people, if you talk to them will give a clear picture of how "electric shortages" feel and to me, anyway seems to be gifted a trial run. I absolutely see these increasing. Not alot of them will be due to weather either. It would make more sense for that, but something else causes long terms of electric shortages.

Make sure you have items around to handle one. Filling your bathtub up with water if you think your area will get one will help in more ways you can imagine. A lot of people rely on elecricity to dispense water from their sinks, toilets, etc.

It's probably obvious, "the economy" but about the monies being dispensed, continue to consider working for yourself, or changing careers to something YOU understand the people will need, health service industry, transportation, etc. The gov't has other plans than what is being "proposed" with the bailouts. It won't create the jobs they are telling the public it will. Money tends to stay in the gov't or trail back into it in some form.

I do see some project for automobiles, as in jobs are created to make this new type car. It's a relief for people in that line of work, but have a back-up plan and save that money. After the contract, even if they say, "and we'll need people ot service these new cars, etc." It's not the job boom you'll want ot believe it is. People continue to cut corners on service runs, dr's, vets, etc. correction in the economy will be a very long-term process. Cut food bills by doing it yourself, bake, can, deep freeze soups, meats, veggies.

More and more people will buy from eachother, products, information, etc. The gov't will regulate, in some form these things or try to as well. The gov't gets bigger..controls things you'd never imaging in a million years. Continue to think and educate for yourself. What's really going on and what will be advertised by [politicians] ALL politicians will begin to make more sense to you if you do. If you're republican, listen to the Dems' if your primarily dem, listen to the Repulicans. Both sides are wrong but you'll see the truth in the middle as to what'll be affecting you. It's important, right now especially.

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Although a comical view of what or how our economy begins to buckle w/the new administration to come, this video was sent to me regarding our economic status, at least under the table...not spoken in the public.

It made me laugh none the less. Many of the withdrawals as well have to do with people having a closer look at the inside agenda. We absolutely survive this, but we'll have some tidal waves in the mean time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA9zj94NuU&feature=related

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I'm doing my best to check in with the "economy" and whether or not there's a sense of things changing.

I think I can pretty much speak for all clairvoyants in not necessarily enjoying some of the information that comes through, but the better news behind it is that it may help in making some important decisions - help prepare for much of whatever is coming or simply being able to ride out as comfortably as possible

This will be in my time (the market). I sense this goes away. There is a group of people that will follow or hear the "words" the plan to reverse the economy...the people who listen will not be the people who would be able to reverse the economy. At some point the market fails to make corrections. Some people will stay in thinking it's been down like this before.

The good news is, the downward spiral of this particular stock market doesn't seem to affect people like it did one time before. One time before it seems honest money was in the market "real" money. There is so much "phantom" money and failed pockets that the people who do know about this market understand, that we are already seeing a great deal of those affects. On top of this a great deal of us are already OUT of this particular market. Thsese people will not notice as much of a change in life style (even if you're going through forclosure) as the people who either relied on the gov't altogether (aid/welfare) or who have almost all of their assest in the market.

Aid recipients end up getting just barely enough (which may be enough for some) not the increased lifestyle that's being promised. This aid though comes or had been planned to come from plans to tax people. This was based on numbers though. Those numbers had other numbers that were left out - Still hidden reported numbers having to do with job losses and cutbacks. I sense some people end up cashing in or deciding to go on aid themselves. This takes a chunk of the projected welfare aid away. As taxes go up to compensate for this, even more of that "aid pool" will continue to outsource, big time.

The good news. I sense more people will be happy doing what they will do though. Compensation money doesn't buy and the people making this change will or are already learning managable skills to maintain house and home. Networking keeps surfacing as well. We almost go into a "trade" atmosphere. Like we buy from our own networks or trade skills to build up these businesses which leads into (hooray) the good part.

SMALL BUSINESSES and BUSINESSES altogether! This is or seems important. If you are going into a small business, the ones that seem to do well are those that A. people trust or can rely on in quality and delivery and also need in some fashion. Dont get creative in trying to look at your businiess as something people might possibly need. More over think i.e. mind, body, spirit. Not to sound New Agie but litterally think: Does the mind need this(knowledge - especially at home knowledge,trades, rememdies, recipes, gardening)? Does the body need this (clothes/food/cleaning,soaps,etc.)? Does the Soul need this(healing/counseling)? These business will succeed regardless of the market. Core needs, basics, not so much jewelry or restaraunts for the body or electronics for the mind (although there will always be some market for electronics).

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Right now, I'm still sensing the strongest things having to do with the market. I sense it continues to downturn.

In regards to online sales, I see two sides. There will be the individuals that simply "bate", in order to get sales here and there....

I also see, the other side, which are those in small business who deliver above and beyond the call of duty. I see a lot of networking and where there were barriers, those barriers with a little trust are taken down. It is this type of networking that takes off as well as empathy in regards to what it is that is offered and needed by the public.

I see more and more people needing or wanting to go online - grocceries? I'm not certain how this transpires. Possibly, people let lose of their automobiles, insurance, taxes on mileage, working from home, etc. and opt to work from the internet. More and more of the middle person is cut out as well. This may also pave way for the internet and home marketing more so than we see today.

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Hi Elleise

What do you think of the market overall? My parents are in the market, but they're not really doing anything different. I noticed there has been some positive movement as of late. Curious if anything has changed. Thanks!

-whoisjohngalt

Hi John,

Honestly, I think/feel the market is going through an arificial high - like it falls back down. I feel we're going to see adverse affects with the stimulus monies, but what's done is done, this is the person in office right now.

I wish i had better news, specifically for your question about the market, but the good news I'm getting rounds after this passes and presently by not being in the market. Remember people have an "emotional investment." You need to understand this to understand what or how rather, this is affecting headlines and public money movement. There is money to be made but it's going to come from something different than in the past. Don't forget the power of the people. We're still being given, a bit of "a show." As time goes on you'll get more of what's realy going on but it will come from independant reporting.

If your parents are in the market, this may help I do get there will be "spike" profitting, like quips????? You'll be able to cash in on those by reading the writing on the wall, so to speak. There will be tell - tale thinking indicating where those will be. Like a chess game.

I'm getting something about taxes though. This is outside of the $250,000 + folks. It affects virtually everyone. I can't quite see it though, maybe it's in the making still, but the taxes, yes they go up, but there are taxes on things or it's arranged so we are taxed on things that kind of make you shake your head, like you're kidding. This eventually leads to people who hide more money or who opt not to pay. That's down the line but we'll see signs though in the near future of this.

Best to you

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A bit more information came through after I first posted. Sorry John! Just in case though I thought I'd post a notice. Take care

Elleise

I'm checking in with feelings and sensations about the near events in the economy and environment. So far, many things have come to pass which in itself is neither good nor bad, but means or tends to indicate the feelings are accurate.

It's important to mention, as I wrote these things in the past, over the last decade or so, I was not interested nor had the energy to delve into media events or politics. I had been trying or recovering from a domestic situation. Enough said on that. On to it...

I want to look to the U.K. and Europe as to an almost, it happens over there and moves it's way into the central america.

I feel they have issues there, but here - and this is sense only - though we have economical hard times, we have a bit of a spoiled energy. This meaning , we have the luxury of getting caught up in race..."I'm black" "I'm white" (demands, anger and so on and so forth). I really want to say, "GET over it!!!!!" There are more events headed this way and if you want to get through them, rejoice in the simplicity and beauty of your diversity. I'll say it again, "Get over it." Negative energy will have no place - and will be a bit like tying concrete weights to someone treading in the deepest of oceans trying to survive.

There is some summit I saw, a video. It caught my attention. The twist on this is what you see there are, "happy times." They are protestors but we will look at that over the years and think that was more like an Easter day parade when it begins trickling this way. We haven't quite come to terms yet with what's happening, even though we might be inconvenienced or dislike what's going on. We are in fact, "still distracted!"

This will have a close-knit relation to taxes - low, medium, wealthy, will be affected, whether they think they will or not.

On another note. Gas, when it was high, it was in the headlines and people were talking about how to save energy, etc. There was some relief here. Something happens with taxes and another increase in energy. I want to say, remember what you did back then. It was a window, a trial. Don't go back to old routines or bump up from when you were really trying to conserve. Keep trying to perfect what your efforts showed for back then.

Tell the kids no! I urge folks now, if they haven't already done so, start generating a new attitude in the next generation. Limit those calls, share cars, put more responsibility on the kids instead of easing guilt in making things more palitable. They can take it and will find a strength in their own capabilities. It's understandable to want to do something for someone you love. It gives a sense of accomplishment and fulfills an emotional void, especially during these times, but there are other more effective ways of showing devotion. It's certainly not out of the question to offer situations that will allow them to pull their own weight.

Please begin perfecting those gardens!! Really sit down and see what you use. Go through your herbs and spices and tally up $3.00 per bottle and see how much you can save. Plant dried up garlic cloves and old potatoes with little roots sprouting, buy onion bulbs, throw vegetation scraps into a square of dirt in the yard for compost, even coffey grounds, if you don't have a composter. They add vitamins and minerals to the soil.

Network, network, network. Let people know what you do. Make creative menus, get out of the house, meet your neighbors, bring over a gift basket - give a helping hand, seek out local services. The point here is give - don't hoard. "Like-action" and attitude will attract the same, which leads me to why anyone who for whatever reason has a negative anything or contributes to negative energy - regardless of "the cause" might as well fill their boots up with lead and attempt to walk solid grounds in the marsh.

Now more than ever we will get to see what energy is made of, good energy or negative. Complacent energy will have a need for adjustment as well. If you're breathing, you have energy, use it wisely.

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These issues began taking a hold of me prior to May of '08 but only around May I began writing about them. This reply is attached to one post I wrote about concerning tax increases. There's another one but I can't find it right now but will. It had to do with the champain Obama was pledging to only tax individuals and businesses making $250,000.00/annual + . I wrote this was false and that the middle and lower income people will be taxed as well.

This weekend my husband and I stayed at a hotel and for me anyway was the first time I heard it announced on TV. Middle income individuals will see a tax increase. Obama can't support the "change" he's implementing. The jobs that are being created with and for special interest groups, guess what? The salaries fall right smack dab in middle income. You're going to be giving that money right back to the man. It only gets better. Like I mentioned before with the things that came through, which at the time were very hard for me to write, are now litterally like checking off a groccery list with this administration.

The affirmations of their coming to pass should make a person feel some sense of relief. In this case it makes me want to run for the nearest tavern!

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Elleise
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Or another country! I seriously wonder what it would be like living in Canada. Canada has great Pubs.

If things go unchecked, we WILL be Canada, with government health care and absolutely no way to protect ourselves with fire arms.

Eleise, thanks so much for sharing with us, so we can prepare.

My husband and I have seriously considered moving to another country.

His own curiosity after my pointing out the tax increase made him research the hype on the "Cash for Clunkers" deal and the cars.gov website.

I had only seen a hand painted sign on the highway while we were driving and I said, "I wonder what that's all about?"

He went to the cars.gov website. It has the "Cash For Clunkers" application on it. I couldn't believe what he told me and looked it up for myself.

OMG, it's true! If you log on to the Cars.gov website and accept the "terms of agreement" from that point forward - Your computer is considered a FEDERAL COMPUTER SYSTEM! It becomes the property of the U.S. gov't and can be monitored, audited, copied and even siezed at any time and given to authorized officials, both DOMESTIC and FORIEGN!

Maybe that's the china thing that was coming through. They sensor all of their citizens as far as free anything, speach or otherwise. These days, for us anyway, the computer is communication on all levels. One acceptance of the so called "free cash" and it's a bit like biting into that poison apple!

I think I wrote in here as well, to have a back up way to communicate with eachother outside of computer tech. I am leaning towards and we as of tonight are buying a CB radio and back up generator. No joke.

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Elleise
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Back to the future. We all need a secondary means of communication. If anything happened to the power as well, we would all be isolated.

I agree. There are crank and solar powered radios. Those are a must have in my opinion. There are also, solar powered batteries that may be able to be used for a CB. The only thing is whoever you are contacting or wants to be able to contact you, obviously has to have a CB as well.

But, here's a thought, not sure if it's possible, but maybe there's a way to communicate on an open radio wave/station through a CB so at least you can reach groups of people or people can find you.

I have issues or feelings having to do with free speach as well. Those are new for me. It has to do with public either radio or tv being sensored. It feels like whatever it is, the administration we have right now is 50% of the way to doing whatever it is they will be doing in regards to limiting exposure to anything that goes against them. They wrap it up in something that won't outwardly come out and say, "You can't speak out against us." It gives me the ebbie-geebies!!!!

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Elleise
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This is already well underway and began in earnest during the campaign. Obama is doing it himself, but discreetly in his speeches. The true threat is in his "henchmen" and supporters. If one speaks out against the President, and/or his policies, they are attacked personally, along with their family, friends, and employers.

No better or more recent example than Lou Dobbs on CNN. He raised the question of Obama's birth certificate. It was a relevant question, as someone in the military had sued in court over Obama's legitimacy as president, and his authority to deploy troops overseas. The question of the birth certificate had already been resolved, however, many don't know, or still have concerns, such as this serviceman

Within a day, Obama supporters were calling on CNN to fire Lou Dobbs. This type of censorship is cloaked within Free Speech and thus cannot be directly linked to the source. My feelings are that it will get worse before it gets better.

What I cannot grasp, try as I may, is what "force" has promoted, sustained, and instilled such vampant ideology within our Country. The ability to work together and compromise has been replaced "our Way or the Highway" mentality, on all fronts, at varying levels. It's trickled down to even the neigborhood level. I've had friends and neighbors spout politcal vitreous at me to my utter astonishment.

If we could only identify this "force" and it's source to neutralize it, maybe then we could work together. Until then, I don't foresee anything truly positive happening for a while.

Back in March 2008, I started a thread and asked the question, how would you do it? (to bring about world peace). I got some interesting replies which you can read Here

Personally, I think the problem of what is happening now in our country goes very deep and has been lying dormant for many years. Slowly invading our country, the "force" is taking over more each day.

Eleise, this sounded so outrageous that I couldn't resist checking it out. I think I found the Glen Beck program you might have gotten this info from? Where he uses a laptop he took from somebody's office (wow, nice, huh?) because he would never use his own to log into CARS.gov as a car dealer (not as a car owner who wants to trade their car in, as he clearly states that he is posing as both simultaniously)? Then he attempts to show the audience how the dealership would go to log on to CARS, but would first need to agree to the terms and conditions that you mentioned.

So, I went to the CARS.gov site, and for the consumer, there is no log in - only info about how the program works. I'm not sure how Beck was able to pose as a dealer in order to have access to this [still alleged]info (as one would apparently have to in order to read the terms and conditions for a dealer) but I remain unconvinced that his demonstration was legit. If it were, what sane car dealer would go near it- and how long would the program actually last? I feel it's a ploy to instill fear in people who already deeply mistrust Obama and his programs - to the point where they are too afraid to check them out for themselves. We must all be wary of such fear/confusion tactics, for our own state of health and well being.

Something else I feel is important to contemplate is that spying on citizens via computers was implemented by GWB years ago. Also, his means of governing has led us to our current state of affairs - one that Obama only just inherited a matter of months ago. Just a moment of lucid retrospection in these times of heightened fear and mistrust.

I do understand everyone's concerns here, so please don't get me wrong. When it comes to politics, it is nearly impossible to completely trust our leaders, no matter who they are. I support Obama, but am watching him with open eyes. Time will tell what he is truly about, but I feel it is far too soon to tell whether he will be able to clean up the mess he landed in, or make matters worse. For me, I have trust that all which transpires is meant to be - all simply is what it is, and we are each a part of the whole.

Shannon

Hi Shannon,

Actually, my husband pulled up a PDF file that had the "Federal Government Property" stint. I didn't retrieve the information or follow the person Glenn Beck. I'm not really much of a follower actually.

This was all in reference to Obama saying no tax hikes for the middle/low class. I felt maybe in May or June that this was false. I had only heard recently that it won't be just the $250,000. + getting tax increases. My husband hadn't heard the tax increase news on the middle and lower income class and threw in the Cars.gov information, which I didn't believe until I saw it for myself.

Normally I don't follow politics GWB or otherwise and don't feel any politician alone gifts problems in the "workforce". If information finds me and something clicks with what I've felt prior (several months to a few years, then I will get more information to try and put the pieces together). If that makes sense for you. If I do it the otherway around, I start thinking. Intuition/feelings and thinking are two entirely different things.

After your mentioning Glenn Beck though, I couldn't find what you were refering to but a bunch of youtube videos. In looking at these, his point is very clear though. If you are an administrator and you process and accept the terms of the application you, your employees and any information put onto these computers by any other users that ulitize a computer through that system is considered Federal Government Property

What this particular person "Glenn Beck" appears to be saying, at least to me anyway is what on earth are they thinking? Business is business and once you process or enter into this particular application, your rights to everything personal, equiptment, records having nothing to do with the application (all files) becomes property of authorities, both foriegn and domestic. Foriegn also seems to upset this person because he is American and appears to be fighting for his country. Whether he's a good guy or bad guy, I haven't a clue. I'd have to start looking into Glenn Beck.

The site of Glenn Beck is a place I'm going to start though. Now I guess I'm involved, lol and have put a few links to his website for anyone else who would like to hear his information about what's going on as well. Here is his site address for those people and anyone else who is following this forum.

Glenn Beck Website

I did notice he seems to have a really interesting book out though called Common Sense If I'm really up for a challenge I may do a book review on it. It seems to draw attention to corruption of the entire government and not just Democrats or Republicans. I can usually spot a fan of one or the other a mile away. For this I respect him and am actually looking forward to reading it. If I can just get to a bookstore, lol. I'm on the road in the middle of nowhere...


It's nice you are keeping an eye on Obama, however, I think what is to be is already in the course of happening. We'll just have to wade through it as best we can.
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I forgot, you also asked why would any administrator or dealorship enter into such a program?

Pretty much because the economy is continuing to tank. Car lots simply aren't moving and the dealorships aren't bringing in any income - I'm talking slower than snail pace. I know this from personal insight into speaking with the dealorships and their opinion of the economy. Their opinion is people are afraid to buy right now. So, the reason behind their accepting the terms of agreement is to bring in some money vs. very-very little if that at all.

The "Cash for Clunkers" is pushing the people "on the fence" to go ahead and spend or borrow that $15,000 - $40,000 because they feel even if they keep the car a year or two they can flip it or re-sell and it makes them feel good to see a dollar amount given to them in addition to rebates. It's a bit of psychological play on the mindset of the people wanting to spend but are hesitant and the businesses that desperately need the income.

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Ah. Yes, yes, I do see it. Because I don't know Glen Beck I honestly didn't put any merit to what he was saying. You know how it is - anyone can say anything and many people will believe it, based on many things. Like what you mentioned previously about Obama not being an American citizen - that one took off like wildfire, and though it has been long proven very publicly that he is an American, the fire still burns. Also, the manner in which Beck made his point was overly sensational in a highly Right Wing and political manner, which to me usually spells "untrue." In these instances, I need convincing.

I did a little more probing, and, again according to Beck, the wording of the Terms of Application has now been changed, due to his program. I do concur that the fact that the government ownership clause was in there in the first place is awfully strange. And wrong. And I wonder why it was in there - what purpose would it truly serve? But then, the more I wonder, the more I remind myself that government has always been corrupt. It's certainly nothing new that secret motives are, and always have been, carried out without the citizens' knowledge or consent. It's what government is all about, no matter what the continent, country or party.

Yes, I do totally understand the distinction between intuition and thought, and appreciate your process. I guess where I come from is an overall understanding that what will be, will be, and I'm not bombarded with the images that you are faced with daily, and forced to confront and reconcile with. This must be a troubling process a great deal of the time. I can understand why you and many others become overwhelmed with feelings of wanting to move to another country! Yet, all countries have corrupt governments, and while issues may vary, eventually they will wear one down. That's why so many people from other countries come to America - to escape their own oppressive governments.

It's funny, because friends of mine lived in Ireland during the Bush Administration, but now feel more of a sense of comfort in the US since Obama was elected, and will remain here - at least for now.

In the Tao, we practice being in the world, not of the world, and I sometimes stray away from this philosophy when I find myself affected by other's fear of reality - of the reality of the darker side of humanity. Yes, government corruption is real - yet so is nature and silence and the vast universe free of humanity and games of control. I do at times feel compelled to remind those in fear to rest back into a place free of the horrors which affect them. To sway their attention toward the reality of beauty to balance out and offset the pain they feel. Remember that governments gain strength from citizens fear and feelings of oppression - it is all just a large scale game that we can choose to join or step away from. Mostly, I choose to lean toward the light, with the awareness that the dark comes from the same source. Then all becomes one - as all is one. And worries become obsolete. Yes?

Shannon

Hi Shannon

I am glad to hear from you again and even more glad to hear that Glenn Beck has done some good in keeping an eye on the �written impact� of something that has attempted to get through the loops.

I have other visions and feelings that are on a larger scale pertaining to all of the changes and bills that are being passed related to them. From the depths of my soul I feel no one in this country knows, has seen or will see the full scope of those quite yet. It comes to me that very few actually knows what�s in those bills, not even the party of the party that�s passing them. If some do know, they�ll not say anything as they won�t want to be on the �outs� with the party that�s in right now or be cowardly objectified as a �racist� for pointing out the obvious. So, as you can see, yes, Glenn Beck�s non-complacency does make me feel better and I�m grateful for your post.

We have something else in common though. My husband is from Ireland and so was my ex-husband. I�m not sure how I managed to do that, but�Anyway, one was complacent but always looking for a fight. He was very unsettled on the inside yet professed Buddhism. The other extremely open in heart and mind, very hard working - no short cuts ever and relinquishes his credentials. You can probably guess which one is the �ex.�, lol. Even so neither of them feel comforted that Obama is in office, but neither really looked to one man to fix their problems or all of history.

As far as friends and people around us that agree with us, well I find we usually surround ourselves with a reality that truly reflects what it is we ourselves feel comforted by or are ready to embark upon when we are ready to graduate from what we currently define as our beliefs at that particular moment in our lives. True relationships withstand the changes while others fade away to other�s that hold their truths as well. For myself, hard work hands down, regardless of your background whether you are male, female, black, white, Bolivian, Polish, Hispanic, etc. All of us have seen desperate times and have backgrounds of pain, poverty and hate somewhere in our lineage.

However, pretty much since I can remember from childhood on up most of the people I was attracted to and am currently surrounded by, share stories of how they started with nothing and now have their own business or are retired without taking money or complaining to get it. That�s just my personal �thing� if you will. I personally am not attracted to or respect people or groups that wine with the attitude of a hand out. My brother is just the opposite. He very much is happy to receive free anything. That is his prerogative. He has a beautiful heart and I love him. We agree to disagree. He is very much in favor of Obama. I do have some friends that are in betweeners, but as of now no one really thanking the universe for the man. As with my brother, we�ll just have to agree to disagree, that too is part of this world as �one.�

The TOA ( that�s on a clairvoyant topic). My personal take on it as well as other faiths, beliefs and religions is that each person interprets what someone else before them presented them. That�s it. I believe we start out with what we are taught by our parents and go from there with the experiences we have had ourselves which also affects us on a personal level, thus incorporating them into the translation we carry in our hearts as to what we think we believe at that given point in time. No one is right - no one is wrong, we�re all a little bit right and are usually very much in the wrong in terms of what we understand in this Universe in its entirety.

In terms of living as one of �One - the world/Universe.� Yes, we are all of one. Very much like a tapestry. That is my belief. Each of our energies are intertwined on some level. However, when there is a crack or tattered weave within that tapestry, if the tapestry as a whole were to become complacent, it would dim, sag and desolve eventually.

