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Posted By: eoJ Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 09:54 AM
OK some of u may have been dieing to know if the game Final Fantasy XI is a good game.. my standards it is(ok no sarcasim now) sadly though i don't think o hole lot or maybe none but me actuly play FF XI online in this forum <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> its probly from the high cost. Now just telling u this isn't coming from me but from a hole bunch of sites and a trusted place i know. The game works much ebtter on the PC then the console and the graphics are more enhanced on the pc then on the ps2. But it is a point and click aspect to it. whicth makes it easier for pc gamers that have it> In the ps2 vershion u have direct control of the character but the contrulls are a bit more tedius now on the pc u click on the character and point it in a direction..now it even has a system where u click the right clicker once in a direction u want to go and it does travels automaticly. If u need to get somewhere..But only if ur a experianced player and can get threw the monsters without dieing in a couple of hits but its fun to do that in town travel with no enamies <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> i sujjest u read somthing from these two sites...whicth ofer more because i have only played it for uhmm 1 week
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/finalfantasy11/review.html thie next one evn gives u a video <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
http://www.techtv.com/xplay/reviews/story/0,24330,3588418,00.html

now i am giving u from somebody u know hehe.

first off the game is pretty..just first class graphics much better then most games right now. The charcter dezine from my own words and my own eyes is just fascinating. Whicth comes to Characters there is a lack of game characters that u can make. But u never know..they are still updating the game and u could get more. But the job system is really nice...i think theres a way to change jobs in the heat of battle i forget but at first u go to your moogle house to change jobs..From reading that first review i now see there are more jobs whicth i knew but didn't know what leading up to a summoner.

One thing enix could not even come up with new names other then summons to name there worlds with. whicth is intirly sad. The world names come from mainly of old summons from ff games <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> and i have yet found out what these worlds look like. even another thing if u wish to name ur character u can but now pretty much all the names of ff games are gone..paine wasn't but i wanted something new. like most people should instead of useing old ff names.(sorry bout that readers)

the enganging into a battle is hard to learn at first and does need hours to start learning whicth i am learning. u have to have a good click on the monster click it again and then click attack. whicth yes is a little bit awkard at times but the seacond click is needed primarly because also u can check the monster to see if u can actuly fight it..or this game would just be...it ranges from a easy prey to impressivly invincible tough monster..now this only realtes to u...meaning if ur a low lvl and it says tough monster u better run like hell because trust me the game knows what it means by tough monster u will die easily...whicth is core for this game..like saving in other ff its key to saving as often as possible in ff series..but this time its checking every monster..unless ur just a good kik [censored] player. and another thing..if u love wacthing south park then u know kenny..a kid who dies pretty much every episode..and i read a headline in that seacond site..and its true heres what it says "youll die more then kenny from southpark" and whicth is 100% true even if ur a vertren rpg player..it apllies to u hehe.

u can be saying if i ever get thsi game i can beat the game or travel anywhere with just my self...is a lie lie lie even if ur the highest lvl ull have a hard really hardtime beating some of the obticals u have to face in ff XI. Party is up to 6 and is really needed and is what thsi game is about. there is no PVP But as known b4 i got on he makers are working on a update to put that in.. Its just one of thoose games that is never ending as they are always updateing the game. speaking of updates it takes a really long time to update something even with a compute rthat is fast at downloading files. it takes a long time from box to installing and registering it took 3 hours for me to do all taht..not funny. but it is a over 5 gigs whicth im starting to learn on my computer

woohoo everyone loves this part don't they..the price...this game cost a lot of money..to people without deep pockets but..great game..it cost me 54 dollers with tax to buy the game..then theres activation of your account whicth is only 40 dollers a year ( A YEAR NOT MOUNTH) but u still gota pay after 30 days of playing whicth equals...90 dollers...then there comes Character (or content id's) whicth cost 12.95 a mounth for one character..and if u want to make another character that adds on another one buck to that making it..13.95 a mounth..and u can purches 16 id's...

then there game comes with tetra master..a game from (i think) Final Fantasy IX(9) a fun and time consuming game..that sorda playes like ff8 but difern't(i have never played ff9 so i don't knwo quite yet) I will update u guys as i progress in the game..there shoudl be more..now i bet u anything barly anyone will read this cuzz its so long..but it took neraly 20 or 30 minuits to make this...well i think only 10 i didn't keep count but its a lot of typing that i did my self belive it or not

<img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> yes its high cost but well worth it <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

oh yes i almost forgot:adding in for editing: u can even change your view to a first person view..whicth is really awakard but the fighting looks cool and u can see a bit better where ur walking also u can click on a monster from a far distance..b4 u go close to it..and b4 u can be spoted...

