I thought it would be fun to share some favorite quotes with each other. This is one a friend sent to me this morning:

Life is an opportunity, benefit from it.
Life is a beauty, admire it.
Life is a dream, realize it.
Life is a challenge, meet it.
Life is a duty, complete it.
Life is a game, play it.
Life is a promise, fulfill it.
Life is sorrow, overcome it.
Life is a song, sing it.
Life is a struggle, accept it.
Life is a tragedy, confront it.
Life is an adventure, dare it.
Life is luck, make it.
Life is life, fight for it!

---Mother Teresa

Life is a struggle, accept it.

Thanks for this holly.

To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded."

-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The discipline of writing something down is the first step toward making it happen" Lee Iacocca

from the book--Goal Mapping-the practical workbook--How to Turn Your Dreams into Realities

That's a good one.

Here's another!

"When we allow our thoughts to take us out into larger fields of action, the outer conditions come up to our thoughts." Ernest Holmes

(I love collecting quotes!)

A true friend stabs in the front.

Oscar Wilde

Chance favours the prepared mind.
Louis Pasteur

Opportunity never knocks. Go out and search for it.

Better to be prepared and have no opportunity,
than to have opportunity and not be prepared.

"If you cannot find peace, Joy and Serenity where you are right now - then where else do you expect to find it?"

"There can be no lasting tranquility in our hearts if the things we believe in are different from the things we do."

"Weigh up with your logic and within your heart, the disadvantages of Anger, Hatred, Resentment and Fear, against the advantages of Peace, Love, Forgiveness and freedom.
Then choose."

Where did that come from, Alexandra?

The first is from one of the "Awakening" trilogy books, by Lama Surya Das.

The second is from a small compact book of Buddhist quotations, but there is no specific 'Author' to whom it is attributed.

The third was said to me by a fellow Shiatsu student, many years ago, although she made it clear she was quoting someone else, but again, I don't know whom.

I used to be a dog, but now i'm a cat.

I used to be a boy, but now i'm a girl.

I used to be good, but now i'm very good.

I used to be a daddy-long-legs.


-Asa Ony, age 7

That is funny.

You can see why it's stuck in my head for years. I was babysitting her one day and she asked me what a poem was and i gave her a very poor description and she ran off and then came back with that... and it's just so precious!

"It's kind of fun to do the impossible."
- Walt Disney (1901-1966)

An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
M.K. Gandhi


I am still determined to be cheerful and happy, in whatever situation I may be; for I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Martha Washington

The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind.
William James

Anger is never without Reason, but seldom with a good One.
Benjamin Franklin


It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required.
Sir Winston Churchill

"You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there."
- Yogi Berra

"He who hesitates is a damned fool."
- Mae West (1892-1980)

"Mind over Matter-as long as you don't mind, it'll never matter."
-Not the original meaning of it, but a good interpretation, I think!

"Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens." Jimi Hendrix

A successful man will build a firm foundation with the rocks others have thrown at him.

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be attained through understanding."
- Albert Einstein

"If you could kick in the [censored] the person MOST responsible for your problems.... you wouldn't be able to sit down for a week."

-unknown.

Holly, this unknown needs a big kick!

My personal Mantra, which I used to use as a signature, is:

"I am soooooooooo happy - How on EARTH could I be otherwise?"

Say it enough, and I'll be danged, it works!

Then I read a quotation by an eminent 19th Buddhist author, which I had previously been unaware of...
"There is nothing clever about NOT being happy."

So you see, it's nothing new, then......!

What happened to the blog?

What, mine?
I have finished with that.
Everything I needed to say has been said. What's passed is Past, and remains there. I no longer need to express, because it is no longer relevant.

Don't wait for the hearse to take you to church.

Unknown

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We are on this earth to be friends.

C.D.Mohatta

"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles."
--Doug Larson

This larson must have loved fishing.

"Problems are what you see when you take your eye off the goal."

--Alan. H. Cohen

Sometimes goal is the biggest problem in life.

C.D.Mohatta

Before we advice others, let us find out if we need any.
C.D.Mohatta

hhahahhaa... UH OH!!!! ...i'm in trouble then.


"A man becomes what he thinks about most of the time."
-Emerson

A man thinks of what he is most of the time.
He can not do otherwise.

C.D.Mohatta

I love Emerson. Here is another particularly good one he wrote:

Sow a thought and you reap an action; sow an act and you reap a habit; sow a habit and you reap a character; sow a character and you reap a destiny."

Yes. that is good.
Did you ask him about the type of soil for sowing?

ummmmmm? no, he's a little bit before my time! hahahahah

That is the problem with great philosophers.
they leave many things unsaid.

that gives me an idea- I leave many things unsaid, so I am a great philosopher!
Must go and tell my children right now.
hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahah

I think everyone should get points for leaving some things unsaid!!!

Quandry: If you tell your children that you're leaving things unsaid, does that cancel the not saying things???

And, can i just skip to telling people i'm leaving things unsaid without having to bother thinking them up in the first place?

I was going to tell my children that I am a great philosopher!

But you are a good student of logic. Great brains.

my favorite:

SUCCESS

To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded.

--Ralph Waldo Emerson

This is good.

This is originally in Hindi.
Let me translate-

You will find many people to advice you without any price.

Hahahahaha. Isn't that the truth!

Yes. that is the truth.
ask a question in any gathering and n no. of people will come forward to advice!

Here's one i try to remind myself when i catch myself hesitating:

"People who do things make mistakes, but they never make the biggest mistake of all, and that is doing nothing."
----Ben Franklyn

How about the book now?

the one of quotations you suggested, or the other one?

You can begin with the other one. Let every chapter begin with a quotation.
Good Luck.

Can you begin tomorrow or on Thursday?

Whatever you put Energy in to, will grow.

Walk the path of truth against all the odds.
If you fear truth, you are not living life rightly.

Kabir said-

Read as many books as you want, you will never become learned.
Read two and half words of love and you will become learned.

No more gumbling or sulking,
Or hating my state,
No more moaning and letting my troubles confound me -
But laughing, and loving the friends all around me;
And soon, I shall find - If I really keep trying -
I have enough blessings to keep me from crying.

This is from some work of fiction i've read more than once i think, but can't at the moment place:

Tired is stupid.

This one from Nancy Regan (although I don't know if she originated it - !!)

A woman is like a tea-bag - you never know how strong she can be until she gets into hot water.

Chaos in the midst of chaos isn't funny, but chaos in the midst of order is.

Steve Martin

"The Past is OVER. Forgiveness means giving up all hope of a Better past".

C. Jung

I like that one from Nancy Reagan a lot, Alexandra! I think i'll put that in my quote book.

cd, what does that quote by Steve Martin make you think of?

Okay... here is mine for the day:

If you are never scared or embarrassed or hurt, it means you never take any chances.
----Julia Sorel

little disorder in midst of order is funny. That is said by Martin. Yes, that is very true.

"The Truth awaits for eyes unclouded by Longing."