The reason for this particular forum, specifically, is pretty much to talk about intuitions, visions and dreams so people would have somewhere to go and get whatever it is off their chest. If someone reading the posts finds information along the way, such as yourself that affirms the feelings or even just helps to make sense of what it is they can�t quite put their finger on, we discuss it here. This isn�t really a forum to convert Democrats or Republicans. There is probably more fluency for that in the political forums.

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I had a dream and what is significant is that both my husband and I woke at the same time and swapped dreams. In fact I rose first/sat up in bed and he propped himself on his side and we both said at the same time, "I just had the wildest dream..."

They weren't exact but the themes were. The last things we spoke about were liposuction and cosmetic surgery.

His dream was about Rome and he was a soldier that had taken the fall for what set the breach of Roman Empire - contract off. Basically, the beginning of the fall.

For me, my dream was a young child, tan skin, dark hair and a mother on her knees holding on to him with his hands by his side and expressionless face.

He said, "The last hour they will mix words of hate as to devoid the people of the truth."

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Elleise
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Well that's a powerful and pertinent statement, and very descriptive of what's going on.

When I woke up, i woke in a state of panic. you know where you sit up in bed with your eyes wide open which happen to be the only things that move.

I'm getting more about the riots as well. They may be popping up here and there, but they escalate. The gov't tries to keep up, maybe even making some examples to keep people in line, but the people end up being pushed beyond their limits over running the system. Race matters little when this happens, black, white, spanish, jewish - color won't matter, none will be special. You push and what comes back at you ends up being like someone pulling the pin 2 feet in front of you.

Health care - i know it's a big deal right now and this sounds nuts, but it feels all of this is an implementation for some type of chip that tracks people. I had a dream where lines were being formed and there were different color jumpers designating something. We had chips and something we pass through read them.

Oh, they tell us the chips are good for us and can end up saving our lives. That's how people end up being open to them.

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Elleise
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If you've never read Orwell's book 1984, right now might be a pretty good time. It will probably scare the bejeebers out of you with the pertinent parallels.

The intense radicalism, personal attacks, conflicting statements are driving me nuts. I feel very strongly we are heading rapidly towards a breaking point, and I don't think it's going to be pretty.

The need to prepare is urgent and constant. The one unkown - What am I to prepare for?

For me, in terms of preparing is having to do with a majority of people who end up grasping in survival at some point.

They become reliant on a system that ends up failing and because they've never developed self control/boundaries or skills to acquire or build resources of their own, they simply start taking what isn't theirs and the people who did know how to build and survive with hard work begin pushing back. They've had enough. People begin killing that have never killed before. They've held back enough and start taking these people down. Supressed anger rises and there isn't a structure that can contain any order. A money system is either replaced altogether or falls and has to be rebuilt.

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I just had a flash hit me this morning when I woke up. Of all the things I have predicted to come to pass I hope this is the one that's absolutely wrong! You have no idea...

Anyway, if anyone has ever had a child you knew in your heart that the task they were trying to take on was destined not to go well for them, but you gave them well meaning words to distract them from the impending failure and felt the experience would be good for them in the end and as a parent and out of love encouraged them anyway to do their best, that�s what came through, BUT minus the love part.

What came through went something like the words people hear would make them feel like someone cares about them, the planet, etc. giving them guidance in an unfair situation (they interpret this as love & genuineness). However, they (the govt.) know that this will not turn out well for them and continue to distract them with words and artificial enemies and unfairness - playing into particular "emotional states."

What happens then is they encourage the people not to focus on the things that worry them, whether it's something from the past or finances, unemployment, how much they make, etc. telling them it�s all going to be "ok" and everything will be more fair when everything is said and done.

What�s really happening is they are giving a sort of "wink-wink" that it�s ok - you've struggled, etc. and to spend little, and if you can�t pay your bills or afford your food that�s o.k. too because help is on the way!

The idea is something like, little by little groups of people give up or quit working and paying their bills causing MORE businesses to go out of business. As businesses fall like apples from a tree, the gov�t picks them up and takes them as their own with the goal being to have control over everything without coming out and saying they want control or have plans to take over everything - it just happens and there will be people for a while, until this system falls - which it does, that continue to believe up until the day they die, like a submissive marriage, that their comrades mean well and had a terrible situation that befell, THEM. It�s like a religion to these people. They just going to believe because that�s their belief. They won�t want to give it up or consider anything, no matter how obvious it is that their belief has holes in it.

There will also be and this is the �health� part ; gov�t health care, data information. It will all now be in one location. Just as you might fear getting audited for taxes, your day to day everything will now be audited and be able to be accessed at any given time. Any health concerns, including your teenagers, past relationships, etc. you might have once been able to keep disclosed or private (really personal information, mistakes, life threatening illnesses) will now be accessed and utilized by whomever is on the other side of the retrieving table. I think, to speed things up, they end up putting all of this stuff on chips. I can�t fathom this so it�s hard to interpret - usually interpretation comes by having the feeling or having gone through something yourself and you pick up that energy when someone is having a reading.

My timelines are crossed - or possibly it is only some people end up having these chips while others resist them. On a separate note. As far some people having the idea of the gov�t supplying everything they could ever need & why this particular system comes crashing down is, whether you are an immigrant entering into the u.s. already here or have an idea of how the gov�t will take care of all your needs, think of it as you would a piece of cheese. One wedge of cheese and billions upon billions of mice clinging on to it. It�s that simple. You will want to bring with you, if you�re coming into this country or are already here, skills, especially having to do with food and survival. As things get even tougher, civil wars and race superiority will compete for whatever it is that�s left.

I always get emotional in Albuquerque, NM - everytime....i can't tell you how many tylenal I've gone through.
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Thanks so much for sharing with us Elleise! Your flashes are very parallel to dreams, premonitions, etc that I and many others are experiencing all over the Country.

I'm also praying hard this does not come to pass. However, with all the confirmations I already have, I'm certainly not ignoring the possibility and preparing just in case.

Recently I saw a clip on a news show of a woman ecstatic over the President's election. Her comment was "now I won't have to pay my mortgage or my car payment!" She was apparently under the delusion the government will be providing for all her needs.

Being from a military family, I can certainly vouch for the fact, the government can not possibly meet everyone's needs. Personal responsibility, basic skills, thriftfullness, knowledge, and networking will be the qualities necessary for survival. We need to learn how to take care of ourselves and each other, exactly as Native Americans and Pioneers did.

Our autonomy as a nation has already been sacrificed through our massive debt, funded by the rest of the world. Any further spending will most probably bankrupt our country, at which time all hand-outs, subsidies, and benefits will come to a screeching halt. This is what we are preparing for, just in case. Many of my friends are not in a financial position to be able to prepare. This makes it all the more important for us, so that we can help them if needed.

Do you have any inclinations on a possible time frame from your "flash" or was it too general?

I had a huge wave of insomnia over the weekend. What struck me as I was on the internet was there are people feeling isolated or alone - scared, insecure, etc. about the fears they have about the ere of what's surfacing - the economy (but they don't lable it or bring it up...more like a "feeling") and more importantly, what's not in the headlines.

These are young people too and what I've always experienced is that young people have an access still - something that hasn't died out in regards to instinct. But these young people say that they are experiencing in the schools, socially, etc. their friends all feel nothing will happen and have a mind set of not wanting to hear about anything too taxing. Going with the flow seems to be something they are subjected to in trying to simply "Be."

What strikes me even more is - if you've ever seen something of a trend - fashion, Hollywood, etc. and everyone is all hot about something - that's what's going on now. People are really feeling afraid to say what's on their mind or pressured to do the "zen" thing.

There's a time for complacentcy and a time to lay it out which some already do, loudly and on the line. The sacrifice of indifference, at least at this point will have more consequence that you'll ever want to look back on, at least in spirit.

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Elleise
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The sacrifice of indifference, I'm afraid is not the only one. Those blindly following the crowd, and those who are ill prepared will be affected, just as harshly as those who choose not to pay attention, and remain indifferent, for whatever reasons.

I've refered to this as "Sheaple." Following the herds infront of you...

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Elleise
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I know I'll be borrowing that word at some point! Do you want a footnote for creative credit?

Thanks...lol. It seems appropriate though.

You know - someone made a really fabulous analogy and in a lot less words than I.

He spoke of what I've observed with welfare and how some people brag about how the gov. pays for their utilities, food, rent, etc. and how they could work, but why? It will only reduce the "free" money they get that the taxpayers give to them.

Well, I used the analogy of the mice and cheese, he uses a boat scenerio. The gov. doesn't make any money - not a penny! You, if you work make their money for them.

He goes on to say, we're all in one boat, no matter how you slice it with petty, race this or that. The people sucking the money off the gov. funds we give them puts holes in the boat. The people that fix those holes are sick and tired of paying the lazy way and are closing up shop.

Remember back when I felt "People will stop paying their taxes?" Wa-la. And man is this just the beginning. This isn't even 1/70th of what the people sucking on the system are going to be getting. There is no money if the tax payers don't give it to the gov. That's it.

The other way people will refuse to give the gov. money is, those who have independant businesses are going to all at one time, refuse. This isn't including the few that start this trend. There will be those who sacrifice and be in the headlines as examples. Guess what again? This only infuriates the workers and they all do it and the system won't be able to contain it all. This is when the free ride stops, right in wherever those tracks are at the time and goes bust.

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Elleise
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I must have missed this icp. I do agree the gov won't be able to do it all. We, if we allow ourselves to see it, have probably already seen some signs of it. Could come in the form of Civil Service not getting their checks on time, etc. financial troubles all the way around, really, but there are significant signs and not one bill or another stops it.

On a positive note though, the people who REALLY need the finances, food, etc., not the people getting everything paid for for free - they'll pretty much be on their own or be in the midst of a ruckus (sp) as people fight over what they can get their hands on, the ones that really can't fend for themselves get help from those around them. Humanity rises and takes over for what the gov. doesn't.

The pipe-dream of Mortgages, gas, food, utilities, big-screen tv's. Sorry - but that one dies. your suggestions of gardening and fending and networking help more than just a few or personal households. These are the ones that end up rising up and we almost go back to this way of living, outside of the political "green" it just works for the people and they end up doing it and on a more unitarian note. It's the happy ending people are wondering about.

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Oh, one last thing. Any immediate help the majority of people feeling "entitled" to a hands up receive... well, they get it but on a very short-term lvevel and end up blowing (in a big way too) right on through it! To them it's never goning to be enough - that's just how it plays out. But, it's just for a little while though or what comes to me, anyway as less than 7-12 years. To me that's short term over the long haul. It tempers out over those years, though. It's a little here and there (in the green) and then it pales like a falling star or comet. They are none the better for it and have nothing left to build on.

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I am really sensing a bust -

Somewhere, you'd have to start back in or on page 1 (back n may) but in there, I sense Obama is or has grey hair and the faces of those that cheered slowly faded and couldn't interpret at the time what the "short - term" thing was. It feels bitter sweet at this point.

There really is so much here.

It feels like even though things come through, people really aren't ready, quite yet to hear it - they need an adjustment period. Well, consider yourselves adjusted. This is it. What that means to each person is in fact personal, but - none the less, it's here. This is the energy that a lot of people are feeling lately...awakenness (i know that's not a word).

Michelle has her own issues but is being called upon to plead on her ability to reach sympathy's (kind of like a soap opera) is the best way to describe it and mean no disrespect, truly, but that's what comes through. It's not just me or other's like me that are sensitive, they've just been asleep - see? People are awake now - there is a stirring.

Something happens, the people won't like and will initially feel disheartened (that's initially) the others will feel "hurray" but will be absolutely disappointed with what's in the hand - to a point there is no "I told you so." It just chokes you up and you'll feel bad but you've got to help the person in front of you or at least in the facinity.

We get attacked, but it's not war per se - it's almost stupidity or unpreparedness and is quickly fixed. But...ther's always a but

There is a grouping of other govs or countries and our monies are combined or (arg this is hard) they are wanTing to be one???????? To me I don't care but it's not what it seems - it's about something much larger.

Just think of this as my personal diary. I have to write it somewhere and hopefully it helps some.

The race thing - this is wierd! But when I focuss on Obama - he's neutered or neutral. He's playing both sides. I promise on my honor that's what I get. I don't see color - I only see or feel attitude or Soul.

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One more tiny thing...those that read this I hope you can take it with a calm grain of salt.

That attack I spoke of, it won't be a surprise (to some in power) and infact an excuse to do something or push something on as a mass or as a group or as a whole, something like that an immidiate "something" that would never have gone through otherwise. I almost get something that looks like a drainage system? What we have goes out.

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I pretty much write in here as I would a diary. A lot of my dreams, if I get them down first thing, have an impact I wouln't otherwise have. Nothing like a little light reading in the morning...

First, I need to or feel the need to clairify, that the things coming in are not the 'end of the world' type deal. Not in any sense. I don't even see that after the financial crisis. We go on.

I almost have the rest of this...it's been like 15 years coming and from someone that will not follow politics, for me to be even talking about this, tells me a lot.

Some of the things I see are 100 yrs. plus down the line and we're all still standing. But, there is a risk of, on a personal level, loss of innocense, independance, free-thinking.

Yesterday a photo of Chavez (I had to look at the name under teh photo - that's how much I know of this guy). Whatever this person is doing, it will be something like that for us. That's the goal anyway. So, if what he's doing is something people can see the positive in, you will go along fine with all of this during a period of time the system is still holding. That's just part of it.

The 'urgency' people have been sensing. In part, they are picking up on other people picking up. There is also an urgency of time. Both of those things together are that stirring we're been hearing a lot about.

Everyone, that I hear anyway in the travel centers, are worried about distribution of wealth. Well we don't have any wealth to distribute and would be one of those people frollicking in the wind at the thought of getting everything for free. We've been poverty level since I can remember and live off the basics. Unless we're at a wedding or someone makes a special request, you'll find me in jeans and a t-shirt, even when I'm doing presentations. Anyway, when I focus on this, it just doesn't pan out as something that ends up working. You'll really want to be able to work with things you have in your own home - homeopathy, herbs, etc. know what they do for preventatives and even antibiotics.

Something happens with property taxes. I'm pretty sure they skyrocket so even people who have their homes paid off, end up struggling.

I think icp, lol, you thought I wouldn't advise watching the news. I didn't mean for it to come out that way. Watch it if you need to but keep a level head and don't believe everything you hear. If something doesn't make sense, leave the tv off and mediate or take a walk, what's really going on will come to you.

Which brings me to another item, children and mediation. I think Mumzy brought this up and wasn't certain why she felt it would be a necessity. Meditation is useful in general - why the children? They will be approached at an early age - whatever this "thing" like chavez is and will struggle withing. Meditation will save them (for lack of better words) it's something we will be able to teach them. Some will teach it with propaganda, but the type of meditation I am speaking of is neutral and for the individual Soul of the child to do what they came here to do and be as happy or content as possible.

(There's more) long night of dreams...I'll have to post it later we have the last part of the NY drive to do and we're taking off here. lol...my job really is 24/7.

Oh, the us is the last one to come on board 0 - that came through as well. And immigrants are especially important. I feel we are already in the process, like stations of bringing everyone in???? Like when we have wars and you're in another country as a captive but can run to an embassy that is of your own country. That = I have no idea what I just said, but that's the picture that came in.

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Why is the healthcare thing such a big deal in all of this? Because it's an industry. Just like you would go into a groccery store and you have frozen food, dairy, produce, etc. The gov't needs this on a world wide level - i think this is one of the "things" that is meant by the prvious post, "the u.s. is the last to come on board." It is being burried in the passions of the people though - ins. for the kids, ins. now that people have been layed off.

Healthcare for everyone isn't the bad idea. That it will over two decades or so be solely the property of the gov. is the missing link, the financial key that is truly behind the drive for health care.

The other passion that comes to me is everyone being treated equally. That to me is a no-brainer, but it should start with us, the people. When have any of us been able to control anything, one thing, and the verbal drive behind the gov. is supposed to be solely wanting everyone to be treated equal? The gov. will not be able to control emotions and what comes through very potently is that other countries that have some sort of dictator are supressing how poorly it is really running. They'll reveal only the 'happy' scenes, the non-poverty or suppressed areas and tell people this is what OUR way of doing things will do for you.

I also feel a great deal of people don't understand the callaps of the financial system - how it comes to be. I am getting:

"Understand this - how, in part why the financial crisis.

Because more money that we don�t have is being spent & printed, the value of the whole dollar which is based (I think on gold) will be less. In short, we don�t have as much gold as we do dollar bills. Because there is more paper bills than gold, the value of the paper is worth less. It will take more dollars to equal what use to equal one dollar. Therefore prices (in the number of dollars it takes to purchase an item) will be going up. The people will not be able to produce the number of dollars it takes to keep up.

They are mixing passions of past wrongs with what is really going on. They are playing on people�s sympathy. It acts as a sort of invisible wall, like a tower defense game. It is all strategy. Someone brought up chess game. It is along those lines but the depth of it is like the iceberg of the Titanic. You�re only seeing the tip. What�s really going to take us down is what�s underneath."

I really just woke up wanting Sabarro's or a turkey sandwich.


If this is all truly what it is that's being said can do for everyone by the gov. - I am positive I would feel the compassion over this other thing that feels so desperate. It's desperate at this time because there is still time and hope, but complacency has expired. IF you normally just watch the tv or feel badly about how the country has been running, leave the home, educate yourself, test the local agencies and their support of the people they proclaim. What you get is going to give you merely a glimpse of what's to come. In the end, you won't have the voice they say they are trying to preserve.

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Elleise
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One of the reasons I watch as many news programs as I do, is people are ALWAYS asking me questions. I have no idea why. One time a car pulled up on the sidewalk in front of me to ask for directions. I've frequently joked I must have an invisible tattoo or sandwich board sign which reads, "Welcome Center, Chamber of Commerce, General Information, ASK HER"

When I had my small accounting business, that invisible sign was on top of the building and read "Hopeless, Helpless, Downright Impossible, Come on in, We'll give it a shot."

I've been retired for over 5 years, and still have former clients calling and stopping me in the store to ask questions, many of which are based on current events. I feel so helpless when I must respond "I have no clue."

Another important aspect is keeping appraised of confirmations. So many of us are experiencing an increase in frequency and intensity of things coming through, as discussed in another thread here. I feel the need to recognize the trends and gather the confirmations, a compelling urge to prepare and share. Again, no clue why.

I listen closely not only to what is said, but how it is said, body language, facial expressions, etc, also considering the speakers point of view. This keeps me objective. Do their arguments seem contrite, or flawed, based on my logic? Do the facts they state need to be verified and what are the sources? Did that report have a biased tinge, or was it objective?

While all of us may not have abilities as strong as others, we each have a brain. My limited ability is strongly telling me our brains need to be engaged right now.

That's funny icp - you know I feel moreover that it's an energy that draws people.

I kid you not, I hate attention & I'll go to watch something that is being set up in a mall or in a parking lot and I'll jsut feel it...I'll say, "Not me..oh please not me..." and I'll start looking in my purse and someone will call on me to be a part of a demonstration or I'll win something because of the seat I'm in. I get the direction thing all the time and I'm dyslexic and feel so badly. I remember one time a blind couple asked me how to get somewhere and I was in the mmiddle of a parking lot and and thought how cruel my creator must be...but they were very patient with me and kind of chuckled actually.

I agree though on the news thing and if it didn't interfere with my stuff, I'd watch more. I have a lot to say, but not one thing to back it up. It's very important for what I say no to be of any particular group, person, etc. That's what I get anyway.


Well that was our restroom break
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Well, I'm not quite sure where to put this, but it ties in with or I should say aligns whith some of the energy that has been coming through.

I told my husband I don't believe in 'anti-christs' per se. I believe in waves of tyranny, rise & healing, conflict, but not a little devil man toting a pitchfork.

Anyway, awhile back I posted a thread, "Do you believe in an antichrist?" It was back then I had an undeciferable feeling regarding it.

Lately, dictators have really been tugging at me - like that game you play at Cracker Barrel - those pegs that align if you get them just right.

My husband and I just sat down to eat at the Piolot (travel center) and my husband asked me what iams are. I said, dog food I thnk. He said no, on a spiritual level. They were talking about it in the restroom here.

I don't personally enjoy feeling these things, but as it stands now, they'll have to euthanize me before I quit puting the pieces together.

I googled what is iams or tried to but ended up typing 'imam' instead. Below is an exerpt but a link so nobody point out it could have been taken out of context.

What is the 12th Imam

"Remarkably, the 12th Imam theory plays heavily into the world�s current concerns with Iran. The Shiite Muslim President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, is deeply committed to the Islamic Messiah, al Mahdi. There have been many through the years claiming to be the Hidden Imam but Ahmadinejad believes he is yet to come. He claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order to save the world, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation. Ahmadinejad claims he was �directed by Allah to pave the way for the glorious appearance of the Mahdi�. This apocalyptic directive includes some very scary proclamations.

This, if I'm not mistaken is on of obamas new friends he's working with. The dollar is slowly sinking as well and we have a threat o nour horizon. If this is the avowed beliefe of ahmadinejad, there isn't anything in this person's thinking to currently aid in a compliant state of peace.

Somehow this ties into something close in the making. I don't know if the iranian war is the target or not. It seems there will be an event though, here in the near future that pushes something along - I get a bulldozer, actually and a unified monetary system.

My husband said they did something like this with confederate money or the turn of it. Each state had a different type or note of currency. They unified it into on making the other type of no value. People ended up bartering.

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My husband asked me my take on Obama not going to the Berlin Wall.

I had about the same reaction I did to his anouncement the H1N1 was a national emergency. And this literally came out of nowhere.

I said, he's having a tantrum about something he didn't get his way with before - something in the past, like a bratty kid...I wanted (blah-blah-blay) and didn't get it, so I dont' want you...

My husband told me he wanted to speak some time ago for something and they/the Berlin Gov people wouldn't let him.

That about says it.

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We're in the Chicago area. We blew a back tire which bent the entire right side of the truck. Anyway, we're at a travel center for awhile.

2 headlines over the speaker caught my attention. One of them was about a show called "V." We rarely have t.v. unless we get a hotel. They played a clip having to do with health care and the media being directed NOT to put an organization in a "bad light". This is right on with what's coming through with impressions on current administration and slides into the freedom of speech thing I had picked up on earlier. I posted more on this under "Blogger prevented by cuba" I think. I'll have to go back and look. Money will be involved making it difficult to expose truths - there will be pressure subtle at first and then stronger. The waters are being tested in a lot of areas - seeing what is passable among the people.

As for the t.v. series itself, I have a feeling this series will either be cancelled or revamped. So, for now for curiosity sake, I'm going to try and take a peek and put my 2 cents in afterwards.

The other headline, I only caught the tail end, but someones' property bill (they just recieved) doubled, no renovations. Somewhere in here I spoke about property taxes continuing to skyrocket. Double is big, but I'm seeing it even higher upcoming so there also is something to watch if your counting your dollars. I do eventually see revolt of these increases as well as taxes. People get tired of it and do end up saying enough. They'll take a bit more for the time being but it's on the verge.

Locally, I see as well, tickets, fines and fees going up outrageously. They'll say it's due to the economy, in fact it is the politicians overspending and not wanting to be subject to the hit. They will be doing something especially with automobiles. Things always go up, but the items I'm seeing are not even in the ballpark of reasonable.