The Tao Te Ching

"I would be banging pillows, thinking I needed eight hours
of sleep. It bothered me for a long time until I found a
doctor who told me to find something I liked to do and consider
it a blessing. I like football."
-Jon Gruden (Head Coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Life is Love.

Some of these are very good! I must make note of them.
I will try to find something suitable, to add.

Nice thread!

Blessed is he who expects nothing for he shall never be disappointed.

Alexander Pope

Erma Bombeck:
Laughter rises out of tragedy, when you need it the most, and rewards you for your courage.



Friedrich Nietzsche:
And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.



G. K. Chesterton:
Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly; devils fall because of their gravity.



James Thurber:
Humor is a serious thing. I like to think of it as one of our greatest earliest natural resources, which must be preserved at all cost.



Joel Goodman:
Humor is a universal language.



Mark Twain:
The secret source of humour itself is not joy, but sorrow. There is no humour in heaven.

William James:
�Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.�


Hugh Sidey:
�A sense of humor... is needed armor. Joy in one's heart and some laughter on one's lips is a sign that the person down deep has a pretty good grasp of life.�


Billy Graham:
�A keen sense of humor helps us to overlook the unbecoming, understand the unconventional, tolerate the unpleasant, overcome the unexpected, and outlast the unbearable�


Frank A. Clark:
�I think the next best thing to solving a problem is finding some humor in it.�


Jessamyn West:
�A taste for irony has kept more hearts from breaking than a sense of humor for it takes irony to appreciate the joke which is on oneself�


E.B.White:
�Whatever else an American believes or disbelieves about himself, he is absolutely sure he has a sense of humor�

Holly, you seem to be full of humor!

Which ones did you like best? ...of all the quotes, not just on humor.

G. K. Chesterton:
Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly; devils fall because of their gravity.

I liked, "Life is love."

"What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?"

--Dr. Robert Shuller

If you knew you could not fail, then it wouldn't be an 'attempt'. surely. You only attempt something if there is uncertainty. if there is certainty, you just 'Do'.

"A native American grandfather was talking to his grandson about how he felt. He said:
'I feel as if I have two wolves fighting in my heart. One wolf is the vengeful, angry, violent one. The other wolf is the loving, compassionate one.'
The grandson asked him:
'Which wolf will win the fight in your heart?'
The grandfather answered:
'The one I feed.'

Holly, I am passionate about few things. I am always thinking of them.

Shared joy is a double joy; shared sorrow is half a sorrow. ~Swedish Proverb

"he who deliberates fully before taking each step will spend his entire life on one leg".

hhahhaha... that's a good one, MettaMaid. I'm afraid i'm a one-legger!

I'll see if i can do something about that.

"A nation is great when old men plant trees under whose shade they will never rest."

-Turkish proverb

let us all plant trees....!!

Yes, i like that one. It stuck in my head from long ago. It reminds me of the native american belief about making decisions according to how it will impact the seventh generation... how does that go? Give me a sec and i'll look it up....

hmmm... not what i expected:

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When the only tool you have is a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail.

Abraham Maslow

If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.

Abraham Sutzkever

We are told never to cross a bridge until we come to it, but this world is owned by men who have 'crossed bridges' in their imagination far ahead of the crowd.

Anonymous

Oh i LIKE those!!!

"If you ever get a second chance at life, you've got to go
all the way."
- Lance Armstrong

Buck Williams

It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most

hahaha Good one.

Here is one that came to mind while reading another thread. Woody Guthrie was an icon of American folk music, and wrote "This Land is Your Land" among other well known songs. Pete Seeger, another famous musician, said this of Woody Guthrie and his talent:

"Any damned fool can get complicated. It takes a genius to attain simplicity!"

Yes. That's very true. In this lies the solution to our life problems.
We think of so many solutions when the solutions are simple and right in front of us.
Instead of talking about them repeatedly, we need to act and get through.

God has blessed you with immense talent. It is time for you to act.

I am taking little steps, even as i talk and talk and talk,

Sometimes i go so slowly i can't even see my progress. So while i do what i can, i talk and listen in hope that i will learn how to speed up the process.

These days i am trying to choose 3 actions each day to do. I want to learn how to count on myself to do what i set out to do. Today i only got done one of the three things, but i did get done one of them, and tomorrow i will try again with 3 things, and the day after that, and the day after that, until i can do the 3 things each day that i have decided to do.

That is great.

how about your BA?

Yes, i need to do something about that!!!!

When are you joining?

You are posting faster than i can post... is this a race, genius?

No genius. i am here only because of you.

it would be a good step for me to jump into it. i need change, and i have been hesitating. i also, though, have other things i must address as well, like income. Tomorrow i will make one of my three things to to think on this and decide what the first step will be.

BA will add to your income?
But it will also cost.
Make proper judgment.

The eskimos had fifty-two names for snow because it was important to them: there ought to be as many for love.

Margaret Atwood.

Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.

Leo Buscaglia

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Those are wonderful.

It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.

---Seneca

Yes. We must dare.
Think of yourself as somebody nothing can defeat.

yes, i am a bit unsinkable.

but can i thrive? that is the question.

You can thrive. You are already doing it in many ways.
Find more ways to shine.

Its a lot easier to shine when you're just happy.

Let us not again begin a thread about happiness.
Alexandra would get very angry!

HAHAHAHAHHAAHA

i am a woman obsessed. hahaha

I have a many-tracked mind... no, no! REALLY. It's just that I'm a lot like FedEx... all the planes go to the same destination.

It's a blessing that you have a many tracked mind. very few have that.

It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is most important is invisible to the eye."

-----From "The Little Prince"

Heart is governed by emotions. Can we see rightly with emotions?

Ah... "The Little Prince" was a story, an allegory, originally, "Le Petit Prince" by Saint-Exup�ry. The quote wasn't refering to seeing things with emotions in the way that you are thinking. It's about things like truth and love.

"This thing called life is so simple, I find that i have to 'complex it up' to explain it to people."

---Dr. Earnest Holmes

Holly, most of us who are governed by heart suffer, but we also enjoy life more.

That is good to hear.



One of the most tragic things i know about human nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon, instead of enjoying the roses that are blooming outside our windows today.

---Dale Carnegie

True.

Most of our obstacles would melt away if, instead of cowering before them, we should make up our minds to walk boldly through them.

Abraham Maslow

Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.

---Mark Twain

Courage is not even mastery of fear. Courage is the readiness to battle the fear.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

---Margaret Mead

Agree.

"There is no need to continue struggling - Just let go of your opinions".

"Never criticize or judge another person until you have walked a mile in their shoes"

(can't recall who said that, but I like it!)

AF.

We can get plenty of advisers for free.
they know everything but their own life is a big mess.

half of our life is spent on bed.
have someone to enjoy!

You wrote this?

"'T is always the plumber who has the leaky tap...."!

I want a plumber because I keep leaking downstairs .

Yes. I suppose if you DO have water on the knee, a tap on the head would be the best remedy.

To calm the frenetic bustle of your Life, you must first calm the frenetic bustle of your Mind.

hahaha, Manjari, you're so funny!!

I'm afraid for some reason, I am unable to read Manjari's contribution.
But let's not forget we have a jokes thread elsewhere, once known as the 'Genius Club' thread... all "funnies" then, presumably, should be confined to there....?

Alexandra,

you better delete this from your signature.

"Hatred never ceases through hatred, but by love alone. This is the ancient and eternal law."

The difficulty about a gentlemen's agreement is that it depends on the continued existence of the gentlemen
- Payne, Reginald Withers

Beauty is unbearable, drives us to despair, offering us for a minute the glimpse of an eternity that we should like to stretch out over the whole of time.
- Camus, Albert

Champagne is the only wine a woman can drink and still remain beautiful.
- de Pompadour, Madame

The unforgivable crime is soft hitting. Do not hit at all if it can be avoided; but never hit softly.
- Roosevelt, Theodore

Hypocrites are bad.

Oh, why is that Manjari? Please tell me where in my comments exactly, I have demonstarted anything remotely connected to 'Hatred'?
Why is it that I am unable to make any comment on these boards, without someone retaliating with criticism or unkindness? Why can I not expect a kind, friendly and constructive engagement, instead of meeting with a wall of hostility?
Just what is it you all want? And why?

When you make the sacrifice in marriage, you're sacrificing not to each other but to unity in a relationship.
- Campbell, Joseph

Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.
- Mittleman, Matthew

Misery loves company.
- Ray, John

The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.
- Chesterton, G.K.

Love lives on hope, and dies when hope is dead; It is a flame which sinks for lack of fuel.
- Corneille, Pierre

Gravity is not responsible for people falling in love.
- Einstein, Albert

Love won't be tampered with, love won't go away. Push it to one side and it creeps to the other.
- Erdrich, Louise

We must select the illusion which appeals to our temperament, and embrace it with passion, if we want to be happy.
- Connolly, Cyril

You are forgiven for your happiness and your successes only if you generously consent to share them.
- Camus, Albert

No man can be happy without a friend, nor be sure of his friend till he is unhappy.
- Fuller, Thomas

I can sympathise with people's pains, but not with their pleasures. There is something curiously boring about somebody else's happiness.
- Huxley, Aldous

No matter how dull, or how mean, or how wise a man is, he feels that happiness is his indisputable right.
- Keller, Helen

It is better to be happy for a momen tand be burned up with beauty than to live a long time and be bored all the while.
- Marquis, Don

When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $3.95 a minute. ~ Author Unknown

My reaction to porn films is as follows: After the first ten minutes, I want to go home and screw. After the first 20 minutes, I never want to screw again as long as I live. ~ Erica Jong

Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love. ~ Butch Hancock

# Men get laid, but women get screwed. ~ Quentin Crisp

Sex is emotion in motion. ~ Mae West

Thanks for the last one, Manjari.
Would it interest you to know that you have made me unhappy?
Or can I not count upon you as a friend?

The very fact of its finding itself in agreement with other minds perturbs it, so that it hunts for points of divergence, feeling the urgent need to make it clear that at least it reached the same conclusions by a different route.
- Butterfield, Herbert

Life is tough. To have members who perceive imaginary enmity and create an argument makes it more so. I would rather leave this forum if I feel more uncomfortable. I have no energy to fight. I am very tired and lonely and come here to share happiness.

I am feeling very disturbed.First Alexandra said- why not create another thread for jokes and now she says why post jokes. I will not post any more jokes to laugh.

Let her have her way. I am giving way not out of cowardice but tiredness.

I am quitting this forum and will never return till people like Alexandra are here. She wants to force her friendship and wants me to praise her. I can not do that.

I must thank Barbara, Holly, Sue, Trish, Manjari, Das, Tami and other members here with who I shared excellent rapport. I know that I need this forum. But I am getting miserable.

Pratibha, I feel sad about your leaving. Don't be a quitter. But I understand your point of view also.

Bye pratibha,

I am very sad and feel very depressed because of your leaving. I know that you may not even read this. But I will surely be missing your happy chatter.

This is neither accurate nor kind. I am willing and wanting to be a good friend to all. How on earth can i force this, when nobody will speak to me? Why should i be looking for praise, when none is necessarily due? Do I not have the right to understanding and friendship? Why do you do this? I have done nothing to deserve this unkindness, and rather than engage with me and try to sort things out, you react like this?

WHY WILL NOBODY TELL ME JUST EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT I AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE - !!??

Bye bye Pratibha. if you wish to make this decision, it is yours and yours alone. I am truly sorry you feel you must do this, but that's your choice. As for me, I am not going anywhere.

Pratibha,

I feel sorry for you.
You are a brave girl and you have suffered a lot bravely in your life. I will be feeling lonelier without your presence.

Bye, Prathibha. I will miss you. I wish you would reconsider, though. You have good input. Don't let alexandra have power over our friendships.

I will still look for you everytime I sign on to Bella. Please remember that you can come here when YOU need to and WE ALL will be here.

Prathibha, this might help, too... The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend.
Abraham Lincoln



Alexandria, you should remember this when wanting us to be your friend.... Wishing to be friends is quick work, but friendship is a slow-ripening fruit.
Aristotle

The language of friendship is not words but meanings.
Henry David Thoreau

You always say you wish someone would tell you why nobody seems friendly to you... You just can't jump in the middle of friends and MAKE them your friends. Your original posts, many months ago used words and meanings to slam many people and their illnesses. Stop and reflect on that and quit acting as though you don't understand why it is hard for people to trust you. and want your friendship.



Pratibha, please think on this some more. Friendship doubles our joy and divides our grief.
Swedish proverb


Trish

Pratibha,

Please don't leave!!!

I wish i had seen your post earlier but i had overlooked this thread.

Please don't let someone else determine your leaving. There is another way you can handle it: If someone's presence bothers you, just ignore them. This goes for all of us because on the internet, prob. sooner or later someone's presence will bother you. But they can't bother you if you don't read their posts.

I would hate to lose your aquaintance because of someone else, and your presence here! Your posts lift me up and you often share things i find wise and intelligent.

I hope you see this. I hate it when i don't at least get a chance to say goodbye.

much love,
~holly

Isn't it amazing...

I have asked on several occasions for Pratibha and others to try to point out where I have gone wrong.
I have to say, I challenge anyone to find anything I have written that is rude, insulting, defamatory, unkind or hurtful.

When I stated I was leaving the forum, there was no such farewell for me, but if you once again, examine different threads and posts, you may find that it is I, who have been subject to unkindness, distancing and hurtful remarks.

But that's ok, it appears.
Either I don't have feelings, or obviously, the feelings of others count for more than mine.

PLus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Holly and Trish, I will call up Pratibha and convey your feelings. I am sure she will reconsider. It all began because Alexandra first asked all of us to begin another thread on jokes. Pratibha said that she was converting Genius Club thread to jokes thread. She accepted what Alexandra said.