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Eloise, did you read the news on MSN about the $500 savings account they are planning to give to each child born in the US? I thought it was interesting because of what you have been writing about. One of the consistencies I see in the news is that the lower income bracket will receive more than the higher income bracket(which to me, personally, sounds like socialism, but that's besides the point). I am in the lower income bracket and I find this alarming for the future considering that I read somewhere you wrote about people having a sense of entitlement. I see this in a lot of kids, especially in my neighborhood, who believe they are entitled to take what they want with no respect for others because they have a hard start in life. I predict that this will get much worse. I'm not a strong psychic like the people here, probably only slightly and it comes and goes pathetically, but I take you all seriously. You seem to be on the money...pun intended. The "benefits" that seem to be falling into place have to be accounted for from somewhere and fines, tickets, fees, property taxes, etc. will probably be the course of action as people in the higher income brackets become more and more responsible for taking care of the lower income bracket, which is becoming a huge burden. Such a bummer, really, because as this becomes the norm, the American Dream will be so much harder to attain.

Hi Melody,

No I hadn't heard of the account thing but the entitlement thing good brother! ABSOLUTELY (not your imagination) PROMINENT! The chip on the shoulder, the no effort-just gimee what I want and I'll never go away is none other than busting at the seams. Word is getting out - to others that aren't even here yet, but I can't go into details on that one. You'll see it in the news though fairly soon.

With the entitlement thing though, here's what ends up happening. Now, we're just seeing the beggining. I'll even go on record that people (if they are honest with themselves) are feeling this beginning even if they can't see it entirely. That's why I write about this so much. I am hoping people will be able to track for themselves, "When the bough breaks" which it does so they will have something to survive the blow - that's why networking, family and neighborhood is so very important.

The entitlement wave, see, it's just everywhere, and when I say that I mean it litterally because there isn't any area my husband and I don't go into with his line of work. You see it in Walmart at the beginning or ending of the month and mid/month. You see it in the sauntering across the streets like, (YOU wait for me!) You see it during the day while others are at work. In Chicago, downtown, my husband and I will be driving for a delivery and we'll be cursed at by these sauntering people for litterally no reason, just entitlement.

Well, these people (if they are young) end up growing up and whatever jobs are left will be demonstrating this attitude in their service. These people if they are older will have kids feeling just as entitled as their parents and they'll grow up. Even while $'s are given, they don't have the concept of A.) The well "WILL" (mark these words) run dry & B.) Cost of living WILL increase prior to this and you're simply not going to get a raise. The gov.'s not going to see you as THAT special. C.) the entitlement people will be the ones they'll have to deal with themselves, meaning that attitude will be across from the desk/counter, etc. and it will be like looking into a mirror and just as unpleasant but with survival of race against race (within the entitlement) genre. This is going to get REAL bad inner-city. I see litteral blood/baths.

Finally, they (gov) are going to keep promising more and more funds for illegals and minorities in order to stay in power. Now here in the near future, the illegals, they will do something that makes all of the illegals/legal and the people will pay for those people in taxes on top of everything else.

Guess what? The people stop paying taxes that they use to and decide to stop working - this is slightly after the civil wars and becomes a revolt. The gov. will not be able to supply for all of the people of entitlement and they'll still have their own waiting on them with the same attitude they have. They won't be able to build anything because they won't know how. They'll only understand what it is to take what isn't theirs but that they felt they were entitled to.

2012/2013 is where something begins that hasn't yet in terms of taxes. It just continues to go up from there UNLESS something alters this course. IF left alone, I'd say 2013-2025 (I keep checking my 'reference' sense on this time span)is the span in which revolts really begin trickling at first and then really hitting the streets. Here is where you will want to already have had in place your networks, with those whom you trust and who offer in effort, ways that protect yourselves from the fall.

The entitlement people will be at a complete and devestating loss when this happens. After the dust settles the efforted people are the ones who rebuild and that is when unity - REAL unity begins. You will actually feel the difference that isn't there now. The scam will have cleared.

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Just to kind of reiterate what you're saying...in order for society to improve, we must first fall and then rebuild?

I'm curious to see the outcome of that, but at the same time, very scared.

Interesting stuff to think about. Pray, pray, pray for your children!

One more thing, which you probably already answered, but what do you see for the environment? Further deterioration or will restoration begin?

Because we are a society that thrives/lives by cause and effect, yes, things must fall down and away before we opt or are motivated to change our ways. We just don't have the discipline or balance to project past wants and immediate gratification. Those that do usually struggle against the majority that want everything and as much as they can get, now.

Prayer and also current action are what we're really going to need to make the difference, if there is going to be one. I use to tell my parents, sitting in a church praying vs getting up and handing someone your coat, which one keeps someone warm? God doesn't protect freedoms, man does. I believe God gives us strength to protect our freedoms and it's up to us how we go about doing that. I simply get a sense of urgency at this time both for the world as a whole and our children.

The environment, I struggle with this. Gov. will come together and inspire the masses by a commercial or front of "The Environment" for the environment we must...a.) b.) c.) but that won't really be the reason they are doing whatever it is they'll be pressing. So, in effect we will be the ones that will make the real difference in the environment: recycling, planting trees especially, conserving nature, etc. I do see a universal care for the planet more so now than in the past.

Way into the future though, I see we aren't living here though. In fact, I get the speculation or exploration of this is currently on the table but it's not out in the public of how seriously it's being considered. Things are grown in or hybrids are grown in almost a clinical atmospher. It's clinical & technological actually. It's hard for me to hold that vision because it is so far off before civilization is actually planted there. Eventually, it seems as though what we'll see and be integrating will be similar to the real-life/holograms - things will be there and we'll utilize them without the actual body of it being there. It's overwhelming when I look to this.

I keep seeing this 2012 refrence. I know it is the end of the Myan calender, but I am seeing a lot of similarities between this and the year 2000. People thought the world was ending at the stroke of midnight (I think because people are afraid of big round numbers ), but nothing happened.

Elleise, what do you see for 2012? Not so much in terms of politics, but in terms of the state of the country? I have been following your "stuff" for a while and it seems to make more sense every day.

Is 2012 as apocalyptic as the hype is pushing it to be? If so, what do we do to prepare? Are we going back to the stone age and living in huts?

Networking- working with each other on a local scale, growing food/ canning, having a gun for protection, learn to barter- These are some of the things you have mentioned in the past- is there anything else you could add to this list?

-whoisjohngalt

In my opinion, no. 2012 is the end of the Mayan calander for a reason specific to their culture.

However, we are here in the now & what I get is something in the name of taxes really taking a hit 2012/13 onward and increases from there. I don't see the end of the world no matter how far off into the future I look. I do though see a combustion or rising up of the people vs the gov. People actually are then willing to go to jail, but in hoards.

This is where the "entitlement" people's devestation begins. Because where there was before the "Victim" person's outcry, it is replaced by literal spirit and fight by the people being subject or pressed to their limit. This is where the entitlement people will not be able to build anything and where the efforted people will in fact build more than they ever have.

I see canning, land, gardens, ect., things that aid or bridge -for many of the people from here to there as a struggle of sorts of the people, by the people in the name of freedom while they continue to fight the good fight, not a monetary fight - to see what they can get.

I know I have odd dreams and this one's no different, lol. I had one a couple of days ago.

It felt long but the idea or message was short.

India ran the U.S. It wasn't a take over like a war, it just happened, like a virus. They would get educated there and come here and buy everything up but they wouldn't advertise that's how they were doing it. Also, taxes were evaded - like they could get out of them for decades. So, the races were, Muslim, Eastern Indian, Spanish, in the business sect, here.

The next part was audible though. All that was said was,

"You will be leaving what you once would know as the 60's era and will be heading into what you will have known as the 70's era. Those events will be significant."

So I asked my husband what the 60's represented. He said, free-love, drugs, etc. I asked what about the 70's? He said, war.

After the dream, I felt we would be going into war or having war repeat itself but it's a functioning war. More political than anything. That's just the feeling I had

The white house cleaning house or CLEANING HOUSE?

So, as I've mentioned earlier we would see a lot of headlines and unless you know what you need to read to understand something don't listen to the headline itself half hazzardly.

You're going to see a lot of parties and people leaving in the white house. They or most of them won't be making a statement or resigning because they feel it would be better for the movement if they did. There have been deals made - severence packages if you will. They will be going out in certain ways and according to a certain plan.

In the meantime, the healthcare thing - well, it will pass in some form. That part is too late to stop. But, what it is isn't to late to learn about and can be inhibited from further progress in the future.

It is what it is and what it is, is here. I know immigrants, single parents or just minorities and people in general are sick of HMO's and how much health care is being inflated or simply not offered. However, healthcare is difficult for everyone to afford whether you're black, hispanic, white - whatever.

What healthcare - this one (gov.) ends up being is the highway to everything we once did for ourselves and held dear in making decisions - what to do what to go without to get where we need to be. From this point everything, and I stress everything, will be made with a deal outside of ourselves and not only in this country but outside with whatever their needs are or wars that are going on within them - from the water plants and farming commodities to the types of cotton we have in our underwear, innoculations, etc. It won't be right away, but you'll find your doctor telling you that you're now scheduled for ABC innoculation or procedure..

Until that happens though, we'll have people with toungue in cheek or caukled chin going..."Mmmhhhhhmmmmm, it's a bout time!"

Buyer beware - keep educating yoursef!

This one is what I like to call bitter-sweet. It's good in one sense but caution or patience should or is what I think this thing is coming through for.

Civil wars -

Where we had and in so many cases still have the African community calling for recognition and/or reparations, we are going to be entering into an era where, (I think I posted the African American had a large window of 10 years - being 2/3 through those years already, so maybe 4 - 7 more years and that's it) other races move past them. It will be old, the complaining the outbursts, etc. Individuals after that will be the ones who either sink or swim.

Civil wars will be something especially with the hispanic community and the natives of the U.S fighting to have their voices heard for awhile, but then they simply start taking things into their own hands.

We'll have the Asian and Eastern Indian communities standing for recognition in the forefront being financial backers.

So it's good everyone is coming together like the colors of a rainbow, but the civil wars, as of now I don't feel them extinguishing could be aided in and with compassion and respect no matter who you are or what color.

The U.S isn't a bad example - it stands for freedom and opportunity, but if you listen long enough to anyone that promotes hate and fear, you can see the half empty bottle in just about anything.

I urge the high road, the high self without separation but in unity and aid in the fellow man - NOT race. Some of this still has the opportunity to be subdued. Hands together!

Still at the hotel - and hearing about an election in MA.

This is all feelings and believe me, it can be wrong, but whatever is going on in that state, feels like it's washed up. I can't interpret that any further without watching tv and news stations incecently.

The woman I see, feels week though in regards to it - I haven't seen a picture of the oppostion. What's even more important here though is the bottom line.

What's coming through, at least right now, is that the currents of real issues are rising above or getting momentum of the repression tried in the past.

If you've ever read the tale of " The Boy Who Cried Wolf" that feels to me the same type of energy going on right now with people's tax money and speculation of what they understand to be democrats and their tactics (too much force), right now that is. Anything is saveable, though.

There have been people crying this or that about racism and the people have been patient, but enough is enough. They want the high road of everyone working together, but (and even the higher ups understand) nothing lasts forever and everyone wants to be taken care of.

I feel the health care thing goes through but it will have a face-lift so to speak. I don't feel Obama as strong as he thought himself to be and confused actually as to why this is happening. Ah, youth.

I feel the republicans will try and move their own agenda, but the people are going to be sick of both parties.

Unlike political agenda, they really do want all for one and one for all and justice something they can believe in again with negative people lying where they may, and regarless of race!

If you're banking on vocals such as Al Sharpton, I'd get out now while your buck is ahead. Those voices lose momentum as well.

This is just an ad-on to everything that has been coming through.

I feel there are going to be more and more geographical emergencies or disasters in regions we haven't heard of happening in the past - Co. Rockies, cities, unique places, etc. in addition I feel we'll be hearing about sink-holes and even more earthquakes.

Today, I clicked on the tv and a news headline had something to do with the administration not feeling they want to put money in NASA but to global/climate warming.

NOW this felt like a punch to my stomach. This decision came through to me as "Got you back" kind of deal. Meaning, it isn't so much that the admisnistration is doing the honorable thing in not spending money in outer space, but that, where there was going to be money filtering in somewhere some how and isn't, this can be made up for as well as just penalizing funding that could have gone to outer space - that's the feeling I get with the NASA thing. But, ha-ha, got you back.

I also feel that Obama the person himself, really isn't connected to any of the speaches going on. He might be topically, here and there adressing something, but that's about it. Other people are decideing his next move.

I feel like playing the lotto, if we could imagine having a miriad of entries and sitting back half way certain our odds are good. Obama has a miriad of enteries with people around him and he really truly doesn't know some things, the currents as to what's going on, but pretends to understand.

He leaves it to others to write out, tell him or decide for him what to do for the most part and he kind of pretends to understand what everyone is talking about. Not that he's stupid. He's just not to deep into the pool with what's going on but for what people tell him and personal buttons.

The election or next election will have dirty pool written all over it on every side/both parties and an emergence of a stronger push for an independent or relatively new margin for a new and improved old party

Emotions on everyside will be tugged at and financing is going to be wierd, like all the issues that have been passed here lately have an almost limitless credit card - tax monies that haven't happend yet but are in order to cover the deficit but they'll be hidden.

In a nutshell, why welfare & tax increases won't help us.

NJ Loses $70 Billion

I just heard a news story interviewing a delegate from CA. I love CA. Regardless of everything, my husband and I have plans moving there, but the entire state relies on the upper 10% of the wealthy to foot everyone's bills, from illegal immigrants being treated through their local hospitals to housing and food stamps for those who are here legally.

CA was more than happy and really leaning on the healthcare bill going through. It would free up more funds for the state. IF this is thing is happening, right now before our eyes, why is it so difficult to see it spreading further?

I get feelings, even if they aren't popular ones, but people need proof, so when someht9ing finds me, I just put it out there. I didn't go looking for this one.

It really seems if we're going to make anything work, instead of the gov't wiping the slates clean, we the people should start wiping ours and have faith in our abilities to change things for the better. Individuality has lees corruptive potential than power houses threatened by losing control. That one is my opinoin

I do agree with our President's lack of connection. While we were watching the State of the Union Address, I blurted out, "He's a Puppet, who is the Puppet Master?" Not sure where that came from. I had sat down with a determination to keep an open mind and objectivity. However, a strong feeling of aversion crept over me. I was stunned at the contradictions within the speech and towards the end said out loud, "Who wrote this? Do they think we are THAT stupid?"

I have watched and listened, perhaps too much, and come to the conclusion this man is not a great orator as many claim. He is a good READER, as evidenced by the need for teleprompters in a 6th grade classroom. That was truly unbelievable, and I didn't believe it when my husband first mentioned it.

Undercurrents. I'm stuck on the undercurrents, way too many and they run way too wide and deep. I find myself wondering who is standing behind the desk chair in the Oval office and what are their goals and agenda.

I think it's time for me to take your advice Elleise, and step back from this for a little bit. There are other things I can concentrate on, which may provide some clarity.

As wierd as this sounds, my husband spoke firmly with me a few days ago and said, "You of all people should be used to this. You're clairvoyant!" This was in reference to Obama. And believe it or not when you said,

"I've come to the conclusions this man is not a great orator as many people claim."

I can't tell you how close to the Golden Gate that is. While they, the administration and their followers have been tauting "people are just not happy with a black man in the white house." in face of opposition, they are basically keeping a good many of the population submissive and naive. I have the term 'dumbed down' but, they aren't stupid, just the opposite. But if you convice them the truth is evil, they wont be enthusiatic or supported in numbers to investigate. They'll just accept whatever is handed and believe it 100%.

One of the real tragedies is that the more people they can convince to take gov't benefits, once they do or have unemployment extended (we're one of those people) their aim is to have those people reliant on the Fed. aid and in return keep voting them in again and again. The average person won't want to lose "free" money. I believe the unemployment will be extended until they have this clock-like thing in place. I wrote about it earlier as the Gov't collecting "Toggles", automotic, food, banks, etc.


Recently, I've gone out of my way to watch and listen to both sides of the media and shows like Fox/Glenn Beck. I noticed one thing in particular. The shows asked tough questions, yes, of the white house, but provided proof, written, video and audio evidence of what was going on and why they are questioning. And, if you don't follow politics, like myself, they take you step by step in laymans terms what is going on and how to understand it.

As it stands now, I feel we will have undercurrents of Believers and Non-believers. The "Non-believers" will be believers who see and the "Believers" will be those who follow that can't.

Everything, right now is opposite of what's being spun. You almost have to shake your head like, pinching yourself and remember wha'ts real even if it doesn't feel popular, know their are others . I promise we will find ourselves telling ourselves this.

The last thing I heard, my husband told me. He said, Obama said he is "agnostic to tax increases." I dropped my BLT plate and it smashed on the floor. He said, what?

I said, "He's saying just like agnostics believe there's something out there, they just don't call it God, if he doesn't believe in the term 'tax-increase', when it does happen, which it will, he's not accoutnable."

I could not believe he used THAT term either. I actually looked it up in the dictionary and here's what Webster says:

Agnostic - (coined by Thomas Henry Huxley) a person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God, or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena

Applying this definition to the President's statement....OK, now I'm really confused. Is he saying his mind is so limited that he "cannot know whether there" will be tax increases or not? Or is he referencing the limitations of our human minds, in that we cannot know?

I think the word Agnostic is generally understood to many as "On The Fence." There may be a God, there may not, I don't know, I don't care, etc. This was my understanding of the word's meaning, until I looked it up.

Applying this "not quite accurate" definition to what the President said...... OK, now I'm flabbergasted! Is he saying there may be tax increases, or maybe not, I don't know, I don't care? Does he have a clue? I heard the comment on TV while I was at my computer, so I can only guess he didn't have a teleprompter.

So now I have another question raging through my brain. To go along with "Who is behind the desk chair in the Oval Office?"
WHO is running those teleprompters?

I'm giving all this a little too much real estate in my brain right now. Before I "evict" these questions for a much needed respite, there is something else which keeps popping into my head each time the President or others around him speak.

If you repeat something enough times, it will believed to be truth.

I don't know who originally said this, and I'm certainly paraphrasing the quote. However, it certainly explains how almost verbatim wordage is emanating from so many mouths.

Remember way back when I wrote about people not being able to afford their taxes. Some even stop paying them?

This was a precognitive event. It's not quite here yet, but soon this cycle will begin. At this time, however, people won't want to think about it.

There will be situations where people/groups, small at first will go to jail rather than pay this monstrocity of what's going to be. If you need an example (a glimpse)of how this becomes to be, currently, if you have a family of 7 or more, you easily qualify, in food asistance alone, over $1000.00/mnth without having to have a job. You also can include in that house hold refuges who can not legally work. People who do have jobs, pay for these people to eat, live and reproduce. There isnt a half way. This is the system as it stands.

Obama will need more and more of these people's vote to stay IN OFFICE. His preformance really is flatline but for the debt he's pushing the country over the edge with. First black president or not.

The only way to support people who don't work, is to raise taxes of the people who do get up in the morning and go to work each day.

There is a larger agenda than just Obama though. It was in place before he even got there. A group of people put the spotlight on him, feeling strongly that he'd further their cause. He may want to stay in office, but this "system" was developing and in place before he even got there. Busch was a part of it as well as the clintons. It gets fuzzy prior to this for me.

The feeling I have is this system has an international tie to it. There are great financial rewards among the dictators of the world. There are things that are presented to the public like a commerciel or play, then there is this other thing that wheels and deals before there's even a hint of it to the outside world. It's like what we have as a stock market, but privately owned by a few select individuals and groups who benefit from their associations with these individuals.

This groups/(s) are outside of obama for the most part. His thing is mostly just ego. He's not a "big fish." Obama has Chicago politics and ties which in the big huge realm of things is just a spit in the bucket, but that's about it. He's well aware people are about to get hit with steep hikes and knows taxes will go up but he's going to call it something else in his mind, like "fairness." These taxes will affect everyone across the board, not just the wealthy.

If this was a virus, many if not all who understood this type of growth to be one that would continue would take measures to protect their land and their families from taking over them. This is something that is happening. It's happened before and it's a bit of too many cooks in the kitchen to say the least...

How much does the federal gov. own?

It took me forever to find where I wrote about illegals being legal. Somewhere else, I tied this into the health care bill. I'll have to find that later. This quote was taken way back in 2009 and it's now May of 2010. It helps me get a grasp of a timeline and anxiety about visions and issues.



Below is a link from an articl my h usband was talking about with AZ passing some type of bill that allowed authoritis to investigate/ask questions if there was a fair amount of evidence that led them to believe you were in this country illegally.

Immigration Protests

Now I couldn't have planned this any better myself. It's one thing to feel something and try to help people brace themselves, it's another when you've got proof. And, here a picture is worth more than 1000 words.

Here is just a glimpse of people living here illegally that we pay for in terms of housing, food and soon to be health coverage.

I am absolutely NOT against immigration but I feel strongly, if you want to be here, you need to do your part. Right now immigrants don't have to pay any form of taxes for 7 years and those are the ones here legally. They sign over thier businesses to newly entering immigration family members/friends to extend those tax free dollars.

This in part along with the health care bill which will allow for amnesty will be what collaspes the country. I urge people to look below the surface of things that simply sound good, because they are going to be things that are in all liklihood, too good to be true.

I totally agree. There are so many loop holes in the system for immigrants and also for illegals. I feel very guilty thinking that but it doesnt fit right with me how they are exempt from taxes for seven years. I live in Japan and I started paying taxes during my second year of residency.

I stand with the Arizona Governor and the people of Arizona. I admire any person of influence who stands up for and protects the people of American. To boycot Arizona for trying to protect themselves is a political ploy for dishonest politicians to gain votes.

I remember you have felt this coming for quite some time, Elleise. There are smaller issues all over our country that will grow and become very troublesome. All it takes is for one negative voice to be planted and a minor issue can become a nation-wide threat of freedom and liberty.

Me too.

In all honesty, I feel the negative voices and complaints, etc. will be appropriated attention for votes. So we can expect those to rise and continue. Politicians will want to gain the trust of the impressionable and emotionally driven.

Expect voting issues to fall in prisons, as well as within the healthcare bill. Somehow, it comes to making amnesty the right way/most effective way to go but it won't be a publicized issue. It will fall amid the piles of paperwork.

I've looked into this AZ law and I concure with the govenor. Before we left the hotel we were previously staying, a group of illegals, of all places rented an room above us. They are here for farming season. They were all screaming "viva america." They're right. America is a beautiful place to be, but I urge people to think of america like you would a raft in the middle of the ocean.

If clouds of people came at you wanting to climb aboard, it might be great thinking, what your goals may be and what's in it for you, but common sense has to kick in...it can't hold and save everyone on it's own and our gov't doesn't make any money. It's taken locally and federally in taxes!

I love the saying, "Just because I speak with an accent, doesn't mean I think with one." My great grandmother is an immigrant and so is my grandfather. They came over here legally and paid taxes.

If you're here legally, there really shouldn't be an issue with the AZ bill. It would be like police being stationed at a 4-way stop sign and checking people who appear drunk or otherwise incoherent, asking for my legal license to drive. And, even if I didn't give them cause, I wouldn know I had my registration papers and license to drive and would know they were just doing their job.

This law has nothing to do with discrimination, no matter how much people scream that it does, but more to do with trying to gain some type of control over something that is spiraling out of it.

I listened to much debate on the AZ bill, most of which is spinning and "pot-stirring." The bill is based on our current Federal law - DUH, Mr President! Much has been dicussed here about the creation of "Crises." We HAVE to act NOW! and having laws forced through Congress in midnight votes. I have the sense we are watching yet another crisis in the making and it's ludicris.