But after few days Alexandra went to Buddhist forum and rewrote her objections about jokes and said we should never post them. that was a change in posture.

Pratibha had come here to talk to friends because she is very lonely and needs a man in her life. She was trying to get some fun here. But she felt that Alexandra was creating wrong impressions about her as if Pratibha was a sex manic or so. That hurt her badly.

But Pratibha loves Trish and Holly greatly. She will come back. I will speak to her.

I think Trish has answered very well to Alexandra's query. I quote Trish-


Alexandria, you should remember this when wanting us to be your friend.... Wishing to be friends is quick work, but friendship is a slow-ripening fruit.
Aristotle

The language of friendship is not words but meanings.
Henry David Thoreau

You always say you wish someone would tell you why nobody seems friendly to you... You just can't jump in the middle of friends and MAKE them your friends. Your original posts, many months ago used words and meanings to slam many people and their illnesses. Stop and reflect on that and quit acting as though you don't understand why it is hard for people to trust you. and want your friendship.

Let us come back to the topic of quotes. Trish is very quick in quotes that are relevant.

Here is one-

A man is called selfish, not for pursuing his own good, but for neglecting the neighbor's.
- Whately, Richard

There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy.

- Dante

Theres nothing terribly wrong with feeling lost, so long as that feeling precedes some plan on your part to actually do something about it. Too often a person grows complacent with their disillusionment, perpetually wearing their "discomfort" like a favorite shirt.

- Jhonen Vasquez

Alexandra, please bury the past and move ahead. Accept your mistakes and forgive others for theirs.

I assure you that everybody here is looking for making a positive difference in others' lives.

How can I do that for you?

You could start by being friendly to people outside the click. Being friendly does not mean you have to be actual friends. I have heard claim that Alexandra was abusive to CD, warranting the treatment she has been receiving, but I can't find evidence of this. However, this is not the first time I've had to step in on behalf of Alexandra. This latest attack comes from her stating the jokes in another thread were getting out of hand and they were. The sexual nature of the jokes was stepping outside the rules. You would be wise to take your own advice. Bury the hatchet and move on. I'm tired of this interferring with my right to enjoy Bella. If it is a legitimate complaint, take it to the forum moderator or the webmaster as the rules state. Otherwise, start giving Alexandra the respect she deserves as a human being and a Bella member. Like you said, get over it!

Sue, please bury this and move on in life. Good luck.

Sue, I have found most of your posts very intelligent. You can help all of us bury this. Mistakes were done by Alexandra and I agree with Trish about that. Pratibha left the forum because of all this. Pl. be of help. I request. We are all friends.

Not until everyone is treated with respect and welcomed. You had no problem putting your two cents in. Why didn't you bury it and move on before following Alexandra to the Buddhist forum? I don't appreciate having to defend someone I don't even know, but I've never been one to sit quiet while a whole group picks on one person.

First of all, Alexandra is not the only one to have made mistakes. I, personally, do not know what she is accused of and have found nothing going back and reading posts. I did find more than once, people intentionally be rude to her. Secondly, nobody can make another person do anything they choose not to do. Pratibha left because she chose to leave. Personally, I wish she hadn't and don't understand why she did. And now, thirdly, let's get back on topic.........

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"-The Golden Rule.

To kill the whole issue I have asked Pratibha to return and following Holly's suggestion ignore those who are not at the same wave length.

Friends, this word is made of people of high and low integrity both. I would leave people of low integrity alone because one day they will surely reap what they sow.

I am not the judge. But I have the freedom to choose. The ultimate judge is none other than almighty. Sometimes I am reminded of my actions which might have badly hurt somebody else and I get sleepless nights repenting.

I love my friends here- Trish, manjari, Das, Tami, Pratibha, Jeanette, Erika, Barbara and all others. Can we all move forward and make life a joy for everyone.

I have told Pratibha to come back and post only those jokes that are fit for kids so that all egos are satisfied.

This whole issue reminds me of Agatha Christie's last book- The Curtains.

Das, Manjari and Pratibha have left this forum.

hmm. I've read most of hers (Agatha Christie). I don't remember that one, though.

I was telling sexy jokes too, and I am not going to promise not to tell more. It was just that one thread.

This isn't the situation here, but i want to bring up the subject of trolls. Trolls are people on the internet (often angry young teens) who are vicious and harass others and often make racist or abusive remarks. They turn up periodically on just about all websites, so it's important to know how to appropriately deal with them. Trolls will say anything for attention. They enjoy negative attention and getting other people upset and angry and fighting. The best way to deal with trolls is to totally IGNORE them. Because they seek attention and control of situations you cannot reason with them and arguing only encourages them to continue. Leaving lets them win. Sometimes you'll see someone post, "don't feed the trolls." This is a signal that you should not engage with someone who gets joy out of the unhappiness of others and arguing. Ignoring bad behavior is actually a very powerful tool.

I can't bring this subject up really, when there is a troll about, that is why i'm bringing it up now.

Amazingly, when I looked up Agatha Cristie's writings to check out Curtains, I found that there were 4602 titles. The plot description is A Hercule Poirot Mystery where the best friend couldn't tell him WHO he thought was the murderer.

Our "troll" is like that, I think, in that we all KNOW who we believe it is, but we won't tell it OUTLOUD, right CDM? I love the way you say how to handle it, Holly: don't feed the trolls. I am not so sure that out troll is an angry young TEEN, although the other descriptions are right on target!!

CDM, I totally agree with you! I hope that our friendship club can remain intact and learn to IGNORE (as you said, Holly) the impulse to engage in conversations that someone who "gets their joy from the unhappiness of others" by arguing and harassing. Sure hope the others come back. We all know that the abusive remarks that we see and hear about each other are not true, so we don't need to try to justify them and give the troll something else to comment on.

Have a wonderful day and weekend!

Your friend, Trish

"It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Have no friends not equal to yourself."
- Confucious (551 - 497 BC) Chinese philosopher.

Trish

But Trish,

I don't feel we have a troll. I said that twice because i do not wish to be misunderstood.

No one gets along with everyone, that's a fact of life. And everyone says things sometimes that offends or is said in anger... i know i have. Some people are more mature or kind than others.

Not everyone disagreeable to us is a troll!

Trolls are a special category. They are angry and bitter MOST of the time. This also goes with being a teen sometimes, and more often a male than a female, though on rare occassion, females can be trolls too. Trolls will especially pick on the weak. They will attack when someone opens up a personal subject. They are verbally abusive. They are usually racist or nationalist in some manner and offensive in that way. Their abuse often includes sexual vulgarities and heavy obscenity. It is hard to believe they are often children because of the foul things that come out of their mouths, but we know most trolls are school age because troll activity increases sharply after school hours and during school holidays!!! Summer especially, is the season for trolls.

I don't see anyone doing that kind of thing here on this forum at present... at least in public.