If you are pulled over for a traffic violation, what is the 1st thing they ask for? Ethnicity, Nationality, Citizenship is irrelevant. If you don't have your driver's license, proof of insurance and registration, you've violated the law.

I have compassion for those who come here seeking a better life. But if they all come, the situation here will become much closer to what they left behind, with little opportunity or support. We've been promised the Moon by the current administration, and those promises have been heard around the world. I find myself doubting the reports of a decrease in illegals coming across the borders due to our high unemployment rate.

You're right on the money here icp. The reports are not going to reflect, not most of them anyway, what is really going on. If we were to really see the numbers a riotous ousting would commence and they know it.

I expect to be asked question, especially these days and I am whether it's driving or carrying a bag of recycles across the highway. I don't have a problem with it unless I forgot my purse or something. I just bring my documents. It's a logical step and a necessary one at that.

Someone brought up a really good point as far as jobs go. It isn't that with the unemployment so high that people aren't willing to do the jobs that immigrants will do, they are more than willing to do those types of jobs.

However if you are a U.S. citizen you will need more than one of them because as a citizen, taxes (fed & State), dis. insurance among other SS taxes are taken out. An immigrant, let alone an illegal immigrant is paid in cold cash. None of them are reported coming in and nothing is reported to be taken out.

They are also given food assistance. Even if you are here illegally you can file as and be deemed as refugees which the people who are citizens that do have jobs also have their taxes coming out of their paycheck to pay for food assistance programs.

You are exactly right about there eventually being more of what they left coming soon to the U.S if people of ALL races don't pitch in and do their fair share.

Make no mistake...

The reforms we're hearing a great deal about have to do with money. Even if a group originaly decided no to go along with fed. aid but then decided to and "said" they now understand how they were wrong, simply sold out.

There was a greater reason financially than in principle to go forward independantly. They WILL have strings attached, especially in the school systems, where the children will be taught certain things in certain ways and it will be according to Fed. guidlines, no matter how cool the spokes person appears to be.


Spend quality time with your children. Teach them how to hear their own feelings, thoughts and balance their good and bad days.

I just read something about the DOW falling due to global worries and holding Europe's financial woes responsible.

My feeling is it isn't going to be Europe that halts the U.S. recovery.

Any person with any common sense or that actually goes out in public, to the businesses, talks to people, their neighbors, makes conversation at the local market, etc. vs just listening to the headlines and bloging with opinions, knows beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a country that is already broke bailing out with billions upon billions of dollars at a drop of a hat isn't a country that is rising to any occasion but simply hoping the complacents out there just accept that they know what they are doing and doing it honestly because, well, it's them.

It isn't only greed that's going to take us down, but the waste of time and energy pointing the finger at opposing parties and races.

I say start over with new blood and ethics developed out of putting personal feelings aside and using common sense as to what works instead of agendas and special interests with everyone working together.

wow,

At least I am seeing how long it takes me to get over something that comes through. I don't like reading the news, I don't enjoy hearing hate-stuff from either side. It's been a month since I last put it out there what was coming through politically. Electronic journaling. I like that:)

Somewhere in the middle, though, is hope and reguvenation. Like a good garden, it's going to come out of the "compost" of what's out there!

Be absolutely on the look out for racial guilt! That doesn't mean have a free pass to be mean, that means, BE on the LOOKOUT for things that make you feel guilty for having common sense and being deemed a "hater" or hate spreader or someone that doens't want you to see "Unity". It's a ploy~!

I agree completely. The ruse of making one feel guilty is to gain compliance and to diminish those in opposition. I do fear there are "forces," well versed in the Art of War, utilizing political correctness to force and shame us into unwarranted, and possibly dangerous,tolerance.

I am not a conspiracy nut, merely a history buff who is trying to connect the dots.

EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew there was a reason I needed not to allow myself to watch news specifically having to do with this administration.

If a headline found me, that's one thing. But, seeking it out, no.

I think I've been here for about 7 years. I don't think there's anything I haven't shared w/my readers. I've had my bouts of ups and downs and having sight doesn't prevent those things from happening. It's a choice and usually, at least with me, I like to think I'm wrong and what I see physically is real - it's the world we live in.

Before Obama was elected or I should say before I took a look at his picture, I heard all sorts of good things. Coming from an abusive marriage, not once but twice, it was wonderful to hear he supported women's issues!

Someone asked me a few months before he was elected, who I thought would win. The person felt Hillary - I said, Obama will win. The person said I had a funny look on my face and I said, "Oh, it happens, it's like Alice falling down the rabbit hole."

So, that was then. Genuine psychics and clairvoyants aren't usually if ever going to always be able to tell a person, even ourselves, what we want to hear.

I've been in two very bad, domestic, relationships. One had money, the other was allergic to work. The feeling though, that feeling where you second guess yourself, your common sense, are called horrible names and embarrassed...it's drawn out and you're made an example of...ashamed for even trying to stand up for yourself, and often it took coming to terms with risking everything just to make the decision that it's now or never when you muster up the nerve.

I'm not a republican, I'm not democrat and I've heard each side's arguements. We need a new party. They are both so far out of the loop they are bringing the rest of the country down with their personal agendas.

Having said this, what this current administration makes me feel, is like a flashback when I was in an abusive relationship.

They were all in to me if I was down on my luck, crying and needed them, in their eyes to survive. As soon as I started feeling my own opinions or saying how we could improve something, man I was cut down like a rotting trunk in the forrest.

After my last post, I was sent this video. I just about passed out from the adrenalin that coursed through my heart. This is precisely what I feel is going on.

I didn't read through all of the comments, but a few at the top were pretty graphic, just FYI.

Who Are You?

In one of the yahoo forums, after the oil spill, I wrote - I copied it down,

"Be on the look out for something along the lines of Obama saying he can't drill or feels obligated to shut the off shore drilling down. There will be contracts that follow shortly after outside the u.s.."

The oil is another toggle in the clock, but you'll see "good-guy" stuff to keep people saying, "Look, would someone looking out for the little people, possibly be trying to powerhouse the country or sell it off? Look at all the wonderful things he's trying to do...He's going to target special interest groups and maybe even re-do some of the things he had originally to try and get back the trust of the people he's losing.

I believe real freedom is being responsible and willing to seek out the details and possibly face some of the answers we might not have wanted to be the ones we had hoped to find.

From what I can keep track of so far - Big Ben, is what I call it, these are the names of our toggles...

Housing (fannie/freddie)
Transportation (automotive/car/company)
Fuel/Gas/Oil (spill)
Electricity (GE)
Banking Industries (too many to count)
Health Industry (Between those that won't meet gov. guidelines or be able to afford the penalties for having something outside the gridlines or cost to the companies - most if not all will be gov. run).

All of these things have had to have some sort of "emergency" take over or major gov. overhaul with bills that haven't or couldn't be read thoroughly and were forced through..

Unless i've missed something, the only thing left is the food industry, which should if my calculations are correct fall under the health bill somehow and farmers will be gov'd as well. I'm curious to see if Walmart comes into the picture?

Based on your analogy, we are on the same course Chavez has pursued in Venezula, and has just recently seized control of the food industry. With no successful models of socialistic government on a national level, I can not understand why so many leaders around the world are pursuing this.

Is it the egotistical "I can do it better," or the most efficient way to achieve ultimate, unchallengable power?

None of the above.

What it is, is that, if we are or could be honest with ourselves - people overall are genuinely compassionate. No matter how any one person is bad, mean or hurtful, we - deep down want and feel better, seeing the good, the hope.

Where there were dictatorships, they underestimated one thing -one important and something only an egotistic mania could overlook...

It's so simple too.

What's in today is gone tomorrow, the attention span of the American society is fickle. Because of that, we'll embrace practically anything! That's the country the mindset we live.

However, don't mistake this country for one that can or wants, once the "gig" is up, to be controlled, no.

Where dictatorships scouted the many who knew nothing else, here we've already experienced FREEDOM! We're not likely to give that up. Some people will risk everything to preserve it, others want to preserve it but are tempid in their walks.

If you seek it out, you'll see that dictatorships are losing control. Tianamin (sp) sorry...that video that played in a previous post. It's there.

The U.S, even if you have the minimal of math skills, you can see that we don't have the ability to sustain what's going on...However...

If we team up with othe countries who are losing control that have (the dictators) who have financing...

Peace and unity...in a differnt way (peace-out)

Thank you for that reassurance! But there are so many parallels to history right now, it's frightening. We have been following your advice here and from so many others to prepare for bad times. I'd like to think I am one of those people who would risk everything to maintain our freedom, if not for myself, for my children and grandchildren.

From what I'm getting, what comes through as far as the how this comes out in the end, parents and people overall who have had a feeling and little by little physical evidence is beginning to align, especially people who don't have hate or racial issues, those are the people who really end up doing quite well and survive their own timeline in all of this. Those are the ones and their children who end up flourishing.

Hate groups and people with politcal, racial distractions with most of their passions going to "It's because I'm this or that" or "The white man doesn't want us in their country." Those are the ones that end up falling like a rock from the empire state building.

Negativety will do nothing as far as survival goes and when the gov. and welfare system falls, which it will, there will be nobody there to help them. What was fun in the form of tangents will be a far cry from the effects of having to survive.

All of the people who joined in with them in their rantings and such, they'll be too busy fending for thier own, which, withought skills and gut instincts, little by little, the little they thought they had before and complained about, will fall through the sifters like sand.

The ones that can take a seed and grow fields with it, understand the earth and respect the life force, Native American Indians especially, end up lieading and living the way of the future.

If I wasn't who I am and someone else, if they could even hold my attention, were to say the things that I write about. I think the first thing I'd say, even if it was inside my own head was, "You're serious. I have real issues to deal with."

One thing both my husband and my parents can agree on, even if what I have to say or feel is a pain is this, - "if it's going to happen, somehow, someway, it always seems to happen to YOU first."

I have or had, feeling issues with Bing - it's a search engine and I am down right stupid when it comes to tech/web, etc. I won't sign up with it search with it, nothing (haven't a clue why and I could be criss-crossing with the other search engines. But here's what I got right now).

I will never, not ever just 'go with the flow' and back what someone else or group of people tell me to or pressure me to without seeing it, PHYSICALLY, not numbers, not a spokesperson, not hollywood or politically, but for myself. I'm not really interested what it costs me in doing so.

I've been in the crossfire of Pro bush/pro obama people, but I have no feelings for either to be honest. People deserve better than the two of them put together. People are also passionate and they'll go with whatever is set in front of them and told that this is all there is. It's not true, for the record, but that's what they are told and I'd say, 7 times out of 10 believe it.

People rely on the internet. I'm currently working on a back-up. People who are regular clients or friends and family have a way to get in touch with me, no matter what.

In short, I did a tiny experiment, but what I felt and what the experiment, at least this one, showed, is that there's a collective eye.

There's the IP address. I understand that much at least, but the feeling I am getting, is that the internet will be under or at least channel people's identity as a whole. There's more, but I have to sit figure how to word it.

I dont know where I posted about transportations runing into eachother, I think it was a dream I posted about, but in the dream, subs, trains and planes ran into eachother or there was an experiment going on so that there were crazy accidents here and there.

A week ago I told my husband I saw a train bomb in the news and it wasn't what I thought. I told him what I felt it was going to be was two trains runing into eachother.

These accidents feel to me to have something to do with sensories and radar/sonar and they are chips embeded within the components of transportational devices - like the computer parts are contracted and somehow some area is being tampered with through these contracts of building a dashboard or somethings.

Train crash

My husband and I have an understanding or a game that we play. He shows me a picture or a bit of a video and asks me what i think. He already knows I don't want to know to much about it.

So, there was a skinny grey haired man my husband showed me. I think he might have been in the govt already and was up for re-election. He was talking at something in Las Vegas? I'm allowed to ask questions of my husband.

The first thing I said was, he's putting on a show. He's already made a deal or a deal has been handed him which he profits from handsomly through tax dollars to step down. It won't be directly revealed how people will be funding this person's retirement, but they do.

So, even if he doesn't get re-elected and the people think they've made a vctory, that was the plan all along. They need to keep paying attention.

His standing down is a show so the people feel the gov. is listening to them. Look for a few more other dismissals as a bigger elections draws near. It's presented to these other people as well as this person, but this older person didn't need it as much, but to stand down for the bigger good of this movement.

I think the older guys name was hary reed but I'll ask my husband when he wakes up to be sure. But he already knew...that was the biggest feeling I had from this person and I felt sorry for the victory, if there is one from his leaving that people feel secured by, because it isn't real.

I'm not really going to the "Revelations" thing. I mean I feel strongly the bible was an interpretation of spiritual visionaries, but I don't beleive it is about one set time. More of a projector (written) of historic cycle and we're moving closer to an end of a similar cycle, but there's rebirth afterwards.

Anyway, I sat down and clicked on the TV and all I heard was China. I'm dealing with personal things and I just wasn't up for headlines.

But, I'll pass this on and maybe someoen else has some input. I keep seing the number 5. When I look to the number 5 there are 5 government/country type powers -dictatorship or not. This is the end or maybe it's there now, but I don't get the feeling that it is as prevelant. There are too many little countries. These are 5 and I want to say they are names as such.

There are economical currents or markets and they are connected in ways the little people haven't a clue. There are ups and downs and downs and ups and they are currently separate to an extent but they are all connected. When I heard China, I got the whirly thing (maybe its an aneurism, lol) but what came to me was a one world currency.

I don't know or feel a good or bad effect. Dows anyone else know what that would do if there were one world currency? I also get there is another punge in the market and it will be bigger than the one befoe.

I had to go back to see when I started this thread. It was back in May of 2008. That day marked the day I actually had the nerve to come public with the very things that give me panic attacks and sleepless nights.

So, one of the reasons I write is purely selfish. Once upon a time I would write these things on scraps of paper, just to get them out of my head (so I thought) then in journals but truthfully, I'd end up throwing them out on emotional days or when I was angry for feeling things that aren't always fun to feel.

I read through the first post and at the time I didn't have anything physical to back it up or tell me which is what. Now I believe that the "Independant" party that I saw then has to do with T-party people and just simply more and more people on both sides becoming aware of just what the gov. has in store with its policies, who they really are and the reality of the decisions they are making for the American people.

Enough time has passed where people are really just having to come to terms with what they are hearing vs what those words have to show, and they are in opposition with eachother. Who do they trust? People they barely know or their gut instincs and personal intellect?

I came across a clip and it spoke measures to me. I feel strongly that more and more people are feeling what this woman put so effectively into words.

Average Middle Class American Exhausted With "Change"

When I look to elections I actually feel or what is presented to me are 3 currents. At first I thought it meant 3 parties. That could still be the case, but one of the currents is a black thick like tar and it's on the bottom, under the other two. I think the tar is Voter Fraud. I'll have to keep an eye on that.

I've discussed what I feel is coming and I believe people have the ability to slow this down monumentally with their votes.

Some may feel it is paranoid, but if it weren't for this particular thread I would still have myself believing I was paranoid about everything I wrote back in May of '08. I go back and read the words just to keep myself sane.

I believe something with food stamps will be increasing and by this I mean to some people they may be doing cartwheels, others will finally concede to being on them, but this thing is bigger. I see more and more families going on foodstamps, a relief at first to some, however, imagine 60-70% of the nation's public going or having designated days to go to Walmart. Don't think it's possible? Pay close attention to numbers that come out talking about "benefit" programs.

Once people become dependant on a little debit card with $200 - $1050/mnth for food, what happens should there be a glitch of some kind either in the groccery stores or the welfare system itself and that money is no longer there for whatever reason?

It is the working public that provides that money to the people who use it. The more kids you have the bigger your debit card. The less you work the more your debit card qualifies you for and if you house illegal immigrants you are not required to give that person's personal information up but if they are in the household they count as a dependant, thus your debit card goes up.

There is a system, I feel in place that has to do with control, but it feels like it is in sheeps clothing under the guise of "Sharing."

My emotions toil inside because I do feel compasionate and want to share, but the way I would do it is with a food share or farmers market which puts the control with the people. So, say if you work the land you all share in the rewards, not hand outs or handing over control of your personal life to people who have $200-$300 lunches and say that they are there for you.

Not only do tax payers pay for those little debit cards but the $200-$300 lunches of the people that are "there" for us.

You'll have to look closely this year at candidates because republicans won't be republicans and democrats for the most part will be either liberals or democrats. Independants are gaining momentum, but I feel they will be up against guilt and social pressure to keep the "change" alive...

Best course of action, look under stones you've been leary to turn over and see for yourself!

o.k. I don't even have an intro for this one...

My Representitives...

Maybe it was way back when, but boy I can't side step this with what I feel and the economy and literal unity.

I feel like I'm playing left field and caught this ball in the gut and whether or not this happened yesterday, last month, 2 years ago...what's coming through to me is that this feeling from wherever it came hasn't changed, at least for me in the present.

There's something else here.

I knew I wrote this...to be able to go back 3 years ago and find it, about the "5"...well technology does has its virtue...this is real!

Visions and Preparations of the Future

This has to do with the "visions and preparing for the future" thread

This was back in 2008 I felt these things to the point I really finally just had to write them down somewhere. It's been brought to my attention that these issues are now actually being publically addressed.

If and I say if, say what I felt and what is being addressed happen to coincide in reality, that affirms even moreso what we need to take into our own responsibility as real.

I'm going back through some of the earlier posts. This was taken back in '08. I have precognitive dreams. They "feel" different than more normal mish-mash or emotional ranting dreams. They linger and they kind of tickle or give me tingles when I think back to them and their details stand out, meaning I remember them no matter how much time passes.

I remember this one...it was more the dread in reaching for the head of lettuce that stands out the most.

Here, where we live or have lived, rarely do we see a head of lettuce too much over $1.30 or so. Normally I'll purchase it for .99.

I'm going to go on record that I believe no matter what the government tells your or news healines telling you you're being paranoid about inflation, they aren't being forthcoming.

I believe wholeheartedly this dream is for-warning about inflation w/in, especially, the food industry.

I believe it will be subtle at first. The news will down play it and tell you how great the numbers are and little by little I see loaves of bread almost doubling.

It will seem like "well, we can make it up in other areas" at first, maybe avoiding pricy items or switching brands, for a while anyway, but before people will want to believe it you'll actually not know why the account is a bit shorter and go back among your food items and see 100's of dollars going out that didn't use to be.

I had a horrible dream the other night.

In it, i was seeking medical treatment but didn't have independant insurance. So I was being lead through "the system"

Once i was set up there was an oriental doctor that said I was schedulre or I hadn't recieved a certain inoculation. It has to do w/colds/flues. I didn't have a chart yet but I had like an introduction package...they called it something non-defensive, like the "living well..."

In the dream I refused, but my husband went ahead and that's pretty much all I remember.

I don't even really know where to post these things anymore, but if you've followed some of the "Visions and Futures" forums or this one, somewhere, you can go back and validate some of the things either I feel or see or others do.

Somewhere I posted "We'll see Mcdonalds and Walmart" in the headlines...but what it is is that the Gov. needs something from them. Specifically I mention Mcdonalds and Walmart.

Tonight my husband played a clip for me and Walmart (understand before I've written it here it's come sometime sooner) is partering with "Homeland Security."

Somewhere else I believe I've read Mcdonalds is helping with some Health food thing...I only remember it because people were complaining that Mcdonald's of all things...ha,ha...ya, right - and I remember syaing na-uh, it's something bigger. Look below the surface.

This isn't about wow ur right. What I feel it's more about is that right now if it's strong enough for someone like me who avoids politics whenever possible to feel it, then there's something there for people over all to pay attention to.

I'm guessing it's to help click into gear what's going on so more and more people are able to be aware and participate one way or the other in their outcomes.

Alright,

This isn't going to be anywhere near being in the newspapers, but it's coming back to me...really, stronger than ever! Like compacted, something, though it was 8-12 months ago when I felt it...well, it's now.

"Mcdonald's/ Walmart."

I drove my husband crazy pacing back and forth for months, but I told him THOSE two companies you're going to see a lot of in the future, in the headlines. At that point we hadn't..I mean yes, here and there, but not all out blown out...OMG - OBESETY, STATAN OF ALL ALL FAST FOODS, etc.

I'm like, "There's something more there. They need these two companies for some reason." If you go back in these posts you'll find them. I just don't know how to organize it all so they are here and there and I wrote them when they hit me whenever.

Anyway, with the gov. criticizing obesity and everyone kind of going , "ya, that's not healthy, they're doing our kids harm" etc. No, it's a bit deeper than that. It feels like a campaign, like getting the people riled up, for right now, while they're planning this other thing behind the comotion.

Why they need, the gov. needs these 2 companies? I don't know. If I was forced to make a guess (and of course we're not suppose to look too deeply) I'd say, these particular companies are heads and because of that are actually OUTSIDE of the government parameters...for right now that is.

What I feel now, and currently going on as I type this, is that if someone cared enough to look into it, these companies are self made, like private citizens created them at some point..Mcdonald's is self-made - inspirational in a way. But, well there's also greed in there too, like there are also idiots in the process that wasted good opportunities away so their particular stores are failing..

So, with an appeal to people to, I don�t know gear them up to dislike them, well that's kind of like, picture a bunch of cheerleaders romping up the mid-sections and sidelines for a rivalry.

The PLAYERS (they are a group)? They are going to purchase ENOUGH,(let me say that again) ENOUGH of the Mcdonald's (private owner's) stores, that once ENOUGH of those stores are purchased, they will have some type of a stake, STAKE to make votes or have a say that Mcdonalds has to act and do certain things a certain way and it's gong to tie into food. Not like duh, but regulations that feed back again into the gov.

Basically they'll be able to hand deliver Mcdonald's as well as Walmart corp to the government.

Walmart seems to end up being a channel and people shop there, not even knowing or caring that it does... wait, its' not channel, corral - like directing the herds.

If you think of it this way, it makes perfect sense. So many Americans shop at Walmart and eat at McDonalds. If the government has influence and ultimately control within these corporations, that control extends to the consumers who shop and eat there.

This has actually been creeping up on us for decades. As the Federal government has expanded, with more and more departments and regulations, we the citizens have lost more and more of our freedoms. And this has been compounded by the actions of the states.

Fishing is a good example. At our previous home there was a private dock on a deepwater creek off the Intracoastal Waterway. If we wanted to fish, we walked to the dock. Can't do that now without a fishing license. My brother-in-law has a house on a lake. His buddies were fishing and he walked out on the dock to chat. He was standing on HIS dock, with NO fishing tackle and he got a ticket for not having a fishing license, even though he wasn't fishing.

This sounds trivial, but it's actually symptomatic. What's more alarming is this level of control extends even further within businesses. As an employer, you can't fire anyone for even the most grievous offense without being penalized through higher unemploymemt taxes. If one took all the regulations for a business, Federal, State, County, and City and typed them in very small letters on a roll of paper, stretched out, it would probably be as long as two city blocks! I am NOT exaggerating! I've had to read through all that mess.

Walmart and McDonalds are two of our country's largest corporations and employers. Neither is unionized yet. It's not surprising these two are targets for take over, by indirect means, by the federal government. Everyone must be in "lock-step" compliance.

I keep seeing both Walmart/McDonalds as corrals?? Like when steer are running through those metal things farmers need them to in order to get them to go and do what they want them to.

Since I posted this, there's something else. You know how a spider web looks with the concentrated center. Well if you look to these companies, I feel you find a gov. type hook smack dab in the center of it, but it's nothing publically spoken about, like in a commercial or anything.

On the outside, you'll hear bad things about them, the furthest ring of the web and the weakest if you think about it, is what "twings" the people.

Anyway, so all the gov. things that are getting the "little" guy riled up to demand this and that, wanting health care, they're too big, they're unfair, unhealthy, etc, whatever they just know is a button they can push with the simple mind - it's/they are more like the audience, again the cheering section.

Somehow someway, these particular companies end up being spared a lot of the fines or penalties with that health care thingy and maybe even somehow being able to off set some of the carbon stuff, they're tromping around about.

Oh, the carbon tax everyone wants to keep "green" about, well I hope they all mean it, because they'll say they're going after the big guys, but What I feel is, you wait and take a look at your electricity bill in a couple of years...it's going to snag you to whether you're carbon free or not...it's like a tax that's just going to be there.

But anyway, these 2 companies I feel have some sort of exemption from a lot of this stuff...reason being, they're an investment, they need what someone else already built.

Interesting enough...

Change is inevitable and part of life - creation, really if you look to how things evolve.

But THIS, this is in DETROIT or near bouts and among the things that are "CHANGING" I urge, very strongly for people to go outside, take a walk, reinvent your definition of love or meaning and decide (for yourself) what your Soul, in your gut, believes in.

It will make all the difference in the world!

Anybody ever play the game "RISK?"

Detroit/Monroe MI

Interesting reading your posts. Both MacDonalds and Walmart are global companies that have basically the same clientel plus they are located in every town. No one needs directions to get there. You mention spider webs could you mean network? If the govt needs to distribute food or supplies these are sites that are established and are set to serve at a moments notice. They already have distribution hubs and skilled workers. In the event of a true emergency if someone said go to Walmart or MacDonalds everyone will find it. I to can not sleep at nightand scour the internet daily to try and find what it is I am missing. You mention one world currency yes that is coming, you mention taking care of your self and your family which explains why most of us feel the sense of urgency to stock up and protect. I do not know what tomorrow will bring but I do feel strongly that we are all being lied to by those in power on a global scale. Here are several impressions I have regarding the economy globally. Greece will default on its loans and the effects will be felt financially world wide. Germany will leave the Euro and that currency will fall along with the US Dollar pulling the rest of the European countries with it. There will be massive runs on all financial institutions and people will revolt. Major delivery systems will stop and each of us will need to provide for our ownselves and families until such time as a new system and currency comes to pass. Our lives will not be the same and our children will have no assets. Families and communites will need to band together to literally survive. There will be famine even in the US and Europe. As hard as I try to not believe this I know it to be true.

Since I can remember, politics made me anxious. I never got into them. Prior to the 2001/911 Urgency overcame and hasn't subsided since. In fact I'd never been afraid to fly, but the Aug. of 2001, I needed a bottle of Valium just to get on the plane to see my folks. I cancelled twice before finally conceding to go. And wouldn't you know on the way back it was 911. That'll teach me to cancel, lol.

See, I don't think you're missing anything. Just the opposite. You're picking up on things people don't want to believe. They're happy blogging or sticking up for a group they feel passionate about instead of seeing/understanding the bigger picture. The gov. needs them to be distracted and cause chaos. It lifts the burden of their having to do it.

I feel every fiber worth of being, that we all are, both, being lied to and distracted at the same time. This gov. is not our friend.

All those little revolts...well, they're no accident. There's what I feel looks like a large blueprint and I see it in my head like something on Power Point and a screen, with circles all around it and lines from those circles going into a central location/point on the screen. I feel these riots are in place, instigated as a process to get people riled up to say, "We've heard the people and need to take measures... take certain powers down."

The Walmart/Mcdonalds thing. I believe the gov. will step in are working their way into both. I feel WM wll be the supplier of foods to...or some how be a branch or subsidiary to provide foods to both people and fast food chains.

I beieve where as people on food stamps had to at least make an effort to cook their food, well now, they will be able to sit around the house all day and walk into say a Wendies, pizza place, Kentucky fried chicken ect and won't pay a dime to load up on that stuff. I feel there are test drives or experiments going on to begin this process.

I feel you're going to start seeing fast food rest or public transit systems that will get you to/near projects, so people will have not only housing but utilities and food free as well. No car? No problem. Get up around 12:00 - 1:00 pm, walk across the parking lot get $12.00 of burgers and go back to bed or play video games.

Basically, whatever "means" the government gifts, goes right back into their pocket. The thing about gifts? You can take them back at anytime you feel the need to and ration it back out.

One world currency I feel is coming as well. They'll say ours no longer works and we need to unify our systems.

And the headlines that say this riot or that is 'inspired by the Arabs...' don't believe it. They're setting you up to think other govs. are inspiring and we should be more like them. The majority of people don't believe that. The youth? They don't know what they believe, they just want to go along with the newest, loudest thrill TO feel like they are part of something.

This stuff will happen but not like what people think. I believe the stock market will crash. The bailouts won't work. And when this happens, like a flip of a switch, everything while we're bickering back and forth has been set in place to take over.

We'll feel the pains of control, yes. Every search you've made, the products you purchase, the meds you need, they'll know all about you just by plugging in a few numbers.

The real pain comes when their system fails to deliver the fantasy people want to believe it will. And all this happened, "While We Were Sleeping..."

Set up protests? Funny you should mention that, I read an article online tonight, BBC News, that George Soros one of the worlds most powerful and wealthy men is sympathedic to the protesters issues. Chill went up my spine. This man creates and pays for his own charitable organizations and think tanks to push his one world and one currency agenda. I can even think about what he is up to except to know it will not be a good thing. I have no feelings about Walmart or MacDonalds, however what yu have stated makes sense. Tell me what your impression is of this person, Marco Rubio. Don't look him up just tell me what vibrations you get. By the way have you thought about holding onto old silver coins? Perhaps we can discuss this another time.

I've never heard of this Marco person.

I usually use a photo or a sound clip of their voice. I won't look him up unless you want me to just for the photo.

I just need a connection and then all sorts of stuff usually comes through unless the person isn't a real person. Like sometimes people will test me with a fake name and I'll just say, "I don't get anything."

Ya the WM/MC thing has been coming through for sometime. I don't know if it's Union or not...that could be, but they absolutely stand out. I'l go as far to say that independant Mcdonalds are being or I feel they are being bought out with Gov. money from union directives or incentives...like there's people who are getting gov. money who lean toward big gov. standards????

It's legitimate. Anyone can qualify for a loan, but you have to "QUALIFY" for that loan...see?

Mcdonalds was a self-starter. What I feel is the Gov has an interest in it, as well as WM.

I missed that last part about Silver Coins...

Yes, I have thought about it. I'm in favor of it and collect them myself. But I'm also way into the future where cash is but a stipen or magnetic strip, no credit.

So, somewhere in between, they should have some great value. Timing...that's all.

Please look him I I need confirmation here. He is now a US State Senator. India has joined with a US company and developed a software to idenitfy people by the iris in the eye. They have already captured millions in thier database. They claim it is to track the poor to make sure they get the services they need. Anyway coins are a good idea for the times ahead. I just don't get a vibe on Walmart of McDonalds. You will have to keep me in the loop here. However when I was in Costa Rica recently I went into a Mc Cafe which has a traditional Mc Donalds and a Mc Cafe adjoining. The cafe is set up with teas and coffees and different pasteries. It is set up like an internet cafe, free wireless and filled with business people in suits. Actually was very nice and even relaxing.

Duh sorry he was a Fl State Sentaor now is a US Senator. Please look him up andI am not testing you.

O.k. I found a family photo. Haven't looked any further.

There's a few ways I approach stuff like this. So pretend there's a doughnut and I'm in the center. What a person asks tells me the general direction I need to focus for information, like sails on a ship.

So say the mario person was asking me about him and what he needs to be focusing on to do this or that, etc. that's one direction. If someone outside of mario/ sorry Rubio have no idea why I called him mario, but anyway, say someone outside of this person wants to know his personality, his drive, etc. I am usually pretty good at getting those personal detail.

OK thanks

Gosh this wasn't as bad as I thought.

Usually people want all sorts of tid-bits. I tend to get anxious when I have to focus on politicians. None of them are perfect, but when you "see" inside, some are more for the people than others.

In general what comes through for this person?

Rather undeveloped at this time, topical. As a politician you would hope for a more altruistic individual. Evenif this person has big ideas, I don't feel an altruistic outlook. It feels more about how he sees himself. His position, his accomplishments...how much he can achieve, win, etc.

Out ward appearances feel very important to this person. With anything in the public eye, you have that but this feels more like an immature outlook - like American Idol type of energy. Loves the attention. It feels he has no problem telling someone how he likes them to wear their hair for instance, what type of clothing he feels would be appropriate, etc.

I also feel he's got a Jennifer Aniston fettish, but lol, many people do.

All in all, not someone I would put the American people in the hands of - too immature for the time. Maybe in 10 - 15 yrs. though.

On a larger scale the gov. we have now and for some time now has been gradually making a system. A lot like you see in other countries where everything down to the TP you buy, how much, medications, etc. is controlled by them - there's what feels like a skeletal system in place for when our economy tanks.

If you look, especially in fine prints of contracts and those service agreements, people scroll through and just check the box that they�ve read, you'll see evidence, like check into the ATM welfare card bank, look into the fine print on a gift card, bank. Banks and establishments you're going to see over and over and usually have somehow/someway to do with GE is in there. Like GE bank or Mellon bank, but they feel connected to each other.

Whether you're rep or dem, it doesn't really matter anymore. I feel a system that looks to me like a subway system. Whoever gets into office isn�t likely to dismantle it. Maybe slow it down?

With Obama, people have seen pretty much all there is to see. What you see is what you get. It's not going to change, put him in there another 4 years.

I do feel, whomever is in charge of putting people up there for candidacy (sp) are covering their bases.

So say the people that were disappointed w/Obama but don�t want to be called a racist, well they want another African American up there. They have others that feel to me to be called rep, but really they're more in sync with a NY/Hollywood type of corruptions and liberalism that isn�t well thought out. That�s something you don�t want as well.

Hopefully people have had their fill of the racist this and racist that, demonstrations popping up in that �timely� fashion and will be able to actually look past this type of campaigning in the name of freedom and will actually be able to take a look around, with eye wide open and make a decision that is best for them and their fellow man.

When do you know something is wrong with your government?

You know it when your pressured into having respect for Tyrany, Communism, Dictatorship and finally Socialism.

There's something wrong with critical elements we're no longer willing to address in lieu of keeping a head down, making little waves in fear of "doing" something that may put you in disfavor of your current government.

When was the last time you felt that?

If it's been recently, it's time to attend to those critical elements.

Maybe there's a part of you that feels wrong, feels guilty, uncertain, for whatever reason...

But what if you were right all along?

Rubio bothers me greatly. He is being groomed for a presidental run. I know it doesn't make sense but i see him running this time. Not sure if he is the power or the person to bring another to power that can do great harm to our country but it is coming through him. Looks like my previous observations for Germany and Greece are coming to light. Have any feeling about the 7th or 9th of November? Keep feeling a great sadness. Hope all is well with you.

Looking to the Rubio name, I really don't get much as far as power goes.

By that I mean, if he is being groomed for presidency...I'm not getting influence to a public, like momentum behind him.

The person that can do great/er harm, is already here.

There's a book...I'm not sure why at this time I mention it, but it's called "The Wheel of Time."

Germany and Greece are already here and in the process. They've come and gone - i's just a matter of making it public record.

What I feel is that one of these has happened more than once and if the public can allow that to happen, pretty much, we all just need to buckle up and find a way to apply some breaks.

The sense I get is that the European Union is a house of cards, an illusion of normalcy, whereas the reality is far, far from OK.

You're right Anna...

I feel it's to a point where, it's just a process that is going to have to follow through. It feels like trying to stop a boulder, running down a cliff 3/4 of the way down.

You can throw stuff in it's way...slow it down, but a "web" is born in moments of societal weakness.

Leaders have lived selfishly and all the while pitting humankind against human kind.

In the haze of haste and hate, we forgot to turn to each other, regardless of geographical location.

Yes you are right he or she is here. Somehow it is connected. I dont think the public knows that the world situation is only a few have that knowledge and are prepared. The Canarys, feel a buzz that just wont stop. We are not witnessing a new island being formed. I know this sounds distasteful but it feels more like a really bad and infected pimple growing at the bottom and moving outward, then pulsating energy all around and down. Not very scientific I know LOL. I need to look up that book up. Perhaps one night this week thanks for the mention.

I have been very concerned of late about the downward plunge our world (and the Planet in its agony)has been taking. I 'feel' like we are sitting on a slippery-slide, which seems set to cast us all down the slippery slope to I hate to think where!

Governments cannot be trusted, we are being lied to, our pleas are falling on deaf ears, greed is God, and even during two world wars I have not seen the 'all over' corruption and 'boot licking' that I am seeing now. Even the Law is lawless and unjust. (corrupt there too?)

I am a proud Australian, but lately I feel ASHAMED!

I can't help recalling the old prophesies, not only from the Bible, but from other sources too, and really do feel that we are at a crisis point. Either we turn now - or .......

sorry to sound so negative, but there are 'vibes' in our world today that frankly frighten me. They are NOT of the Light!

Oh gosh, the Book!

I forgot - There's 2 or two came through recently here, but there's a few others.

I haven't read either, they're sci-fi. Long story, but I have a hard time reading.

Anyway, one is "The Wheel of Time" the other is "Death Gates Cycle" (I think). There's meaning somewhere or they wouldn't keep coming up.

Atlas Shrug (1957). Didn't read that one either, but I listened to it on audio book. That's about right too, and "Dead Zone" (the original) with Christopher Walken...the election part.

I agree: Mother Earth is in agony Onealone & Elleise.

And the Universe keeps a perfect set of books, so that eventually balance will be restored.

1 + 1 = 2. Modern math and creative accounting will be unable to do anything about it either!

The Dead Zone was a great movie, very thought provoking.

Peace.

Do any of you have feelings about the Nostradamus predictions regarding these present times? They are pretty frightening! Also the Mayan calendar - pinpointing 2012?

Honestly what comes to mind is a "Big Bang" -- the ending being the same as the beginning was. When? Who knows.

However, should the mindset and vibrations of the human race improve, there may be a reprieve. The Tibetan monks are hard at work trying to improve the vibes and they could use all the help they can get.

As far as the 2012 predictions, I plan on having a party on Friday, December 21 2012 with my family and friends. If it came to it on this day, well, heck, what a wonderful way it would be to go onto the next phase -- together, laughing, and having a beverage or two.

The message is: FEAR NOT! The soul is immortal and so much more than these temporary vehicles we inhabit. With every ending comes a new beginning.

Peace.

You are all correct! As I see it anyway. Googlge the hopi elders on you tube. They are very interesting and they do not point to the end of times in 2012 but a time of great change and a time people will know that they are all connected. In the last year I have had real conversations with people who would never speak of these things before. Connection yes, change yes. No one knows what that entails but Elliese is also on the right path when she says we are being lied to by our elected leaders. Our financial system is based on printed paper that we all just assume is worth something. The day is fast approaching that that printed paper will mean nothing. Love faith, whatever you believe and providing for those you love are all that is important. Keep storing basics including water and enjoy a beautiful day when you can who knows what tomorrow will hold.

At least one Mayan Elder has been speaking publicly on the 2012 issues. A few of these are on YouTube.

Basically, it's a time of change. We don't know what the changes will be, and this causes fear. According to the Mayan record each cycle's end has seen major earth changes. These cycles are a little over 5,000 years.

With instant communication and knowledge sharing, unique to this cycle, it's easy to become overwhelmed with the similarities in so many prophecies. This Mayan Elder advises us not to be afraid, as changes are a part of life, ours and the earth's.

For me, this means to pay attention and prepare as our Ancestors did. We don't know the earth changes at the end of previous cycles were instantaneous, but we do know that humanity was not wiped out.

I agree so much with that Jane!

Earth changes don't - DO NOT, wipe out all of humanity. I suppose if your planet explodes, that's an entirely different scenario.

Geographical changes, well, if you're living on a living planet, you could say, expect changes, like living with someone or having family.

Now, I'm going out on a limb here saying, Mayans, Elders, Shamans, Native American tribes, people in general who pay attention to their surroundings and understand human energy, politics and such, there are cycles that follow when changes disrupt people and the every day.

Personally, this is a bit into the future, I feel we end up going back to the Native American way, however a bit more time needs to pass until this other cycle completes. I do feel we are gradually learning or RE-learning, Earth Ways, some more than others, but ther's definately a struggle.

You either hear people playing it down, as in..."Oh it's the end of the world right...? Ar-ar..." Or, you have some people thinking it is, but it's not. It's something in the middle.

As living species, we survive, there's an instinct there. Humanity will survive this. Some as you mention will be more prepared than others.

As for the changes that aren't quite to geographical, more gov't...all you have to do is look at the riots and the people instigating and supporting them.

Normal riots, have a clear statement and there's a sigh of relief when ther's positive change.

What you're hearing with riots these days are more reflective of anyone that happens to feel frustrated, angry, bored, not having to go to sleep and get up to go to work, etc.

Most have no idea why they're doing what their doing. Small groups, like pop-tarts are simply riling people up, chaos.

So, CHAOS, mixed with geographical shifts...well there are people taking natural disasters or taking advantage of them, and mingling them in with a desired outcome.

Corruption, sure, it's been around for centuries, but not on a united and global level in the name of greed.

More than a few of my friends have opened up about a sense of edginess or urgency over the past few years. I think many can actually "feel" the changes which will come, but don't realize what they are feeling. Not knowing why or what they are feeling can intensify and present as restlessness and moodiness.

Could this be contributing to the overall unrest and riots?

This is a heavier topic for me. My entire biology changes when I go to it, so I'm not here unless it's urgent.

I just received this link in an email...

See-ers like myself, others who may or may not want to remain neutral or unseen have tried, to the point of giving all they have to raise awareness.

The closer a person is to the truth, the greater the quest to silence them can be seen.

We've warned about something coming, one world currency, gov. control inching into the lives of FREE SPEACH, CHAOS, INFILTRATIONS TO THE SCHOOLS (teaching our children).

It's not coming and I appologize for using that word over the past few months.

IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!!!

BLACKOUT

Someone once said to me, "Thank goodness Elleise, we don't live in a country where we have to worry about free-speach."

Really?

Websites, talk radio & TV, school books (through some type of revision wire..digital....ebook format, etc. something like that. I don't quite have the right word it's a feeling) will be audited.

If it isn't mainstream/isn't approved or pleasing to groups, political and otherwise, I feel you'll begin feeling yourself walking on shaky ground, having to defend yourself, protect yourself or fearful you yourself may come under scrutiny by saying something, hosting something or teaching something other than what mass media selects as being "the truth."

I feel strongly that "truth" which mass media will be selective of, too will be owned by your government and there will be a compelling to distance yourself from people that say otherwise.

i m sad to see this just as i got really sad about the implants.luckily i don t believe in anything of the outside.i believe that people have been cut off from the inner so they live outside of themselves in the material.imnot against the material butit is just not the way it should be used.
protest won t create anything and in the end those who protested will go along.protest is anti life and a frozen thing.
it s the people who make this world happen and make it come true,each everyone,loss of individuality has been done on purpose.

Google is doing the same thing:

Google

I used to be sad. Then went into denial (wishful denial. Then I just started writing about the feelings I was getting on a subject I detest. Politics.

Little by little feelings began showing up in headlines.

The sad part is how easy it is for people to follow blindly and turn on each other. I keep seeing the same thing in my head:

"There's a comical nutcracker-type band leader, like a puppet twirling this batton with a big furry tall hat facing the people marching backward. The people are all mesmerized and at the very last minute, the band-master steps aside and all of the people fall into a net at the bottom of a pit with the bandmaster smiling, looking down at them."

It's not completely sad yet. We don't have a Tiananmen Square. You might have people pretending to be just like Tiananment, but it isn't real.

Gov wants control. Well, as long as you're rallying in favor of more control, those riots will be encouraged. Tiananmen square, my understanding of it anyway, was about freedom of speach, not censorship.

i saw the "backward" thing many times,and spent a lot of time studying all this.ifreaked out many times in my life cause i didn t understand why everything was going backwards down here,and i v always thought about songs played backwards that reveal a message that people follow blindly.obviouslyyou could make the earth go backwards another time tosee the true face of the planet.there this thing that most people born on this planet are entering from the south pole when it should be from the north.all energy here is backwards and the consequences of this are huge cause it creates blockages and itkeeps people trapped in the lower realms.funnily that picture of idont remember who that hellis overcrowded isn t that bad a thought.
the principle vision i had of all this and i had it only once was a puppeteer with his strings attached to the planet.
i hate politics too and i m not interested in them but i just see
the energy it uses and it directs,buti find it painful to look at.

also i d like to add something,i met a kind of witch once,and somehow she knew what i was about.i don t like the term lightworker because it is opposable,but she was like a dark worker she knew what was going on here and there are lots of people like that here that work for what is called the government because they come from the same place and have the same agenda the only thing is that they work in the same way lightworkers do.lots of peple keepon being blocked here in this realm and can t advance soulwise,all this because someone is a soul collector and needs bodies to keep it going.

I missed this post, but yes, Puppeteer

And you're right, there are groups of people, I'd go as far as saying mass groups following, either because they don't want to know or have been given a sense of purpose TO follow.

"Heart-strings" are being tugged. So, if you're young and feel powerless, you're given importance, the role of being "The only answer" to the future.

I'm Cherokee for example, so I may be promised money for my people to right a past wrong...it's that temptation that may keep me silent, blinded or obligated, gifting my independence and follow without question.

I've had people tell me they feel powerless to do anything. That they're just too tired, broke or don't want trouble...just get through it. However, it's not designed to get through. IT has a more permanent agenda, like that piece of gum you can't get off your shoe...

What comes to mind when people are feeling this way is:

As much as we'll stand up and demand to remove secret ingredients in "mystery meat," pick on the Chicken Mcnugget, as much as we'll protest and fight for RX prescriptives to include all side-effects of taking in a certain medication, etc., if we were to see the list of side-effects of accepting blindly Hollywood champaigns and the instant gratifications of temporary reliefs and promises, the after-effects are much worse than anything that could possibly be imagined.

For the time being, we have the ability to decide for ourselves what we do and don't want to take in...that in itself stands a very good chance of being a luxury of the past and something you might not even notice until we no longer have it. How bout an opinion that stands for what we personally believe, but one that will only be able to be expressed freely, out-loud as a collective, which will really boil down to the opinion of just a few telling you and allowing what you see on TV, what your beliefs will be..

What's that old song??? Grrrrr...oh - got it:

Chicago

Do you remember?

If not...remember this

((hugs))

Like A Hawk

I always watch the planet Saturn, for that is our teaching planet. To day July 1 2012 it is affecting the planet Neptune the planet of illusion. I feel that our teacher is awakening us to the election process, as it is being planned by the people in power at this time, to blow up like a balloon filled with too much hot air, leaving the people in power helpless. The election will put a sane and responsible person in the White House and our country will return to sanity and our economy will rebound to heights, last seen after World War 11.This cycle of government is ending, we are going through the death throe's now. Look forward to a bountiful USA in 2013.

I have some reading difficulties, but I'll never give just an "off the cuff" response or say something just to conform. As human beings, I feel really we deserve more than that, "Truth-Eyes." (my signature phrase)...

BTW, I sincerely feel a true Clairvoyants really should try to embrace that responsibility. It can be a difficult challenge, but it sharpens the view!

It's really cool to hear from other Intuitives!

Lately, it's been a bit fun actually. Before it was like "head-in-hand" going really don't want to know.

None the less, feelings and projections (solid ones) I test them out physically..friendships, internet services, etc. you need affirmations.

I don't really do much w/Astrology, though I do have a scope -Astronomy-wise, to view stars and planets.