But how to deal with trolls is also useful in dealing with people online we don't get along with. That's what made me think of it at this time, and as i said, it isn't appropriate to talk much about trolls while they are present. If i believed we had a real troll, i would not have posted this, because that would feed the ego of a troll and encourage them to stick around.

Most trolls i have seen are obsessive-compulsive. They read EVERYTHING on a particular forum and may spend upwards of 8 hours a day on it. I've seen them spend close to 20 hours a day! They are usually very technologically saavy.

I have learned to watch new posters and be cautious with posters who do not give any details of their lives, except perhaps in false and obviously exaggerated boasts. Trolls won't give details of their lives for several reasons: 1)they have an extreme inferiority complex they are trying to hide, 2)they are going to be vicious and when they are they don't want people to be able to reach their vulnerabilities, and 3)they have probably already been banned for bad behavior before and have the habit of coming back under new and false identities, 4) they frequently sign in under several identities in one forum to give the false impression of others agreeing with them and having allies.

Yes, Holly, I understand but I also think a person who looks forward to certain people posting then posts unkind, argumentative things just to be part of the conversation, can ALSO be trolls. Don't you think we have some like that here? A person changing his/her identity will not make them a different person because they will still act, feel and write like they did before. I agreed that we should treat them the same way.

Here are a couple of good quotes. Emerson has some very thoughtful quotes!


"A friend is a person with whom I may be sincere. Before him I may think aloud."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The only reward of virtue is virtue; the only way to have a friend is to be one."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson


Trish

I see your point and agree.

And i love the quotes of course, because i like Emerson so much.

CD was quoting Thorou... dang! my spelling just went out, LOL! Sometimes i can spell, sometimes i can't... brain freeze! haha

Anyway Emerson and whats-his-name were close friends, so there is some overlap. Th. though, i think was less consistent.

You know who i want to read and am not to familiar with but always like his quotes? John Muir:

The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
John Muir

God has cared for these trees, saved them from drought, disease, avalanches, and a thousand tempests and floods. But he cannot save them from fools.
John Muir

Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountain is going home; that wildness is necessity; that mountain parks and reservations are useful not only as fountains of timber and irrigating rivers, but as fountains of life.
John Muir

I never saw a discontented tree. They grip the ground as though they liked it, and though fast rooted they travel about as far as we do.
John Muir

John Muir sounds like a naturalist/environmentalist, doesn't he? I think that I shall never see a poem as lovely as a tree. Who was that? Robert Frost? Another lover of nature, kinda like us.

"Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company."
- George Washington (1732 - 1799) US Statesman.

"Should auld aquaintance be forgot, And never brought to min'?"
- Robert Burns (1759 - 1796) Scottish poet. ~~~~~ I didn't know this was by Burns, did you? ~~~~~

"It is not so much our friends' help that helps us as the confident knowledge that they will help us."
- Epicurus (341 - 270 BC) Greek philosopher.

"Friends have all things in common."
- Plato

"To like and dislike the same things, that is indeed true friendship."
- Sallust (86 - 334 BC) Roman historian

"One loyal friend is worth ten thousand relatives."
- Euripides, Greek playwrite

"Fate chooses your relations, you choose your friends."
- Jacques Delille (1738 - 1813) French poet. ~~~~~ I've seen this on magnets; my girlfriend gave me one a few years ago. I sure didn't know it was by a french poet. ~~~~~


Now, the final one will be:

"The most I can do for my friend is simply to be his friend. I have no wealth to bestow on him. If he knows that I am happy in loving him, he will want no other reward. Is not friendship divine in this?"
- Henry David Thoreau

~~~~~ It is fun to look at these quotes and think about the people who said them. Great philosophers, presidents, poets and writers... amazing when you think how they all felt about friends and friendships. ~~~~~

Trish

Yes, it is.

Actually, being a Scotland-buff, i did know it was Rabbie Burns, but i remember being surprised when i learned.

I know if you like England you're an Anglophile, but what are you when you like Scotland? A Caladoniaphile? ... or just plumb crazy?

Lets see if i can think of some more good quotes, hmmm.

One of the most tragic things I know about human nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon, instead of enjoying the roses that are blooming outside our windows today.
----Dale Carnegie

Dale Carnegie made me think of the guy from Oklahoma. I don't know why either, but then I couldn't remember his name and had to look up the OKC state fair grounds name (which I thought was named after him, but it is actually the AIRPORT with his name). I was thinking of Will Rogers because he had ALOT to say back then. Anyway, when I looked him up, I found some neat quotes that he had made famous. (I can't think of quotes, but I can sure look them up!)

Everything is funny as long as it is happening to Somebody Else.
Will Rogers, Illiterate Digest (1924), "Warning to Jokers: lay off the prince"

Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time we have rushed through life trying to save.
Will Rogers, New York TImes, Apr. 29, 1930 ***** Isn't that true?! ***** :

I bet you if I had met him [Trotsky] and had a chat with him, I would have found him a very interesting and human fellow, FOR I NEVER YET MET A MAN THAT I DIDN'T LIKE. Will Rogers, Saturday Evening Post, Nov. 6, 1926 ******* I didn't know HE said this. *********






Doesn't that make you think of autumn, with Sunday being the first day? Take care of yourself, Holly! Hope your evening is good and that you sleep peacefully.

Your friend, Trish

Thank you, Trish.

Yes it does make me think of autumn, and i heard some Canada Geese today.

after reading this thread and some of the other post to and about and from some of the others I am not sure I want to post here anymore ge I may [censored] off the good and self rightous folks!!! Did everyone go back to kindergarden or may be high school where they had B!TC# week " hey Yall Lets pick on so and so I dont like here make up some stupid reason and everyone throws out there brain and follows!!!

funny we had trolls stay longer and come back time after time and they said horrable things just to [censored] people off but gee disagree with some one and bame Im leaving!!

Grow up....

thats the last of my rant and all I have to say about it!

Freebubbles, where is your favorite quote? Somehow I missed it while you were babbling about picking on people. It's really better not to pick on someone because of some stupid reason, like you said. What we ALL are doing here is adding some of our favorite (or famous) quotes that we might not have known where they came from, like:
"Should auld aquaintance be forgot, And never brought to min'?" - Robert Burns (1759 - 1796) Scottish poet.

Did you know that the New Year's Eve song came from a Rorbert Burns quote? I didn't. We started quoting famous people on friendship and now we have moved to nature. Come on and join us... anybody can add good quotes. It's fun and educational.

"The only reward of virtue is virtue; the only way to have a friend is to be one."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

One of the most tragic things I know about human nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon, instead of enjoying the roses that are blooming outside our windows today.
----Dale Carnegie

Trish

thats the end of my rant and all I have to say about it....unknown

better to be thought a fool then to open your moth and remove all doubt.....Abe Lincoin...I think

still waters run deep....unknown

shallow waters make for easy fishing...unknown

Oceans of water are like emotions...If your not careful you get swepted a way.... Viking Proverb...I think matter of fact I think the others are too...

God writes the gospel not in the Bible alone, but on trees and flowers and clouds and stars. ~Martin Luther

Yea!!! I found it! I found it! "I think that I shall never see, a poem as lovely as a tree" author is Joyce Kilmer!! Yea! (Freebubbles, I liked your quotes! Especially the one by Martin Luther!)

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
~~~~ Joyce Kilmer

Trish

Beautiful!
Trish, you are great as always.