Elections, though...before I knew what the person, Obama was or is - I just saw a picture and felt/knew a feeling I'd felt once before. I felt Obama would win, but we'd see Romney again.

This time...I'm mixed. Not opinion-wise, simply "feelings" not a fan of politics. But, this time around it feels even more of a personal election:

Many people who voted for Obama did it from the very best part of themselves. They had hope and weren't prejudiced and wanted to represent themselves via, a vote.

This time, it feels, people who never voted, will vote - and I mean up until the very last minute. It's not going to be - "Oh I don't have a ride." More, if I have to, I'll start the day before just to get there.

People who never wanted to "get involved" they've been resisting, just beautifully wanting to live a peaceful quiet life. But, they'll have night-sweats not knowing exactly why, hoping it'll pass. Those people come to realize just how significant they really are.

See, if there's one 0z. inside that's fearful of what you say, how you act, which way you stand or vote - etc...

You've just experienced precisely the feelings and reasoning behind the determination of human beings who risk everything, even their own lives, to escape a controlling life-style just for a shot at making their way here for a chance of freedom.

They don't know it yet, but they're being drafted to oppose the very thing they come here in pursuit of.

Let Inuition and Wisdom guide our human frailties ~

This is an interesting clip. Particularily this thread, there hasn't been a great deal of physical experience, just feelings.

I remember sensing and writing, "bits and pieces of our country" - it felt like a puzzle broken up with chunks of it being sold off. You'd have to go back to the orignating whatever you call it...it's there (just go to page 1 and read forward).

Anyway this clip found me and one of the things that caught my attention was, "America should be 'downsized' (?)" It's a statement in the clip.

The reason it's interesting is that it coorelates w/, at least in part, the feelings, which at the time, wasn't able to affirm. I couldn't research it or it would taint my raw intuitives...

This is really close though...feeling-wise. There's more, but it has to do w/control - like little things people used to be able to do, now it feels in place you'll have a more difficult time of it - like I.D.'s, going to a casino (but trying to cash out. The winnings somehow will be confiscated for prior whatever??? Don't have the right wording yet.), purchases, even down to (and this part is wierd) just go w/me,....but SALT?

The salt thingy...I don't mean the hippy, green movement, "everyone be happy, always positive and healthy", etc. Whatever - you're a full grown adult. Stuff yourselves with it if you want and if you don't, don't. Personally, I plan to be hooked up to a liquidated saline solution of the darn thing when I'm too old to digest it orally - with a couple of Coronas on the side. It's in my will!

Anyway, here's the clip. I don't know if it covers farmlands, but that's another feeling that's been coming through. Like almost encouraging youth for a movement to try to take farmlands - maybe for "a higher purpose."

Documentary 2016

GRAB A GLASS OF WINE>>>heck make it the whole bottle, lol or whatever it is you fashion. Take in what resonates and leave what doesn't or feels TOO overwhelming behind for another day...messages are to help, not paralyze w/fear

It's been awhile, it feels anyway since I posted regarding Gov.,Economy/Environment, etc. and there's always a reason for what I do, lol .

I feel the people know as much (there's more to come of course) but as much as they need to, to "get it." For a "Seer" It's exhausting going in (peek-a-booing) to something so complex. Multiply a relationship reading by about a trillion, because WE THE PEOPLE are ONE BIG RELATIONSHIP...like it or not, we're a family of sorts.

Anyway, many of the things I felt were prior to the previous election. One of the less worrisome, for me anyway, was gas topping over $5.00. This headline caught my attention as I was answereing emails this afternoon:

Gas Heist

I feel Obama has a heads up he's not doing well or at least behind closed doors that information is being presented. At this time, even before now actually but those things are water under the bridge. There were warnings....some listened, unfortunately many didn't.

I feel in addition to what we've already been seeing that are questionable dealings, yet more, but the feeling is like when someone as they've made the good gesture of already paying for a piece of merchandise, grab yet another deal, discreetly as they transport to wherever it is they're going next.

On a different topic, way back when, when many "seers" were "feeling things" about food...growing your own, stocking up etc....

Some of the messages were misunderstood as saying 'the world was coming to an end.' That wasn't the message (s).

Messages are never meant to frighten. And if you happen to have a reader who does play on fears, my advice is to shop around.

The MESSAGE (s) was to help, prepare people to ride out storms heading our way.

My 3 main concerns at this time are FOOD, MONEY & MILITARY.

MILITARY: there's too much to go into detail, but I will say this, I feel 99.9% on this. Something I rarely do, that our radar has or is being "messed" with and even currently being tested on random vehicles above and below surface levels.

It feels like an undetectable app. of some sort. All I could see was a bunch of circles, on a green screen, but there's a "V"...It runs N/S starting at the W side of the circle and ends at the E. It's a reflector, though, of some type. In short the purpose of this app is misdirecting, mirroring (haven't right word) having things run into each other or detecting a precision of another vessel that isn't there or is, but you can't see it...on the radar. This ties into somehow like railroad tracks and automated switching, if there is that of tracks....?????

FOOD: shortage and bio are the words that keep coming to me, tainted, that along with prices. We haven't seen the half of it, literally! We'll see more and more diseases, kind of related to salmonella (sp) but on normal everyday food you'd pick up. Newer types of insects come into this as well, destructions of crops for whatever reason...like intentional...like it's cheaper just to destroy the crop...it's an ugly feeling.

""IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY PLEASE START GROWING YOUR OWN (as much of it as you can anyway)!" Baby steps, like try to grow basil if it's overwhelming and even get together with your neighbor and swap veggies and fruits, etc. baked goods, like breads too could work as a nice trade-off.

MONEY: This one's weird! O.K. say you have a bank, you "think " all of your services are all there at that local building. I feel they branch off, digital servicing going in all directions. So, say you call your bank and get one answer...go out and find, just, so the complete opposite! So basically you'll be standing there w/debit/credit card in hand and decline or won't process will be what happens.

Have cash on hand, just in case is my advice...!!

The other thing about $: This is even weirder because I don't know much about apps and such, if anything, but this is what it "feels" like.

There's an app, call it a virus, but it's not, not really, but you'll see a debit, you won't recognize. You'll question your kids or wife/husband, it'll be smaller, like $1 - $39.00. You just won't recognize the name it's under.

It disappears...the name, the whole line...it's like it's not or wasn't even there, but the funds will still be missing so when you go to investigate, they'll have a hard time finding what it is you're talking about.

My advice....If you see something questionable, print that page off. If your balance seems off but nothing seems amiss, for the heck of it try reading your statement from another view, such as "History."

Now I'll bet you can gather why there are really some issues I'd rather not "peek-a-boo" if you will

Hi Elleise! I agree that there will be a lot more weirdness going on in the financial sector when it comes to hacking and illegal activities that will affect ordinary consumers. In fact, I did have a problem with some odd debits (six different $1 debits) so your vision is already coming to pass!

Food will be a problem for many. Food safety in particular. I see foreign terrorists getting extremely ingenious with how they will attempt to affect us. Biological warfare in particular. They are considering tainting our water supplies, working hard on developing ways to get certain viruses airborne and using humans and animals to spread disease and, as you said, destroy the food supply.

The delay is that they are intelligent enough to know the possible ramifications for their own people should they upset the earth balance.

By the way, are you calling the US presidential election?

OMG - I just lost a huge message I wrote!!!! I think it is time for bed. :-(

Lori....

I just had a huge flash while was reading your post.

Those $1.00 debits.

Do you know what "Christie' Auction House" is...?

This has nothing to do with the actual action house. But the feeling / the flash - those $1.00 marks are basically a business. It's runs your information to validate from a sourse from somewhere that your information debit/credit is still valid, uncancelled, etc.

Once a small "unnoticeable debit does in fact go through. It's then sold, basically to yet another higher bidder, so imagine a broker bidding for a list of private addresses, say of a country club or such. The information is sold in bulk, some person validates it and then proceeds to sell it.

Something else that comes through are names that are misleading, such as "british red cross" I'm not saying that's an actual name,but it will sound and look almost as if it were a charitable title or s simple as an unquestionable fee of some type..

Calling the election????

Well, Obama is done...It's one thing to have a poor president, it's another to have an adversary acting on pretense to serve your country. That's why people leave dictatorships to come here.

Called the election last year. This year... the only way this guy even makes it past the starting line, is if they actually take the effort to bring the "flippin" starting line to him. Stranger things have happened. If it's an all out honest election...Obama 's out.

What's valuable here is that not only DO the people know, but have learned, as human beings we are much stronger and better together, than leaving it to one person or group of people to set us apart!

The people know.

I should have added to the above post:

In regards to the feelings of just "everyday foods" you'll pick up at the market, tainted/Salmonella, etc., among other types of bacteria, this is one of the areas that will affect or branch off, rather into others.

Winter's comin' up, so what better way or time to experiment with an indoor greenhouse or growing-light?

Tainted Foods

Baby foods, pet foods, flours, breads, and OTC medication is an entirely different subject...along with herbs. As of now, learn to do as much as you can, ON YOUR OWN!!!

And just in case...again...this isn't an "End-of-the-world" type thing, just a head's up

There's still WAY too much money for any country to want an "End-of-the World" type deal. Fictional "$" or non-fictional "$." It's more about control...kind of like that one game...what's it called?

"RISK?" (They're still gathering and grouping...like a bunch of squirrels with their nuts). Protective of them with only a few knowing their whereabouts

The other thing I wanted to mention is once upon a time there really were political parties "Dem/Rep."

I feel strongly we're or maybe already have moved away from that.

In regards to voting, especially this time around, it's going to be more instinctual....so say you've very little, like myself, lol. I feel there are a lot of good projects out there to help.

However, INSTINCTUALLY, I feel strongly about 80% of them are either MIS-USED or a front, though the people working within these programs trying to help may or may not be aware they are.

Polls are another issue that came to me. I don't watch them. I don't re-cap debates or look them up on youtube, unless a newsline finds me. It'll interfere w/what I get. My feelings are, at this point, the "POLLS" are NOT reporting factual relevance/truth.

It feels like, the media is supposed to keep the polls pretty much as close as they can to "50/50" as possible...basically for MORAL-SUPPORT???? They need people talking amongst themselves...NOT feel defeated.

People have asked whether I'm rep or Dem...

ANSWER: Neither.

What I feel the most strongly of, is WE have forgotten just how powerful WE UNITED are and can be! It really isn't the PEOPLE at war. It's really their leaders, who then as they are elected, become [i]YOUR[/i] voice and YOUR power.

Why hand that over to someone else? What would the purpose of your being here in the first place be if your individuality is gifted elsewhere?

Lastly, does anyone remember the FABLE: "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?"

The "Race factor dies" meaning...the saying "You're racist, etc., for (fill-in-the-blank)..." POOF...out the window it's going. You'll have to hoof it on your own coming up here, and I'm feeling "real soon.".

My husband asked if I wanted to watch the debate this evening. I'm like of what? He said, the Vice pres.

I'm like you're actually asking me that with a straight face? It's bit like wanting to watch "Cookie & Bozo" have at it seeing who can through the bean-bag the farthest!!!!!

LOL, Elleise! You are so funny!

I did some cursory "research" to see who was predicting who would win, and the general consensus is that Romney will win. This shocks me, actually, but a lot of psychic sources say that this will be a close race but Romney will pull through.

I'm neither for or against either candidate, by the way.

But John Edward said that he "predicted" Obama was not going to win and even went so far as to tell a friend or brother that he would "eat his shoe" if Obama won. So now, this guy holds up a Converse sneaker every time John comes to visit. LOL.

Well, lol, if he ends up "eating" that shoe...I recommend Frank's Hot Sauce.

All I remember is from 4-yrs ago and said something like "romney won't win but we'll see him again..."

So far, that's happening. I don't see Obama winning this and that's w/out research or polls, but for the "feeling" of the "polls" having to make it look like a close call.

The closeness, I feel the other "Clairs" are picking up on are the recipients of public programs and the fear, should a (R) get in, their "free-beez" go away.

All I can say, is what I feel is, these days anyway, a dem isn't entirely dem, nore rep, entirely rep and humans have compassion.

BUT, with effort and a little discipline, you'd be suprised what a country that has Faith and works together can do as a whole, together

I've been checking in and out w/the election...("feeling-wise").

Still retain - IF it's a fair election, (individuals are taking things into their own hands...I feel that strongly)Obama's done. Actually, he's done either way, even if the election is altered in some fashion.

Ears are turning away!!!

With the last election, I FELT something like, well nothing I've felt but for where you're sitting up right in a cold sweat from a dream and your head between your knees!

My parents? Never had a side. Me, I'm not a fan of either. I remember names though...who my parents liked: Reagan, Carter & Clinton.

Obama will get youth votes, though!

Some votes dealing w/immigration or just the hopefuls or those that feel, "well, he's been in there for 4 yrs. why change?" or those that want to believe, etc.

But for the most part - I get nothing. Media, victims, desperate individuals, even Hollywood, etc..those will be in there, etc.

What I DO FEEL, however, is even if he gets in, by whatever means...it only strenghtens the people's empowerment, intelligence and realizing the "City" it takes to raise a village is them!"

Sometimes, it happens, that we go a long distance out of our way to find what we should have found for ourselves initially.

What also comes though outside of the election is a good feeling by way of what people call "Prophets...or forewarners."

Somehow they become elevated, small but pwerful, in the sense of not just being seen as "Nay-sayers" but simply information that becomes something being taken into account

My comment about John Edward's eating a shoe was in regards to Obama's first election. I don't recall him calling this election.

I went back to check on the list of psychic predictions and see that while many predicted a Romney win, there were lots of others who called it for Obama. Interestingly, when you check their astrological charts, Obama has the supporting chart while Romney's chart indicates that he does not share a lot of the same chart indicators that US presidents share.

In any case, I know that you were feeling the vibrations of the people and were correct to say that a lot of former Obama supporters were disenchanted with him. He did lose a lot of votes. The election should not have been this close for him as Romney is seen as far too out-of-touch with the majority of US citizens.

Even the astrological charts can be overridden with enough vibrational intention. In the end, however, the Romney camp was not unified in love for him. There were those who voted Rep., even though they still disliked or feared Romney as president (Mormonism, etc.), because they hated Obama. Those who voted Obama truly believe in and love him and dislike--but do not hate or fear--Romney.

Belief and love beat fear and hate every time.

But there are indicators that Obama must be on guard for possible assassination attempts between now and soon after his inauguration.

O.K...boy do we have some ground to cover

The "Seers" were (in "time" as we/they with their ability to convey, understand it, etc., past, present and well the future has yet to be) are/were correct, "feeling-wise" as to the channel they were picking up.

Remember, eyes/ears, "Seers," in general, good ones, don't rely upon those.

Right now, lol, what's going on in my head is a bit like "New Year's Eve" - THE loudest stroke of midnight you can imagine, but it's also happy.

I'll try to cover..TRY to cover... what's coming through over the next few days, with respect to what, now, WILL be relevant for present/immediate terms, etc.

For starters: For those disheartened by the results, not to worry. Not yet...there's something on the horizon.

I can't quite put it into words as to why, but something has changed. It's not like when this guy was first elected 4 yrs. ago...it'll come though.

Plus, "feeling-wise" I'm in way too good of mood. Something has lifted and those I can never fake. My emotions are always right there in front

There's almost a momentum of Grace of some type, rising... and I think I know what it is, but I want to wait...double check it.

There is a lingo "Seers" understand.

So, the "channel" they felt, is right on! That I'm sure of. They're picking up what's True! Obama...his energy, well it's flat...it wasn't flat 4 yrs. ago.

For now, simplistically, to understand half of what is happening, you (figurative) have to see politics, more as a business, NOT "Mary Poppins-like."

Within businesses, there are Positive businesses and negative/dark businesses.

If you're ( figurative) still in the mode of fairy-tale endings, however, you won't be apt to find a great deal of relevence. Here, at least.

Fairy tales are good for simple minded realities, and endings that though feel good and pleasant to bleieve and listen to, for the most part aren't quite the entire picture.

That's where the Truth comes in

I see when you quoted me in the post above that I did mention how I was *shocked* that some people predicted a Romney win. I felt that the people wouldn't be able to get over his religious affiliation. You know how staunchly minded (and anti-Mormon) the religious right can be. It sort of split the Rep. vote even though he had the backing of Billy Graham urging Christians to accept him.

This one's long, but the next one, not as much and will be more specific. Right now just remember salt - as in the staple. It will come in handy. Get some. That's for later though.

BTW, having other Sensitives, (which is such a blessing) it really is, to consult, bounce feelings or what's that word (ah, interpretations!) really is something I, as well as others, appreciate...so much. Truth-eyes!

Investigating, I've always liked the number "5." So, say a group of "5" sensitives (genuine sensitives) with whatever their specialty area is, put together, like doctors diagnosing a patient.

Someday it'll actually be "norm" to develop this area of the brain.

Listening, reading your words, you hit something. Now I understand.

This is hard to write, for me anyway: but I've been "double-timing" feelings, inqiring, with, well....actual sources - people who are much smarter than me, that deal w/more facts. I just go by raw sensing, no political or religious affiliation, whatsoever. So far so good, depending on how you look at it, lol. (Gotta keep that sense of humor).

Sadly, what's in office, matters very little.

Where I was using or mis-using the word "dictatorship," what is more accurate is a small group of people running the show. A dictatorship would be just 1 individual. The funneling is accurate, terminology, not so much.

It isn't going to be these people or just 1, that remedies things, which are going to get worse before they finally get better. But the light is finaly gaining that momentum, I was talking about.

Networking and "The People" collectively working together, courage is in there, as well as Voicing, not rioting, but embracing the Power of the soul, but together!

What the "Seers picked up on" was/IS the real current!!

Say we had holograms. It's the difference between the real person and what would look (3-D) like a real person.

One of the VERY first things, I need or "feel" the need to stress is this isn't pleasant to feel, the suffering part of the people. But, the righteous is gaining momentum.

Soon everything and I mean everything will run through the Gov. However, the system will become overloaded.

I see here immediately, prices almost tripling (steadily) especially w/food and also, ingredients begin to change. You'll want to begin, actually knowing an ingredient and what it does. You'll (figurative) be suprised where they end up or don't for that matter, thinking it's there and will want to have an idea of what it is you can substitute. This is more in the "Health" dept.

That's where true human-ness, compassion comes into it. Race, gender...you won't care, differences will be set aside, due to need, hunger, shelter, etc. but more importantly, like the fable "The 3 Little Pigs" know-how will be paramount and those that didn't dawdle, like the first 2 lazy, frolicking pigs who in the end failed miserably, don't.

The first 2 little pigs, they'll think they've got it all figured out...so not what happens!

I'm shown a fork or "Y" in the road.

Somewhere (I'll resurrect the thread) but the NYC lines, dumpster-diving, etc.... when we were talking about "preparation..."

That's what I and many others felt/saw. NOT the end-of-the-world.

Genuine "Seers" desire nothing more than to help or alleviate mankind's pain. And what makes now so much different than just hard times in the past is that things start happening all at once and resources become managed in a way that has an outcome. Not for or by the people, but simply something else.

I have to ske-daddle here pretty quickly (did I just say ske-daddle?). Ouch..., lol.

Hubby knawing on me to get going here. We have to get going, so off the comp

Anywho - tonight I'll post what I've gotten. And I have to come out and say this straight up...

Before where I wasn't researching, I am currently actually getting to the bottom of a few things. Some will be about the election, the rest is well, just help in what to pre-pare for.

I'll tell the people who do find this thread interesting, this time around I'm getting actual physical essentials. Before, I just came out w/this stuff from my own corner of the Universe.

I'm serious about the salt though.

I don't know how to keep it longevity-wise, but just if you're out and about, get some, even if you don't need it...

That's the best I can do for right now. Get SALT.

Okay. I will get the salt. I definitely know to trust your intuition, Elleise. Thank you for the heads up.

I wonder...is the salt for our physical or spiritual survival? Anyway, salt is a cheap but all-important resource with many vital uses for both physical and spiritual reasons! It is a crystal, let's not forget, and our body needs sodium. Plus, it is a preservative, antibacterial agent and antiseptic.

I can't wait to hear what you say about the salt!

It's interesting what you said about the "Y"...Everyone at any given time is standing at a fork in the road with a choice before them. Higher road, lower road, shorter road, longer road. Difficult journey with many lessons, easier road with fewer.

We forget that while some of us live in virtual paradise, others--many others--are living a very different experience. It must seem like the end of the world, even Armageddon, for those who stand in long lines for hand-outs with nowhere to sleep except around a fire lit in a trashcan amidst the rubble and ruin of their city. Or to those who are desperate to flee the violence in Syria, the mass genocides, the plagues and sickness, the lack of food and water...

And yet at the very same moment, there are others basking on white sandy beaches, sipping pina coladas, listening to the ocean waves.

This duality has existed since the beginning of mankind on earth. Why? Because this dimension *is* one of duality. There is a lot to learn and experience from duality.

So when psychics predict the future, I always ask, "Which one?" The ones who predict doom are right; the ones that predict growth are right as well.

Lori, you're 100% accurate and worded it perfectly! Brilliant!

I'm trying to balance, positive and negative information coming through and organize it in a way that can be followed, if people care to.

I want or don't want rather, but will, start w/the election.

The "Seers" are/were correct. Obama is done. Not to say he didn't or doesn't have fans, but not on the scale of what it seems.

I can't go into detail w/this at this time. It's somethihng I can honestly say, I didn't want to know. Plus, if it's "rocking" my world, I can't imagine what it would do to anybody else.

I will say, keep your eyes open. They'll be working on or "grooming" someone else, here in the near future.

Just pay attention to candidates.

What seems to be the most important, what comes through is to validate, TO INDIVIDUALS, that "felt" that "thing" and I wouldn't say this if it weren't in some way affirmed...something has changed. Positive is building in a fashion that's been lost over the past decade or so.

Message: "Trust not your eyes nor your ears. Go forth in light and Spirit..."

The "Sandy beaches" "Pina Colada's" (sp) etc., it's important to understand - come to terms with:

These are places your (figurative - applies to anyone) politicians are soliciting whether or not YOU can afford a vacation of your own.

You ARE paying for these trips, in addition to funding their wives, children, friends, their friends, etc.

If you're reading this...Just sit with that for a few seconds...walk away, do some laps, bake, take a bath, meditate, have a glass of wine and come back (if you'd care to later on).

Politicians at one time USE to live amongst the people. Things have changed since those times.

If a person cared to they could find, investigate my voting record, etc. I don't believe in "parties."

What I DO believe in is THE PEOPLE !And...just in case anyone is wondering - NEWS FLASH...don't care what color you are or country you're from. My door, if in need would be open.

I have to break this down. I've done something I don't normally do and that's investigate.

I found people who knew what they were talking about, but not biased. For instance, an engineere, a minister, another was an election counter, another a programmer, others, people who head up a specialty area I just happend to cross paths w/due to fate.

O.k. - SALT...Lori, you hit every base!

When you're (figurative) out an about, shopping, grocceries, just grab a container. If you can get it at say a dollar general or other discount areas, check the ingredients, but if it's salt, get it.

The question: Whether Spiritual or health affiliated...for now, the bridge begins with physical/health and you'll be glad you have it. It will act as a "tool box."

Shelf-life? That's something I'll have to look into.

P.S: There's a "new bug in town" and the system will become overloaded.

New Bug N town

So I got the salt. And although I am not an alarmist, I felt compelled to toss some emergency supplies into backpacks (granola bars, water, beef jerky). Nothing major but enough to sustain us through a few days without other supplies.

BTW, that is a curious pic attached to that link. Can you explain?

O.K...

This, especially people who know me, is something very, very, VERY difficult for me to do.

If you currently have kids on your lap or in the room while you're surfing or blogging, before you go to the following post after this one, please wait until they're tucked in bed or just not on your lap.

I've debated this for 2 months.

But, anything in the past that has come through, it's always been to protect/forewarn.

I absolutely hate (brings tears to my eyes) to have to say this, but i'm so sorry...the people will be the very last to know

It's not all bad, however. As I mentioned I'm trying to balance positive and negative.

This one "feels" too important. Following will be the reason why.

Wow! This thread is so long and energy packed (I used my senses to read it) that it took me over a week to complete it.

Elleise your sensing is amazing. There was almost nothing you said that did not resonate with me. The few times I was unbalanced had nothing to do, so much, with your seeing as it did with your wording/interpretation.

As seers, our interpretations are still challenged by our experiences. So, in terms of racism, I still have sensitivities based on my experiences. What we say out loud (and I too am guilty of this) can give people impressions that are swayed.

I don't even know where to begin.

Entitlements. I hope everyone here understands that entitlements have nothing to do with race. People that rely on entitlements for too long, forget that it is just a bandage for a short period of time, will have to stand up and make a way.

Obama. I think he came into office thinking that what he was planning to do, balance the racial paradigm, reach out to other nations, and stop the war on terrorism, was an honorable plan. He understood that no one man ever runs this country. He believed he could inspire people to do something bigger. He thought he could challenge the tilt and make the voices of the middle and lower class heard. What he walked into was simply bigger than what he anticipated.

Is he plotting to over take the world and crush a group of people? I don't think so (which is not anything that you have ever suggested here). But his thinking was very different than the energy of thought that has resided over the nation for centuries. For many, that could feel like doom. What it has done though, is make more people aware of politics and what is really going on.

His presence has empowered people to look at taking the reigns of their own lives. The entitlement group is about as big as the rich, 10%. People who are opposed to change because of racism is about 10%.

Fact is, at our core we are light and most of us want something better and more balanced. Many are simply not educated in the matter. So, something that looks, sounds, and operates very differently inspires the majority of us to look at things differently; to listen differently; and to operate differently. It is actually good for this country and the rest of the world.

The change was necessary to awaken the majority moreso than the minority. many people were too complacent and not listening. The presence of a different energy in power awakened their souls.

Obama is playing both sides because he really does believe that there is a balance available. Unfortunately, the game he has signed on for, does not believe, yet, in balance. When I say the game, I mean politicians within this great nation and outside of it.

The idea that our government is trying to control us is interesting to me because my spiritual notion has always been that the wealthy actually control the government and they are always using small, sneaky ways of controlling us anyway. Buzz words like "too much government" or "entitlements" or "gun control" or "health reform", are all ways to control us. They have done the research and discovered what will make us jump. The upset is that someone unlike what we are use to, has maybe learned that game.

Unfortunately, I was saddened on election night that Obama had won. While he was my choice (spiritual energy suggested we needed more of his energy to cleanse away much of what was done before) I realize he has not won. This human battle is huge and overwhelming. The President is our scapegoat for failure. I have felt that same sadness for Bush Jr., Clinton, and Carter.

In terms of racism being sited during his term in office and in the elections. I wish people would stop thinking that because they are not racist, racism is not going on. I too was blinded. I thought, because I have friends of many races and cultures, that racism only existed with a 1% in this nation. There have been many things during this President's term and candidacy that has shown me differently. I have never seen a President more disrespected than this one (Clinton runs a close 2nd).

Regardless, I believe that this forum is full of lightworkers and it is our job to witness the predictions that come through this thread and forum and send light to the capitol and around the globe. We have the power to create more positive change and sight. If we focus our energies toward greatness we can survive what is on the horizon.

Wow, Yvonnie...:)

There were so many things I wanted to quote as being just so accurate!


I agree, the ENERGY has changed and Obama, taking over the world, just no. He doesn't have that, well, type of, drill, (scraping for right word) going on.

He's a guy, just a guy. You could put me in a room and many a men could/would think along the very same lines as he.

Obama, feels, to me, like the Mcdonald's, "Big-mac," commercials.

It looks good, at the right time may even sound good, but leaving the house, going after one, getting to the processing center and if you cared to, taking a peak behind the counter, it's not quite like the commercial we hoped for which inspired the effort to get one.

Personally, I can't really think of a president that inspired me. I remember Reagan years only because our household had more money during his election, and my parents seemed more relaxed.

As race goes...growing up we were poor. I was made fun of, literally, daily, bullied, beaten up, spit on, not just by one person, but the entire classroom I could never get away from, because we all went on to the next grade level together.

Reason being, we were Polish, poor and grandparents, immigrants. Everyone else, was "old money" I think you call it.

It's in the past though and maybe we have cyber bullying but nothing so much like that anymore. to me every race has a pained history. This is the first time I've detailed mine.

What's more important, feels, that we're ALL Humanity, though. Controlling, has the ability to take that from us. Before you know it you don't trust anybody, don't or can't say what you mean and then become pitted against one another.

But there's really, no feeling like when you make Soul-to-Soul contact with another human being. Validated, eye contact, a smile...racism, is a ploy and you're right, the more people depend on entitlements and the less they do for themselves, it's not so far off that it ends up badly for those people.

I don't feel much energy w/Obama at all these days, but actaully more maybe with U.N? I don't even know what they do, but it does feel like a one-world gov and a small group of people with some type of busniness running behind them, but they do the speaking.

What people NEED, desperately need to remember, is, once everything you rely on (that sustains you) comes by one house alone, whichever house those needs happen to run through; are met by, will infact, make not only THE general rules by which they get there, but what you get, when you get it and many of the rules surrounding basic livelihoods as well!

In a controlled environment, I wouldn't be able to discuss those photos of myself. It would stir a panic, pandemic, epidemic...some type of "ic," lol.

One hospital, 2 major pesticide companies, 3 onsite investigators, an Inspector, Dr., RN, RA, "Have never seen anything like this before."

This is Real Time, and the specimens have been sent off to a certain lab, saving some for myself.

I can tell you anything you can't find about these bugs (mites) out there in the open right now because I'm not regulated.

Otherwise, I'd have to sugar coat it or wait for some A.O.K from, a scientist, his higher up, their higher up, etc. etc.

What I feel it is is a mutation of the bed-bug. So, like a tier, Bed-bug, Bat-bug, bird-mite.

We'll have to wait and see. What stand out is the intelligence behind these mites. They communicate w/each other and can survive just about anything.

O.k. I have to start out (maybe not) but the "race" thing dying off., etc.

I align experience (vibrations) with message (vibrations).

The reason I never became involved or pre-occupied w/race is that I already live in the "Utopia" where everyone is the same. I don't see color, race, country, just:

Together WE stand!

If/WHEN - always, when...I have a reaction it's either I'm in a bad mood, I myself am preocupied with a flash or vision or you know??? You just might stink as far as company goes or I'm just not "on-board."

Like "Mother Earth" I Truth-Eyes, have no favorites, nor feel the need to distract people with whatever it was I personally went through.

However, we are, I feel, getting closer...to this thing that's almost like a build up that bursts...but it's not the end-all-BE-all that some people may make it out to be.

WHAT I'D LIKE PEOPLE TO CONSIDER IS:

NOT the end of the world, but a changing one and we just happen to be in the middle of such a mark in history...

The "change" isn't what you think it is, nor I...but the "FEELING" to look out for, the common enemy by name rather:

GREED
That's it. It's been and is the only enemy, regardless of race, party, PC or not.

I've lived both "on the system" and off.

I've lived among immigrants recently (outside of my grandmother) and off (BTW it's Polish, Russian and Cherokee) I'm a mut.

Still, It's like brain matter is just mush...and the littlest thing sets a person off and yes, there's more, they are ALL feeling, thinking, they're special sure, but more so pretty much taking whatever they can and either going back or sending it back to their origins.

If you can set yourself aside from race or color of your skin I'd have you ask first - which isle whould you prefer to be on?

One with their hands out or ones with shovel in hand?

After that, here in the immediate future, where we were flooding with Survival techniques etc.

I'd like, just in general, if I could, help and have people, no matter what, have the means or be able to operate, on their own w/ I guess you call them "rations," but just have canned goods, stock (as in soup), SEALED oats, flour and such to get you through 1-3 months and DON'T...Do NOT forget (more than just one canister) salt...it will act as a tool box.

This is going to be painful...mostly to me as I really don't care (about the election).

So why post? Because for the love of Christ it WON'T leave me ALONE!

So here, maybe I'll get a good night's sleep and purge!

The Election.

O.k. this for whatever reason, does not go away. The election was NOT what it seems. Truth-eyes, "Trust not your eyes and ears but go forth in light..."

What came to me then and currently will not leave me alone...the election isn't or wasn't, what it seems (i'm almost certain about this).

So, like it's more, the numbers were down for Obama...BIG TIME, even before the election.

There's also some sort of marital disagreement. (Again..all intuition/feelings).

The michele person doesn't want to go along, Obama understands, the election was not in his favor, but something behind him needed it to be a 2-term presidency?????

Otherwise, it wouldn't hold so much.

"Across-the-isle" I dont' know what that means...trying to bridge a gap? But anyway, that along w/"Can't we ALL just get along???" Those statements are meant to silence or get people on board.???

THIS IS A READ....(stuff you're not likely to see in the news and rightfully so) it's wierd feeling it.

I don't feel Obama didn't HAVE supporters, but I don['t feel the election is what it seems. It feels almost he feels, it's one thing to WIN an election another to be given. I'll give him credit for that...ya, that stinks.

Anyway, I feel Romney (and all I know of him is he's a business man and Mormon) had the gain and in fact...now that the election is over, Obama needs to consult Romney on just what it is America wants...not how the spin could be like he's the bigger man inviting his opponent to the table.

In the mean time, piddley attempts at gay marriage (which I'm for) and immigration (which I'm for) will serve to distract.

Try to look at these things as "commercials" Not that they aren't important, but investigate what the real issues really are.

With immigration, we/America want you, join w/you, enjoy basically the different colors of the rainbow!!

The issue (in short) it's a money builder and vote support if they don't "Remedy it" right away and it isn't the "race" of immigration or any race in general...what the REAL people are stuck on is that everyone pay their "Fair Share."

Welfare, the issue there is/feel/affirms to be should be for people who need it, not to get wealthy on and immigration, "Come on in." But, pay taxes, like everyone else.

Forget the "Dream Act" and other deflections/get Real, observe just common sense practices and don't wait for someone or some group to tell you what will be...believe it or not, we've more in common than ANY government will EVER admit!

P.S. Look up styles of gov. Just do. You'll save a lot of time and energy

That last part is REALLY important as well as getting an up to date view of racism. Understand what a "tag" is but more importantly the human Spirit, we actually like each other

With immigration, we/America want you, join w/you, enjoy basically every thing.Obama view about immigration reforms is good and surly will secure our interest.

Not necessarily.

You, with this administration, would be good to do your own individual homework. Meaning understanding or seeking to understand more than just what one individual might tell you or have their group of persons speak to you about in the schools or abroad.

Times as of now aren't what you see, what you get. You'll want to understand what it is you will in fact be getting

This, is a heavily loaded topic, on so many different levels.

For now, as I try to sort into words what will best help people, seeking to join positive efforts, moving genuinely forward and not just via name, project or following "PC suit" supportiveness...etc.

Racism is a dying breed and cause. We are more akin to one another, more loving, than any "power-house" would like for a whole to be aware.

Reason being - (simple) It diffuses their efforts and order, if we're already loving one another...

I had wanted to put together a true story (minus names) to demonstrate an example or what, at least in this area chicago, (central IL) we're seeing here.

It has to do w/the struggling America and what is being taught in the name of equality and/or socialism, having left being presented as right and right being presented as left, etc.

Mind boggling as it may be - regardless of race, there are those beginning to see through the fog and mist, coming together as human beings, leaving the totem of projectile racism far behind.

I think the economic conditions of the country will be better in near future.The reason being that the Obama is very clear about its economic policies and many other issues like immigration policies.

Welcome Smitthe

I always welcome enlightened conversation regarding our political as well as economic structures of this country and the future possibilities it encompasses.

Reviewing this administration's past and current reasonings and "Executive Order" decision making, as well as passings of virtually unreadable decifering of bills by the average person, American or immigrant (being of immigration myself, this is very dear to heart) "The Obama" has been anything BUT clear in its intentions for immigrants and/or the current status of the country as it stands.

My husband's place of work, how I would love to share the real conversations he has WITH the staff, composed of immigrants, Americans and multitude of different races, and they are very wise!

I wouldn't classify them as fans either, though there are a few.

When he first began working there, the immigrants especially were a bit skiddish (??)... for lack of better word.

Like, why would a white guy want to talk to me? He, as I love pretty much everybody unless you go out of your way to be just a poor human-being.

Well now, everyone loves him there where as in the beginning they thought he was racist simply because on the surface he's white/caucasion...whatever (I'm a mut, cherokkee, polish, russian, irish white gal).

Anyway, they shared with him that's what's being taught to them AND that if you don't like Obama it's only because he's black.

Well, he proved them wrong and they now look to him to explain things that don't make sense. In return, they teach him phrases here and there of their language. He enjoys that greatly and has brought me into his work place as well.

One individual I met works here in the U.S. but sends cash back to Mexico to help his mother and grandmother. He pulled out a postcard that read..."We voted for Obama and all of the hope, but all we got was a little bit of change...(it had pennies trickling down the side)."

Not being from this country, if they get it, I'm fairly certain people within their own homeland soon will be getting it as well if they haven't already.

However, if you have specifics of what is very clear, I welcome the sharing and can pass that along to them as well.

I think the economic conditions of the country will be better in near future.The reason being that the Obama is very clear about its economic policies and many other issues like immigration policies.

The truth is that there is a yin-yang principle that is going on. There is much negativity taking place but also incredibly amazing positive forward movement. It depends on what you focus on. Where you are in the world.

It's interesting, Elleise, but your insights prove accurate many times. There is a new bedbug type infestation.

I also believe that the economy will be much brighter--soon.

Thanks Lori

I've heard the economy will improve...man I'm just not "feelin" it, in the legitimate sense, and believe me, I've had arguements with my husband and had that thingy you know, where you kind of want to be right, but this time...not so much, lol. I really hope I'm wrong!

Things that come through to me, I distinguish by whether or not they repeat or present themselves over and over. Like when I'm just trying to sleep or in the middle of cooking and not thinking of much of anything, lol.

I criticise myself basically, as to what sticks or doesn't.

"The Change..." yes it's changing. But to see exactly WHAT that change is, you pretty much have to look at your taxes. That's what I get anyway, and the difference between those that are working, entrepaneaur/ salary, VS having benefits for not...

Most human-beings, want to be a part of aiding...but this doesn't feel like that. It feels like a way to have people "foot" FOR coming together, but in the background, it feels like a way to make poeple feel better about doing with less while while gv does what it wants, regardless of being held accountable.

That's the part that's dangerous...

It feels, anyone from ..well just someone working vs, people getting benefits (there's something there) I can't see it entirely or,lol...maybe blocking it out. But there's something about the elderly in there too, but that has more to do w/health? maybe or they won't see the same type of balance financially or benefits or something...like ARGG losing value to home and body??

Me, I'm neither rep or dem. I feel, though, that People that cling to one side or the other, isn't what seems to be what reconciles??

It's going to be LOVE and your next-door neighbor (a trusted one) and even then you'll need to have a sense of not feeling the need to defend the current order, because...like a "cheer-leader" but sincere, TRUST. If you feel you ARE conflicted...it's one of those things to take a walk or step outside or ask questions as to WHY you're defending.

TRUST, the type I'm feeling coming here, doesn't feel to have a race either....positive, legitimate change, ends up happening when people come together regardless of race. They'll begin getting it,...finally..they'll see how it's been used in a way.

It's something like that, where they feel finally broken free from the chains of separation and more Soul-minded.

One of my favorite lines was from a movie ( and as well a favorite of mine), "A Walk in the Clouds."

The line: "Just because I speak with an accent doesn't mean I think with an accent."

That's what I'm finding...and that's a Truth-Eyes

People of many races are at least as I'm listening whn I am in the company (I try to keep my words to a minimum, lol) but they feel "manipulated??" best word I can come up with.

They want to know the real deal and I love the fact that people are beginning to seek knowledge out.

For a period of time...the economy "may?" improve?

The reason I say or type this as such is that there's still a channel of people who will beleive the "commercialized" economy.

However it will be, to almost distract....or a quick fix to get a person to do or say something.

The taxex WILL affect what I'm getting anyway, everyone. So, just keep that in the back of your head and BY ALL MEANS - EXPLORE what seems "in" to advertise or go along with.

The "Seers" were right" and I appreciate their efforts. Many are feeling defeated in some ways. But Ying-Yang - that's spot on. You'll hear things BUT you'll feel things as well.

When they're not matching...it's time to do some homework.

I LOVE a Walk in the Clouds!

Oh, me too...I have "Walk In The Clouds" in 3 different formats.

It's really cool someone can relate to this

Well, the economy won't improve for everyone but for the majority. People still have their karma to work through plus learn about their own ability to create through energy vibration.

I see that we have a ways to go with untangling the whole tax system, too.

I haven't seen "Walk in the Clouds" but will try to watch it soon.

Lori, thanks for being a "Sounding board" for me

I really appreciate it. The flashes are almost haunting and I find having to readjust or explain, a great deal due to, you know, the blogging aspect and how abstract things can come across.

First thing. I'm pro-freedom and more power to the people, all people, but w/reflection, working together, setting racial issues aside, helps to gain momentum.

This reflection is real work, meaning, can't have it both ways.

So, say for instance a person screaming EQUALITY, but really, demands to be treated differently, perhaps by getting extras and going along with the loudest voice in a leadership body, would actually negate the affect.

This is relevent in how people end up donating to the future

Second, not an obama fan. That'l never change. I've tried. All I feel is a ruse...(have to look that word up) Didn't even know who the guy was until back before 2008 someone asked about an election...didn't know we had one coming up. I said I needed photos. They showed me the candidates and I said, "that guy." Pointing to obama.

The Economy: Keep in mind, still trying to sort out flashes (BTW wasn't a Busch fan either...just in case someone feels the need to put the race-thingy or something in there).

What I'm getting (and I really hate it) is overall, people will be told, the economy is doing great.

What I see though in my head is: cards being shuffled under a table. (this is just how my "stuff" works, images). No faces, but the table is green, lol....go figure, and in the shape of a stop sign???

I feel there will be/are "winners" and "loses" in the corporate sect. The Winners will be those that aid in some manner.

Overall, though, I feel people still struggling w/the essentials and taxes primarily.

Prices - especially having to do with food, the essentials, but also, like hidden taxes and a connected-ness of information. It's like if you use say electricity at certain times, your bill will go up, water, gas, same thing, maybe different percentages, just blaechhhh...it on't realy have to do w/anything, but it will advocated, it does for some readon, like "Peek" hrs or something.

Appliances come in here too. So say to OFFSET these taxes, people will be prompted to purchase, say like "Smart"???? Appliances??? The word, "smart" seems relevant...

There's also a struggle like people eventually just stop with the insanity of paying the invisible structure of taxes. Some may even go to jail or something, but that's not right now. Thing is, there'l be no room to actually put them in jail (again, later on).

So before, it's possible to get to this point, I guess what's prompting these writings is just reflection or the thought that the next time, a person feels stirrings or hatred for a business owner, corporation, specific race, etc., or combination...if they're doing it on their own, on their own 2 feet, gift that w/respect, not disdain.

If you happen to favor having the GV take care of your needs, then thank the working class citizen whom without, you'd not have re-fill on your EBT or housing paid for...

Well, what these little bug bites are...well, they're certainly mites! And it's on the down-low...

Ironically, I signed on after not for a while and found this headline:

The darker side of bats...

It's close..., like an "introdution", of what I felt, but these are mites that have to do w/birds.

Also, if anyone is interested I've had 2 TV series cross my path in the past month that pretty much resonate, just in general.

"Revenge & House of Cards":

Of the 2 - House of Cards feels to shed, oh so much! Rather it's like watcing the inside of my brain. Just found it recently:

House of Cards Trailer

Revenge has more to do w/corporate mishandlings and even those have connections that I feel are happening to this day along side a Public channel.

Well this is really nice that the economic conditions must be changed by the time and it make the results positive in future.So,I think that it is nice for us and our National economy.

In the end, things work themselves out, but it's one of those issues where, what happens isn't anything like we've been told.

I do see bartering well into the future and quite frankly, you should be seeing it now.

This bit has been in the making for awhile now and a great deal of it hype.

Self-sufficiency will come in handy in more ways than one and with tax increases, the amount of money you may not see in your pocket, you can easily make up for in trade or growing yourself.

Now here's a dichotomy:

I swung my fist into the air in 1983 and demanded that God prove that he was more powerful than money.

My family and I have successfully kept this little mom & pop motel solvent for the last 33 years:

http:
//www.moteldaytona.com/

We've been bartering since day one.

We still do it today.

As you will see in my other posts I receive SSI.

This is possible because the motel is in a special-needs trust and a corporation run by and IRS Enrolled Agent.

The Universe meets every bill, every month.

Momentum.

It was a hell-ride however to get here.

I was predisposed to schizophrenia because of my aunt in Europe, she was hospitalized during WWII and my grand-mother and my mother who had ' nerves ' as they called it in the 50's & 60's.

She got B-12 shots back then.

Your mentioning of staying away from news, fear, and money woes prompted me to write this.

God has placed Connie and I in a ' protective bubble ' where we have full control of what media to allow and I spend hours a day just meditating.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, and as mention people have their karma to work through.

You ladies are accelerating at a logarithmic rate e.g. quantum rate so I added this forum to my watched list.

Here’s a positive thought:

RE: My picture

Magic, Mirrors, Merlin and light contrasting midnight blue with a fluffy calico female kitty.

What more could a body ask for ???!!!

He He

Let me put it another way:

My body is so sensitive that when I eat beef pot roast, as the beef is going through my system -- the anger that those animals felt comes through me.

I have no means, motive or desire to become vegan.

I work through it.

We have some local farmers who will deliver and recently we got tomatos to can, corn to freeze and kiwis no less + bananas.

Also, we live on a river and have a stainless steel distiller in case we have to make a tepee.

There is a lot of smoke and mirrors especially when it comes to money and the value of homes.

Here is a Highly Qualified Lady who witnessed the BS first hand:

http:
//solari.com/articles/tapeworm_economics/

Her Resume:

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Solari, Inc.
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This is so great, really interesting.

I like the word "protective-bubble."

Just the other day my husband and I were saying, the Universe has made it to where, we're untouchable for pretty much everything and living not great but well.

Where some people might feel they have to compromise or go to the other side...we are not in that position. Basically, there was nothing left to take, we rebuilt and don't rely and anything outside of ourselves..

Bartering pretty much covers every aspect, regardless of gv or what's being presented.

Whether it's popular or not to speak of, the people really are coming together behind the scenes.

Headlines near and far may try to present something entirely different with a few strokes of a key here and there, but people, they're simply taking things into their own hands letting the headlines role while working with eachother.

This is the closest thing I could find. I can't read well enough to find where I wrote about feeling strongly to not necessarily "hoard" but "know how to make your own tortillas, bread, have maybe enough on hand (food-wise) to get you through about 3-months..."

It's in this forum somewhere, but anyway - what I call, "Seers" or "Pattern Identifiers" were kind of getting a hard time of it w/their feelings about food. It's not the world comes to an end - what REAL "Seers" try to do w/their "Stuff" is help people.