"It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Well said.

Curtains-

This was the only story when Poirot himself commits a murderer.

The murderer was a very smart man. He never committed any crime himself but looked for situations when there was dispute amongst others. He used to then incite one to murder other. He used to do that very innocently and no body could see through the game. Christie at her best.

Poiroit found no other way to stop this other than killing the man and dying himself also. Read this.

"A friend is a person with whom I may be sincere. Before him I may think aloud."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

great quote.

still waters run deep....unknown

freebubbles, a lovely quote.

A good friend will be there to bail you out of jail but a best friend will be sitting in the cell with you saying Man we goofed big but man we sure had fun!!!.... another unknown


What you hate and despise the most in others is the exact same thing you hate and despise with in yourself!....Elizabeth browning?

And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years....Abe Lincoln

Life is rather like a tin of sardines - we're all of us looking for the key. Alan burnett

If we could see the miracle of a single flower clearly, our whole life would change. Buddha?

Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing....Helen Keller?

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert frost

Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time we have rushed through life trying to save. Will Rogers

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein

Life is rather like a tin of sardines - we're all of us looking for the key. Alan burnett.

Good quote freebubbles.

By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and Third by experience, which is the bitterest.

Confucius

an apple a day help keep the doctor a way....make mine Carmal covered!!!.....Rudy hukstable or Michille Taner? i think!!

A mosquito can keep you awaker than a guilty conscience.

---Mark Twain

Life is made of seconds.

The greatest thing by far is to be a master of metaphor. It is the one thing that cannot be learned from others. It is also a sign of genius, since a good metaphor implies an eye for resemblance.

---Aristotle

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

A wise person once told me that I should never hate.. for to truly hate something is to deny it's exsistence and therefore deny us a chance to learn from our strong emotions whether they be good or bad. ~me

I do not dwell on the past, but learn from it and move forward. ~me

I can sometimes say some wise things that I try to remember. My friends call them Jase-isms.

Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.

---Plato

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LOL!!!

Fools faces alway wind up in public places.... my mom on poloticians!

We are all born originals. Why is it so many of us die copies?
- Edward Young

He was so learned that he could name a horse in nine languages; so ignorant that he bought a cow to ride on.
- Benjamin Franklin

There are three kinds of people in the world... those who watch things happen...those who make things happen and those who wonder what the hell just happened.....my key chain!

Who's line is it anyway? Drew Carry

The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quiet, alone with the heavens, nature and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature.
Anne Frank
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All my life through, the new sights of Nature made me rejoice like a child.
Marie Curie
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"May we be free of torture, may there be peace in hearts and minds as our kindness spreads around the world." -- Buddhist monks revolt against military junta in Burma.
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Trish

Those are very funny, CD! And i love the pictures.

I'd never heard that one by Benjamin Franklyn... i want to memorize it.

Everyone is coming up with such great quotes!

God gave us two ears and one mouth so that we would listen twice as much as we speak.

---unknown.

Funny.

LOL!!!

...And you need to kiss my [censored]! Captian Cregin on Law and Order SVU

I love that show!!!

in order to be irreplaceable one must always be different! have no idea

�What if a demon were to creep after you one night, in your loneliest loneliness, and say, 'This life which you live must be lived by you once again and innumerable times more; and every pain and joy and thought and sigh must come again to you, all in the same sequence. The eternal hourglass will again and again be turned and you with it, dust of the dust!' Would you throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse that demon? Or would you answer, 'Never have I heard anything more divine'?�

---Friedrich Nietzsche

Snap!! Can we kill that demon before we get cursed?

�Love is something far more than desire for sexual intercourse; it is the principal means of escape from the loneliness which afflicts most men and women throughout the greater part of their lives.�

---Bertrand Russell

�What makes loneliness an anguish is not that I have no one to share my burden, but this: I have only my own burden to bear.�

---Dag Hammarskjold

I like that one.

"May there always be work for your hands to do, may your purse always hold a coin or two. May the sun always shine on your windowpane, may a rainbow be certain to follow each rain. May the hand of a friend always be near you, may God fill your heart with gladness to cheer you."
- Irish Blessing

"A cheerful friend is like asunny day spreading brightness all around."
- John Lubcock ( English Astronomer )

"THERE ARE MANY TYPES OF SHIPS. THERE ARE WOODEN SHIPS ,PLASTIC SHIPS, AND METAL SHIPS. BUT THE BEST AND MOST IMPORTAINT TYPES OF SHIPS ARE FRIENDSHIPS."
- OLD IRISH QUOTE (SENT BY -ROBERT J. BADAR JR.)

"The only unsinkable ship is FRIENDSHIP."
-Sent in by Jeff Sczpanski

" A friend is one to whom one may pour out all the contents of one's heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will take and sift it, keep what is worth keeping and with a breath of kindness blow the rest away."
- Arabian Proverb

�Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the space between the notes and curl my back to loneliness.�

---Maya Angelou (American poet)

The death of a friend is equivalent to the loss of a limb."
- German Proverb

"Life without a friend is like death without a witness."
- Spanish Proverb

"The best mirror is an old friend."

You're already a basturd you might as well be an enlightened one.....Simon Birch..

I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!!!!

all of you are posting some great quotes.
Here is one-

We forgive others so that they, in turn, will forgive us.

---unknown.

he who thinks he know it all, has yet to ask all the questions!

When I was a child I looked and acted like a child, now I am grow and nothing has changed. -Emannual Luise? ah Webster

When I was a child, I was very young ~Popeye

LOL!!!

Help comes to those who help themselves. unknown?

Give a hand up not a hand out. unknown?

You can tell a mans health by what he takes two of Pills or two stairs. I forgot sorry

beauty is like water it evaperates quickly! unknown

If you have never failed at anything you have ever tried, you are either God or you have never tried anything! unknown

In God we Trust. All others must pay CA$H! unknown

a husband is a man that takes out the trash and give the impression he just deep cleaned the house! unknown

A wife is a woman who spends a mans whole check and acts like she spent $10!!!

Life is like chocholate; Looks like $#!T but sweet all the same! unknown

love makes the world go round but hate controls the population! unknown

Unknown and Anyomus must be talented people they sure do alot of things and they must be really old too!!! also unknown

"Sadness is when you perceive a door has been slammed in your face.
Happiness, is when you realise....


...There's no lock."

Me.

I have just been made redundant, with immediate effect, but rather than viewing it as the end of something worthwhile, I am choosing to view it more as an opportunity to explore new frontiers with delight, wonder and promise.

I may only be able to look in sporadically for a while, but always smiling, never down, and with great and positive expectations of delightful things to come.