There's a saying, "To be forwarned is to be fore-armed."

Wherever I wrote it, I rembember specifically mentioning "EBTs" or food assistance. Something like even if you happen to receive assistance, be prepared say like something were to happen and there's a glitch somewhere or the machines don't work like an ATM or something:

Here's one of the examples of the "feeling" coming through back then. BUT, this one feels short-term. The other thing coming feels longer.

EBT Glitch Affects 17 States

I've been on EBT and I've gotten off of it. In regards to this however, try not to listen to the "gossip" about HOW it happen. That feels like a distraction.

The message feels strongly:

"This COULD happen to you..."

and please care for yourselves. Be aware/centered, and please be willing to offer help to someone who might happen to find themselves in need.

P.S. Most importantly - don't panic, just be pre-pared for bumps in the road and it'll go much smoothly both for you as an individual and together (as human-beings) with compassion, as a whole.

WHAT NOT TO DO:

Empty Food Shelves. Just think calmly, rationally and with compassion for your fellow man and woman.

EBT ers Empty Food Shelves

"If" and I use these terms broadly...if some of the what nots or unpredictables truly are just an "oops," well...If this can happen then, what can happen When?

Keep your faith, head straight and as a postcard of what not to do, recognize even if you are thinking ahead, you'll be among some who aren't quite thinking it through or what's legitimate, from portions of politics to hackers, and anything in between.

Just be prepared reasonably

So true.

There is a lot of fear out here today, so it is very
wise to think it through.

As we spoke of before....some nonperishable supplies on hand,
just in case.

If a friend or neighbor is without, I want to share...it's
all about service to others.

Peggy, you're right. Especially about the perishables. Just there's one thing about the msg - "Servicing..."

In my "field" if there is one. ADD moment (Can't wait to tell the science people, "Told ja so.") Anyway,

Servicing: is a careful word currently. The feeling I get is it's almost being commercialized so you're doing something or going along w/something in the "name" or (can't quite find the right word).

Like "Servicing" the word is the front, say like a cereal box. But in the box...like what's behind, in the fine print works in a way just the opposite. That part - only has to do w/politics and getting people to go along w/something. (I really don't want to know)....

In your heart, you have to know what you are. I'm the last one to sit down, the last to eat, sleep and keep going for the comfort and helpfulness of others. I recycle like a maniac - I think, lol...my marriage may be at stake (kidding) but I beleive strongly what the Earth can and can't decompose. If I could I'd make biodegradable garbage bags.

If you find someone in need, you offer. You share, just align your heart to be giving, even if you have little, BUT look under the rock when it comes to other things in the "name" of servicing, especially.

Uh, I had some dreams. One is really good...the other I haven't a clue what it means, but my husband said I said something in my sleep. I'll post that in the dreams and Clairvoyance thread somewhere. It seems real.

This last part - it's been coming through, but not as strongly as it is now. It goes something like this:

For those that feel they're on the "in..." when they no longer need you, you'll be in the "skirts???" Whatever that means. It's wordy. (I know, like I have any room to talk, lol).

To me, if I were to say it, I'd say something along the lines of: "From race to Unions, they're playing ya like a cheap fiddle..."

I say, love your neighbor as yourself...that's it. Really get into that meaning. Don't just say the words. Do you or don't you? I do, always will AND be willing to offer or do whatever I can.

O.k.

This one's off in "left-field" from what was last posted. I know it is. Food, actually more than that - higher costs, watered down ingredients and veggies eventually all coming from some type of water solution green house...like you're actualy penalized from having a garden or something. No barrels of rain water, etc.

ADD - so "RECRUIT" that's a word that's been up a crawl w/me for some time. Sure we've all heard (most of us) something along the lines of "Mail order bride."

This is more sophisticated...

So, there's this appearance of "glamour" be it male or female from socialist countries.

This somehow ties into the Obamistake....

So like, it feels like people from countries w/Dictators and Socialist countries that fleed and/or risked all to come to the US, etc.

Well there's a reason (think now) why their people left. Hmmmm...so, maybe it wasn't working out so well for them w/their people leaving?

I mean what happens when they have to do all the work themselves? Ouch - not so much into downsizing for themselves, just you

Well, rather than admit the "hoarding" actually comes from the 'leaders' of those countries, they join together.

It feels, the "U.S. is the last on board. It completes the circle of which also seems or feels that this "high-speed rail thingy" builds - even over seas.

You'll know a true leader when they begin living, building from the ground up, just like you. Rich or poor - it's greed that's the enemy. Nothing more, nothing less.

Recruiters came through when I blurted, "Ya, I'm not a 'go canada' type person."

My husband said, "Where'd that come from?" I'm like, "No idea, in fact I've been there. It's a beautiful place. We used to compete in Drum-corp there.

Anyway, it feels like this. Though they don't say we want or are going in a Socialist direction, the glitches and all that, come from them (Canada) and "recruits" feel like those looking for lonely people to "hook-up" with, basically tapping into, ehemmmm:

The UNTAPPED resources, they no longer have.

So here's where the "feelings" are at...

This unseemingly odd headline about ketchup?

All I saw was the headline. Now one area or link down played it and I got that thing that happens when, well it feels like "Alice falling down the rabbit hole."

So, I actually do the forbidden and interupt (kidding) just I had to know I could feel it, but I couldn't put it into words.

So basically, Mcdonald's is breaking up with "Heinz"

(I'm like...ther's something more..." That's when I go to my husband, the smart, "Joe of the Allison dubois or more analytical, is a better word."

His first words were -

"Poor John Kerry???"

I keep talking and he's like don't you know who that is?

I'm like, "NO."

Well John or Joh Kerry ran for president, lost or something then went over to Sweedin and threw some purple heart metals over through the Withouse-fence before he left. He shot himself in the fooot or something to come back to America and ran for pres.

Anywho...he marrieds the "HEINZ" heiress. And after like probably 50 yrs. a break in union, even down to ketchup - well there's contracst and a LOT of money to be made.

His words, "This is political." I agree.

The topical reason is they hired some Burgerking dud that reinvented some menue.

Those are distractions, but litteral...basically, it feels like a war and between foodstamps and (which if you don't know it already - your tax dollars pay for everythign you've been hy[ed to be "healthy about." Well....guess who's coming to dinner on YOUR DIME???


McDonalds, Heinz & Foodstamps

P.S. (Ii'll edit this tomorrow...I can't take much more of his... )

O.K...WIERDNESS is all I can say.

But this is for you, if you've happened to come across this thread and/or traveling via automobile (I'd actually forgotten Thanksgiving was coming up. I apologize - Truth-eyes! More than ever, giving thanks has made Elleise' VIP's list and you can buy your way to the top on that one, lol).

We drove by car to Maine recently. A 20-30 hr. drive. You see a lot of interesting things, people and such when you do it that way. BUT THIS??? Not so much.

On some interstate there was a blue car weaving in and out of traffic. It was a very busy interstate. I want to say 84???

Anyway, it was closer to the East where this happened.

Traffic was getting a little more congested and I think the MPR was 65 or 70. We always go the speed limit and everyone else was doing the same. No one was wipping by us.

This blue car goes about maybe 85-maybe under just 90 and passes everyone up in the left hand lane, but they did this on the shoulder, so people were jerking their wheel out of shock and coming into our right hand lane.

My husband said, "IS that guy CRAZY or just DRUNK? He's gonna kill somebody." I'm like, "I don't know, but if you've cell service you might keep it handy just in case..."

So picture this. The car is now out of site and we're cresting a hill, going down it. There's a bridge above us. So are all the other cars behind us.

The guy jumps out of the car just as we're approaching (we're still in the right-hand-lane) he stands in the middle of the interstate waving his arms and points at us.

My husband slams on his breaks and I'm like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU'RE GONNA CAUSE A PILE UP!!!! Keep going!!!!!!!"

He tells me "It's a TROOPER - what do you want me to do???"

"Keep going, that guy's smacked out of his brain!"

So, he's now half in and half out of the right and left lane and the guy is now yelling at us. I just look at the trooper with my palms up - like WTF...shaking my head like what do you want us to do.

He points at me and says, "GO!!!!!!!!!!!! Get OUT OF HERE!!!!"

From there, he pointed to every single car behind us and pulled each and every one of them over to the side of the road.

They weren't speeding!! That's the important thing I'm addressing here. I know this because they we all behind us and we weren't.

What happened after that, I can't tell you but for this. NEVER and I do mean NEVER EVER in my entire life have I seen something like this.

My husband looked in the rear-view mirror and saw between 8-12 cars just sitting there and I'm like, "It's one guy...one kamikaze-cop acting recklessly. What would happen if people just didn't listen and kept going?

My husband said, "A few of them, would probably have their plates written down or have camera footage "reviewed" and site them for abading-arrest or something."

"O.k. hon, but none of them were speeding. We weren't speeding, so why's the guy pulling them over?"

"I don't know...I'm just grateful it wasn't us."

I do not know what that was, but if you have holiday traveling plans by car, I simply wanted to share an experience that pretty much rocked my world. And, w/me??? That's a fairly difficult thing to achieve these days.

Drive safely and Happy Holidays and remember what you believe in as well as those whom near or far are close to your heart

Imagine waking up and "seeing," feeling this in your heart, mind and Soul w/out one physical indication, at least in your neck of the woods, there's anything to it, for 7 or 8 yrs. prior to it coming about. All the while watching, feeling w/a bleeding heart, the populous following a "yellow brick road" to a land, that simply doesn't exist.

There's a reason people flee dictatorships, risking everything, despite what some people may say, to come to America.

I almost have it...Oh, it's called FREEDOM!

Lifting Presidential Term Limits?

"Fearing" the voters? Well, in layman's terms, that in it's essence would REALLY be, "The People's Voice!." That's what freedom is all about.

When you take away presidential term-limits, what you have is basically a dictatorship. Something the U.S. has so graciously intervened in, removing certain dictators that were "critical" to the "sustainability" of the countries they ruled and the people there-in.

For clarification, you kind of want your voice, and the freedom to have that voice heard. When they're silenced what's the point?

But more importantly, what is it you have left when all voices reside by the hands and one mouth's ruling? It's certainly something to think about.

So, before I try and go to sleep (lol) which is why I DON'T teach people how to hone in any more to "The Other Side."

It's more a tragic experience than it is something to be envied.

However, I made a deal w/my husband. I don't bluff and I DO keep my word. I wouldn't post unless I felt completely necessary - come what may. My repercussions will come probably, lol tomorrow AM in which I'll pretend to be asleep

So, what's next?

If I were to say it all - that would be likely a negative amo.

Instead what I'll prefer to do is aid the Beings of human-nature, we happen to be. Bare w/me...plz.

So, this is it. What IS next?

We pull together and put aside our disagreements, better now than later, meaning NOW; this second. Do what you have to to come to terms w/whatever separates you from your brothers and sisters. No matter what religion, what region, what ethnicity, etc. This hour is late.

The market? notice, not capitalized. See-SAW. You can see the saw if you want and make some profits here in the short run. Again, these are just my feelings - which include the market is "artificially inflated." Have no idea what that means, but I trust it.

Does it mean "Pull out completely?" No...that's not here yet.

What's here, as of now, which was here but I was silent.

Inflation!

My affirmations come in odd ways. With this? Well, I make ALL of our foods. My husband can bring home a dish from a restaurant and I can duplicate it w/in a week.

Having said that, I notice my foods, the quality and most certainly QUANTITY! The prices are up, the quantity down, hoping that people don't see it wandering around on the wknds in a WM or any where else.

The foods rot quite quickly, now that the "Health-wave" has gotten rid of the things that actually preserved your foods so you didn't have to.

Incomes, taxation...which was why I mentioned research your ingredients as well as what it is you just blindly support.

WHAT'S IN TODAY? The Truth!

Tacos - the shells are 1/3 the size. Produce, expires w/in 2-3 days. There's a push to do away w/automobiles and integration for inter-cities to "progressively" bring forth drug stores and "jobs."

Careful w/that one. I'd get w/my local boards. Basically, take downtown Chicago or Detroit and plant them where people actually take care of their lands and pay their bills.

Be prepared for Community colleges (if you're in that zone) to take education we USED to have to work to pay for, for free. Nothing say progress like free of charge.

Along with that "free of charge" will come more crimes, subsidies, etc. where, say a BUS-Service for your children...well where it COULD be done w/in the rural areas...guess what? You'll find off the charts non-sensical contract coming from inter-cities.

All of this will have to do w/"sustainability."

What I also feel coming are higher real-estate taxes as well as fines growing your own via "organic" (meaning a fine for NOT and census stating you in fact are), collecting waters, etc.

All of the things we voiced together as to how to make ends meet.

Where will you stand? Where do WE stand? The fence? Camilians?

We reach out to one another. It doesn't matter what race or religion unless of course they have intent of damage in the form of well DEATH onto others.

I don't know what "Hyper-inflation" is, but someone recently told me, I was onto something and quite frankly I told them I soOoo don't wan't to know.

When your jobs, finances in your own country aren't what tabloids say they are...what do you do?

Discern where your monies go. If you can't politically do even that - you move on to what you can do.

What your FREE-WILL supports!

(I'm so in for it when my husband gets home. Eh, worth it )

This is just a funny...

But before that, expect taxes - up, up, up:

Clouds The View's a Little Nicer

Recently I actually had a headline presented to me saying:

"Why NOT to worry about food cost increases" K...that's your headlines.

I'll have some tips, because you WILL want to pay attention. We always should, but we'll need to pay (my feelings are) a bit MORE closer attention.

SO THE FUNNY...

I went out w/my husband to a restaurant and a woman he kind of sort of knows says, "OH...REAL FOOD!!!!"

So, I'm confused and let her go on.

"SHE'S NEVER FELT BETTER!!!!"

For 3 weeks, she's had "0" sugar. "0" fats of any sorts. "0" salt. "0" Gluten (???). "0" citrus. "0" pretty much anything.

I'm like, "Were you able to eat AIR?"

That's my sarcasm, yes...and she couldn't understand why her emotions were out of whack and why diarrhea happened to be abound.

I'm into a healthy diet, but REALLY?

Name ONE politician that has smoothie-slurpies for their "inner-circle-dinners," "hotel block-outs," "restaurant buy-outs...?"

But we're into protein liquid, w/a hold out for one meal in which to enjoy per month.

Make way for insects to join, not THEIR DIETS, but yours!

Your body will usually tell you what you need and don't via cravings.

BTW? SALT...

Went out East and guess what? Can't find a single club soda, soda water or the like w/ANY salt whatsoever.

We actually NEED salt, to an extent, or we get lethargic.

Careful what you grow My feelings are there will be penalties there as well.

Learn now how to work w/mother nature, what she's capable of and within the boundaries of checks-n-balance (of her own distinction)

This will be short - lol, to the relief of the reader. This particular thread takes a lot of energy. However, I'll get on here a bit later.

I want to go back to food. Reason being - my husband came home w/a bit of good news. That has to do w/putting your BEST-FOOT forward, even in this "economy" which headlines will say, is "just fine." That I want to go into later.

For now, I've got to get going, so FOOD:

After his 12 hr shift - my husband went to the grocer. One chicken, about the size of 2 palms put together: $6.50 (he passed).

The drinks he packs for his lunch overnight? the price increased $1.50 (he passed) oh...my bad, it was on sale (he-he) Um...ya. Up $1.50 on sale for .35 off.

So, the article presented to me "Not to worry about food prices" Didn't believe it then and don't now. But if a person does it right, and I can help w/that...your family should be safe and sound. It's just going to take a tad bit of doing things a little differently

Have to write more - like on paper. I made myself that promise. Plus I have to get my husband's suits ready for his shift. Juggling I think we call it...and they say, "The weaker sex" mwa-ha-ha. Don't think so.

Past the Present

For now learn this word!

"SUSTAINABILITY"

Here's a story about a name-named father...

So, my father asks, "I don't understand. If what you see actually happens, how will there be an economy, how will they expect to bring in finances?"

"Easy, they'll tax your actions. You'll no longer be able to cash in on the aluminum - you'll be fined for not recycling. You'll or your local gov. since THEY overspent and blamed it on this or that - well, they'll sell out for grants in the name of this or that.

For now it'll be the "sustainability of your local garbage whatever (whoever it is that picks it up" "sustainability will come in w/your bulbs both indoors and out"

Incomes LTD or something about keeping the sky healthy for ALL to enjoy.

"They'll, since Dr's are leaving left and right, will have what will be something like a convenience...however...they'll be required to document that within the home.

You'll be asked and or FINED for not abiding by certain rules - as such, well, primarily you'll have designated "garbage-bags", "garbage-containers", etc. You'll be told (in general) something along the lines of, "IN ORDER TO HELP THE COMMUNITY YOU NEED TO - basically drive your trash somewhere, in the mean-time, until they get their end set up - WHY?"

Because they won't want to live on a level they're un-accustomed to...so it's kind a, a sell out. For grants or rather "community" income, YOU'LL be required to do MORE and MORE and MOOOOORRRREEE. Think it through. Try to anyway.

HERE? (where we live)GUESS WHAT?

Well, that conversation above, happened quite some time ago.

As of today and I know there's a photo somewhere...where it was said, the "snow on the ground put the city garbage route at risk. (Uh, the photo, plus the date, well it's nothing but sunny skies) BUT...we do on the other hand have our first "Sustainable Urban Dev." with our FIRST garbage dump in their front lawn (including an empty school bus).

More to come on that one...i.e. a service out of NYC vicinity...leaving a group of children in the snow when reported, well there weren't "technically" any CHILDREN on the bus...(where does it end???).

We've (here, in IL) also been addressed as having to bring our OWN garbage to the local drive. WHY?

It's:

"Sustainable"

It's "Sustainable" Why?

Answer: It saves gas and carbon this and that. BUT - Hmmmmmm, if I still happened to have my common sense intact...thinking it through -

So, hundreds of cars - um driving their OWN garbage to a LOCAL area saves gas and carbon this and that.

Where as ONE vehicle, which taxes - I mean OUR personal taxes pay for the service...well, we SAVE the planet by each and every household starting up their car, shoving their garbage in their back seat of which cars are getting smaller and smaller might I add....and um well as far as THAT goes -

You could save some gas by simply taking the BUS. However...thinking THAT through - take a bus to drop off and pick up what you can carry. WHILE still paying higher and higher taxes.

My HATS OFF to the "Seers" that tried to warn of such things.

P.S.

Add in the local record: Reads "House Auditors wanted. No experience required. Government Jobs."

Have a photo of that too

Investigate what you support. No race or sex will be that of a bias. Sad to inform ANY of this...but there it is.

On to a happier notion. People are more the wiser and actually turn to each other. The way it has been and should have been all along INSTEAD of silence and division!

I see a lot coming and happening here in the very near future. It's never been about fear mongering, power (eh, somewhat, but not from genuine Seers) just a reaching hand.

I know people are struggling.

IF YOU ARE, maybe you're not...but, I'm right there with you at your side and you're probably doing as much as you can possibly think to do.

Things to come are going to be interesting. Where we didn't have a "Front-Line," well, we do now.

Way back when I wrote, "If what I see to come, happens, it won't matter what hand you reach for (meaning race,creed or kind) you'll reach for it in comradery (sp)

Those aren't the exact words but they're pretty close.

There IS a stirring of Chaos on both sides. I feel it's, in a way designed to do just that. Think of the balancing of a "teeter-totter." If one side or another can make money...so be it.

That, for me anyway, isn't my direction, path, etc. I tend to see idiots on both sides of the fence while the majority in the middle endures.

Within this frustration CHAOS can and will be the target of implementing further chaos.

When a human Soul is treading water with everything they've got, caught in the middle of being played and entertainment - if you were an observer, what precisely would you think to find?

Both sides, power. Both sides ego.

There's more, but please just think on this even if it's for a fraction of a second. It's simply what I've seen

Every now and then I pace what I see coming...it's not always pleasant, but if a person has the inclination to wonder I can post - but I don't quite post everything and there's a reason...

Anyway, for now: I'd asked my husband if 2017 meant anything. He said no. Well, I believe him because it's a relief NOT to know. Well the darn thing came back. 2017.

"So nothing significant happens in 2017?" He's like, "No it's not even an election year."

That gave me a pause in my tracks. "What about 2016?" He's like, "That's an election year."

"So, 2017 IS significant, because it will be the year after an election."

Personally? I haven't found anyone worth voting for. So, "2017 is significant in some respect, yes?"

He said, "Well, yes I suppose."

So, what I have right now is "Trigger-Commercializing" B.S. basically.

What I mean by that is, they (meaning) politics - they really don't know which way to go, so they're just putting any and everything out there and see what sticks.

Some people might feel that's real. It's not. That's what I can offer. What is real is, for the time, real people!

Honestly? The mass of the people know most of this stuff is a show/sham. They just do. So, bank on the intellect of the people.

And if you're so afraid you have to be and do something that goes against your Soul - well...that battery dies out eventually.

I see a callapse of some sort, but it's going to come in the form of, to me any way, what I would call a, "Micro-managing-Umbrella."

So the people going to work, being forced to not only do their work but others whom have no drive, that, and the economy and the market will reflect these things.

It's not a dire issue, to me anyway. It's hard to explain. But, there's a back-up developing. A supportive networking of real people. A hand you can grasp...one without ego.

On the other side is a faltering tatter. One based of fear and PC correctness. That's going to be a thing of the past.

Actually, it already is.

What about this year????

You know after last election, I wondered if it helps to write about things that feel to be coming. I still do...

But maybe with some filtering it could be productive. I left off with Obama, last election. I don't feel people understood where that was leading or why it was so important and NOT for the reasons you may have felt going into it. First black president...nope. That wasn't it. It was to move the masses in a certain direction!

See this stuff goes in phases unless you actively slow it down.
I feel strongly, all of the social media ties into being deciphered as to what the public needs or feels they want to hear.

How's that relevant? Well, once upon a time, our leaders were actually on ground level. Meaning, not only did they run for office, but were required to have jobs amongst their constituents. You're hard pressed to find anything, even historically, lately, of what you have to choose from doing much more than being "different" or simply handed down due to favors and/or nepotism.

Aren't we all different though??? A real leader doesn't just go after one difference or another, or throw in what they think will shock the public next. They represent all, for the good and freedom of the people, like a breath of fresh air, with diligence, an honor, a belief that's deep rooted.


So divisively, if they can split votes, and the unthinkable happens, they get what they want. They can fudge here and there, but not all across the board without a revolt and complete chaos. So...they make it table-topic-conversation-savvy, where it could be believable while "moving forward." Understand, the entity you are voting for isn't about ONE individual. It's a machine.

A wonderful quote that keeps coming back to me has been said, "There are two types of people, Gods and insects." (it's from a show, but it keeps taking me back to the same scene?)

My theory... never underestimate the insect!

I am no psychic abilities but I do know that if Hillary Clinton is the democratic leader then whoever wins the republican leadership will win so I hope that the people who decide these things will soon wake up and elect Bernie Sanders!

Unless a republican president in the United States is what Earth needs to get rid of the human race then I want to spend these four years differently!

If I would be American I would hold my nose and vote for that fake lying witch because having her as a president is sure much better than all the crazies of the other party but it is evident that this will not happen with most of the Americans with a functioning brain so my fingers are crossed that she does not win so that we all on Earth do not suffer the consequences (what Bush and his goons did will have negative effects until we are all gone - i believe Trump or whoever else right now in that psychotic party could do worst)!

Being one of the many 'insects' in the country, what would you suggest us to do to prepare for the inevitable. The two candidates are looking like Trump and Clinton, and while I agree that Hillary is easy to beat, I don't see Trump as a better alternative.

They are both deeply flawed, and neither seem to share my values.