"That the birds of Fear and Suffering fly around your head, this you cannot stop.
But that they take up residence, and build a nest in your hair - this you can prevent."

Lao Tzu

�Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness: kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile.�

---Mother Theresa

This isn't erxactly a quotation, but the message is a good one, and it made me smile....

"The British Government, politicians and officials, I can handle. They are really quite an affable group, they don't bother me....
The people of India are a little more stubborn and set in their ways - they're more of a challenge -
But this Mohandras K Gandhi fellow - now, he's really difficult. I find he is the most hard-headed, stubborn one to get through to out of everyone, and it's really hard getting the measure of him and getting him to behave!"

Mohandras K. Gandhi.

Really nice quotations, everyone.

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belogs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly... who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause.." Teddy Rooseveldt

There are 5 major S's in life and Doctor took me off Scotch, salt, sugar, and sex. He Aint getting my smokes!!! my friend.


I am not looking for longterm relationships. Anything over 30 min in the parking lots to freakin long!!! my friend from Jr. High school.... 7th grade.


when life hands you a lemon throw it back until you get a margerita!! my sister in law

When I was young I thought I was old. When I was old I thought I was young.... My timing sucks!!! unknown

Life is like laundry. you just tumble along with everything else untill you dry out. unknown

The most dreaded words in the English language are "Some assembly required."
Grant, age 9

The more mistakes I make, the smarter I get.
Jennifer, age 13

Smiles are wondrous things; you can give them out for eternity and always have one left for yourself.
Colleen, age 13

Blessed are the flexable, for they shall not be bend out of shape! unknown

An archaeologist is the best husband a woman can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her. -- Agatha Christie

My favourites:-
a) Flasher than a rat with a gold tooth (a classic)
b) She/he has the IQ of a mattress (a schoolfriend)
c) my legs are running out of sleep (my colleagues 3 year old)
d) as subtle as a brick on the head (not sure of it's origins)

Those are fun.

We hear:

"About as smart as a box of hammers."

or,

"About as smart as your average jar of dirt."

and here is one of my favorites from Foghorn Leghorn (he's the rooster in the old Warner Bros. cartoons):

"I say, I say, that kid's about as sharp as a bowlin' ball!"

We live by hope. We do not always get all we want when we want it. But we have to believe that someday, somehow, some way, it will be better and that we can make it so.

Hubert H. Humphrey (1911-1978)
Politician


What oxygen is to the lungs, such is hope to the meaning of life.

Emil Brunner (1889-1966)
Theologian

"I will make love my greatest weapon and none on who I call can defend against its force... My love will melt all hearts liken to the sun whose rays soften the coldest day." -- Og Mandino

"They are not the brightest bulb in the box" or "the sharpest tool in the shed"





My momma always said life was like a box of chocolates�you never know what you're gonna get.
Forrest Gump Spoken by Tom Hanks in movie Forrest Gump

Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom, and a little flower.
Hans Christian Anderson

Trish

If we examine every stage of our lives, we find that from our first breath to our last we are under the constraint of circumstances. And yet we still possess the greatest of all freedoms, the power of developing our innermost selves in harmony with the moral order of the Universe, and so winning peace at heart whatever obstacles we meet.

-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"There can be no Peace, no Serenity and no Harmony in our Lives, if the Things we say are different to the things we do."

Who said THAT?

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. Mother Teresa

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace.
You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope someday you'll join us,
And the world will be as one. John Lennon

Trish

lama Yeshe Thongtrup, a prominent Buddhist Tibetan Lama.

Thanks. It is easier to get into the quotes we read here if we can see who said it, when it is written.

"He was interesting because he was interested. He had a way of approaching subjects that was never boring."-- Gore Vidal, on writer Norman Mailer, who died at age of 84.

Trish

coincidence - i sent this one out with my newsletter today

'dont tell me the moon shines,
show me the glint on broken glass'

anton chekhov

ps - hi from new short stories ed

siobhain

Hi Siobhain

That's a very interesting one from Chekhov. Am i remembering correctly that he spent much time in a gaol? It goes to show how much knowing who said it places new meaning on what is said.

hi hollyelise - yes - its certainly a good one for writers and poets

btw...
i will come see you again when im ready to prettify my graphics/articles!

ps any ideas for Michel Faber's 'Chocolate Hearts from the New World?'

any glittery chocs?

There are two ways of meeting difficulties: You alter the difficulties, or you alter yourself to meet them.

Phyllis Bottome (1884-1963)
Writer

Someone was talking about examples recently... i don't remember where. But i just came across this proverb:

A good example is like a bell that calls many to church.
-- Danish Proverb

Here is another:

Example is not the main thing in influencing others.
It is the only thing.
-- Albert Schweitzer

Michael Jordan said, "I have failed many times and that is why I'm a big success".

Donald Trump: "I try to learn from the past, but I plan for the future by focusing on the present. That is where the fun is!"

Such good advice!

Trish

My partner came up with this one, so I'm not sure of the source:

'If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got!'

Alex, here is the second part of it, I think. 'If you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you're getting... So if you don't like what you're getting, Change what your doing!!"

"Walk slowly at a relaxed pace and you won't stumble". Tao-Te Ching

Mark Twain: "When in doubt, tell the truth"

Trish

You will never be happier than you expect. To change your happiness, change your expectation.

---Bette Davis

Realize that true happiness lies within you. Waste no time and effort searching for peace and contentment and joy in the world outside. Remember that there is no happiness in having or in getting, but only in giving. Reach out. Share. Smile. Hug. Happiness is a perfume you cannot pour on others without getting a few drops on yourself.

---Og Mandino

Very good.

It's easy to halve the potato where there's love.
-- Irish Proverb

The best memory is that which forgets nothing but injuries. Write kindness in marble and write injuries in the dust.
-- Persian Proverb

To carry a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee.
-- William H. Walton

Trish

A hypocrite is in himself both the archer and the mark, in all actions shooting at his own praise or profit.

Thomas Fuller

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"T'is the plumber whose tap always leaks".

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
--Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)


The hatred you're carrying is a live coal in your heart - far more damaging to yourself than to them.
--Lawana Blackwell The Dowry of Miss Lydia Clark, 1999



It really doesn't matter if the person who hurt you deserves to be forgiven. Forgiveness is a gift you give yourself. You have things to do and you want to move on.
--Real Live Preacher RealLivePreacher.com Weblog, July 7, 2003


If you haven't forgiven yourself something, how can you forgive others?
--Dolores Huerta

Oh those are really lovely, Holly.... Thank you for posting them.

The second quotation is indeed from the work you quote, but as an aside, it's a very ancient (Buddhist) teaching, though I have no doubt it is to be found elsewhere, too.

Really nice, thanks.

Never answer an angry word with an angry word. It�s the second one that makes the quarrel.

W. A. Nance

I'm posting this again, for someone who thinks they burdened me with their troubles (they did not):

�What makes loneliness an anguish is not that I have no one to share my burden, but this: I have only my own burden to bear.�

---Dag Hammarskjold

I like that one Holly - How about this one

"If friends were flowers, I'd pick you"

I don't know who said it, but I like it.

Hallmark?

...that Hallmark guy... he sure is a smart one.

Is that where that quote came from? LOL

I'm just guessing.

Confuscius 551 BCE � 479 BCE

Aristotle 384-322 BCE

St. Aquinas 1225-1274 ACE

Renee Descarte 1596-1650 ACE

Hallmark 1910 - present

No..... Interflora... Wasn't their slogan "say it with Flowers" - ? *tee hee*

Judge Judy would agree with that...

"Madam, Madam! You're not receiving, madam! YOU shouldn't have gone over and hit him back! No, no,no,no,no.... yes it was your fault, yes it was... Oh yes it was! Your claim is dismissed!"

(I should get out more.....)

hahaha.

I was trying to look up where the quote "If friends were flowers, I'd pick you" came from, but everywhere I looked said the author was unknown. Most of the references WERE from flower companies, scrapbooking, etc. There were 2 that I found that were pretty interesting since these have been topics on Bella recently.

Creativity, when not used, turns to depression. -- Henri Reiman.......... (a good answer to haridas' question about being sad.)

Worrying about something is like paying interest on a debt you don't even know if you owe. -- Mark Twain .......... (something for Rosie (skyhaven) to think about when she says she worries about everything.)

Trish

hahhahaa! good old Mark Twain.

All religions will pass, but this will remain: simply sitting in a chair and looking into the distance.

-V. V. Rozanov

Keep knocking, and the joy inside will eventually open a window and look out to see who's there.

-Rumi

That's really beautiful!

yes, i thought that was an especially nice one, too.

Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.

-Marie Curie

This is just a question....
I adore quotations. Love 'em. They come from wise souls and can teach us so much, on so many different levels.

How many of us, though, remember them when we need to?
Do we live by their sagacity?
When our personal world seems dark, do we recall their luminous nature, and live by them?

I know I don't always.
many on this board will remember that I don't - !!

But I do attemt to incorporate Right Effort in my thoughts, words and deeds.

I try.

But as one small green wise man said:
"Do or do not. there IS no 'Try' "....!!

Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat.

-F. Scott Fitzgerald


I am not judged by the number of times I fail, but by the number of times I succeed: and the number of times I succeed is in direct proportion to the number of times I fail and keep trying.

-Tom Hopkins



Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all.

-Dale Carnegie


The men who try to do something and fail are infinitely better than those who try nothing and succeed.

-Lloyd Jones

There is a fine difference of perspective between getting involved and being committed. In ham and eggs, the chicken is involved but the pig is committed.

John-Allen Price

No amount of common sense will ever prevail against a modicum of stupidity that is currently in fashion.

(From "start from where you are" but anonymously attributed.)

'Let's start puttin' first things first'
'Cause when your hourglass runs outta sand
You can't flip it over, start again
Take every breath God gives you, for what it's worth

From the song Don't Blink by Kenny Chesney

..Anyone want to come in on my post earlier....? #364817...?

Alexandra - I think it would be difficult to remember quotes when we absolutely need them, but it is good to have so many here to reflect on and try to remember them the next time we need them.

Your quote reminded me of this one:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

Albert Einstein


I love Einstein quotes... he was a cracker! His humor and wit reminds me a lot of that of Mark Twain. Here are a few more good Einstein quotes:

"Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity."

-Albert Einstein


"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. "

--Albert Einstein




In reference to his discoveries that led to the creation of the atom bomb...

"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."

--Albert Einstein




I thought many of you might find this one interesting:

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. "

--Albert Einstein



"To punish me for my contempt for authority, fate made me an authority myself. "

--Albert Einstein



"The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax. "

--Albert Einstein, (attributed)


"The strongest force in the universe is compound interest."

--Albert Einstein, (attributed)



"If A is success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."

--Albert Einstein, Observer, Jan. 15, 1950

Isn't that one a hoot?!!!

And one to leave you by:

"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. "

--Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio

hahahaha I never knew Einstein was such a comedian. Learn something new every day!

He was pretty much the class clown / class dreamer in school. He flunked out of lots of classes because he wouldn't apply himself. Kinda makes you think twice about people, doesn't it? His classmates probably were laughing at him, then look what he turned out to be!

"You spend your life fighting dirt, and when you die they bury you in it."

--unknown

I'm giving up cleaning. LOL.

Ooooo! I love that one!

This is from a book I just read: "A Civil Campaign" by Lois McMaster Bujold -
"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself."

And then the following statment:
"There is no more hollow feeling than to stand with your honor shattered at your feet while soaring public reward wraps you in rewards. That's soul-destroying. The other way around is merely very, very irritating."

oooo! I love that first one, especially! I have often felt the same about it. I don't know how people can stand having only the appearance of honor, when they know inside they've done something wrong and just not gotten caught.

Quote:

I wanted a perfect ending. Now I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious Ambiguity.[Gilda Radner]

that was nice. Gilda was special.


In recognition of my television problems, i've dug up some quotes about television....

"Television is the first truly democratic culture - the first culture available to everybody and entirely governed by what the people want. The most terrifying thing is what people do want."

-- Clive Barnes

"I hate television. I hate it as much as I hate peanuts. But I can't stop eating peanuts."

-- Orson Welles


"Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television."

-- Archie Bunker

"Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before." - Mae West

Happiness is where we find it, but rarely where we seek it.
J. Petit Senn

Found that one today - makes you think huh?

"Laugh and the world laughs with you; Weep and you weep alone."
from "Solitude" by Ella Wheeler Wilcox

Trish

Here are a couple from the bulletin board at my desk:

"Whether you think you can, or think you cannot, you're always right!" Napoleon Hill

"Give someone a fish and they will have food for a day. Teach them how to fish and they will have food for life." Unknown

"God doesn't require us to succeed; he only requires that you try." Mother Teresa

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"Whatever makes your boat float."

With my luck, my ship will come in and I will be at the airport

-Rodney Dangerfield

"there is a time to laugh, a time to weep, a time to mourn, and there is a time to dance." ~ Footloose

I wanted a perfect ending. Now I�ve learned, the hard way, that some poems don�t rhyme, and some stories don�t have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment and making the best of it without knowing what�s going to happen next. -Gilda Radner ...

Who was it, in the movie, who said:

"You talking to me? You talking to ME?"

Robert Deniro in Taxi Driver - 1976.

You talking to me? ...You talking to me? Well then who the h*ll else are you talking to?...You talking to me? ...Well I'm the only one here. Who the **** do you think you're talking to?

There is no shame in failing, only in not trying.

Time is all we have and you may find one day you have less than you think.

"I attribute my success to this: I never gave or took an excuse." - Florence Nightingale

Here is my favorite:

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find anything that agrees with reason and is conductive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.

This is an interesting quote:

"Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each other exceeds your need for each other." ― Dalai Lama

I do like this quote by Thomas Henry Huxley:

"Try to learn something about everything and everything about something."