also u need a good video card to actuly play the game to..without one ur stuck chatting or playing tetra master..and as that site says..DON"T PLAY ON DIAL UP!!! and if u ahve dial up and have aol..lol ur just screwed. right now cause i shouldn't but right now i am giving it a 4 out of 5 and a 8 out of 10...but that one site that says graphics aren't good..lol i would give graphics a 11 out of 10 hehe <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: I of Solitude Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 10:12 AM
*makes a tree that grows money*

there. Now I can play this game.

you making it worse for me, Joe <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I want this game NOW! oh and a better computer and everything else needed for it

excellent review <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 10:15 AM
it makes u want it more because there isn't that many flaws to the game..

thanks i wanted people to know from somebody that has been playing it a bit...
Posted By: I of Solitude Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 10:21 AM
it's always good to hear/read things from someone who has experienced something first hand, not regergitating (or however you spell it...) it from someone else
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 10:54 AM
hehe like i said ill update in about a mounth then ill be more expieanced
Posted By: Fusion Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/21/04 12:20 PM
I am also grateful for the perzonalized review, however money doesn't grow on trees, so I think I will be avoiding this one. <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/22/04 06:13 AM
d idea i shoudl ahve bought just another 50 doller game..but i don't even think i can oford this game..now im not saying the game is bad in that way its just expensive.. :rolleyes: can't return it now <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Niamh Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/22/04 04:04 PM
well, I wll buy it once I get a job >_<;

job's doesn't grow 'n trees either <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/22/04 10:27 PM
almost forgot..the freind list is differn't..u have to message people..to actuly talk to people..and get on a chat room..i think theres another way..not sure..and getting to play on the same server as ur own freinds is a little hard work..cause one of them has to have a world pass...whicth gets u anywhere if u have the password. the map just sucks..tho... theres no way to get it on the screen u have to get the main menu open then select map..theres barly any words on there the north south, east and west system sucks on it..and it takes a while to learn how to travel..u can travel on foot chocobos or even airships <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: I of Solitude Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/25/04 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by Zack:
[qb] well, I wll buy it once I get a job >_<;

job's doesn't grow 'n trees either <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> [/qb]
yeah, some jobs grow on trees. something about chopping and planting...horticulture or sumhting like that
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/26/04 01:25 PM
Hello there,

Thanks for the info I enjoyed reading it, however I have a few adjustments/comments on it... Here's my 2 Gil...

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Whicth comes to Characters there is a lack of game characters that u can make
Depends on how you look at it. You can also think of it like this: Each time you start a new job, you start a new character, basically that's one of little reasons to start a new character, besides being tired of the looks of your current character...

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One thing enix could not even come up with new names other then summons to name there worlds with.
Well, it's a FF game after all... Still has to have the charms of a Final Fantasy game doesn't it? I think the world names were picked for a reason... Everyone has a favourite Summon/Aeon... What would be more cool than playing on a server that has the name of your fav Summon/Aeon? <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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the enganging into a battle is hard to learn at first and does need hours to start learning whicth i am learning. u have to have a good click on the monster click it again and then click attack.
Not necessarily, you can use your keybord. If you hit the ENTER button without having typed any words, you target the closest mob in the area you are in. Then you can hit CTRL+C to see how tough the mob is and hit CTRL+A to start attacking. Macros make things a lot easier as well.

For example you want to Attack a mob and right away heal the second person (after you) in your party, then the macro would look like this:

/attack <t> (to attack the mob you are targetting)
/ma Cure <p1> (to heal the second person in your party)

You can also add another line saying something to your party such as:

/attack <t>
/p Attacking <t>
/ma Cure <p1>
/p Casting Cure on <p1>

although the last line is kind of too much cuz you will get a system message that will give you that information as well.

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..and i read a headline in that seacond site..and its true heres what it says "youll die more then kenny from southpark" and whicth is 100% true even if ur a vertren rpg player..it apllies to u hehe.
I guess that depends on how many MMORPGs you have played... I have played a lot of them and I didn't have too much trouble killing/lvling (Although it takes long for someone to get a lvl in the early stages)

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speaking of updates it takes a really long time to update something even with a compute rthat is fast at downloading files. it takes a long time from box to installing and registering it took 3 hours for me to do all taht..not funny. but it is a over 5 gigs whicth im starting to learn on my computer
Totally have to agree on that one! It took me ages to register, do all the updates and then finally I could create a character!

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also u need a good video card to actuly play the game to..
Not really, my Geforce2 V7700D could handle things easy and that's a graphic card that is 5 years old! The only thing you have to consider is you can't run the game in 1024x768 with a background option of 1024x1024. I am running it on 512x521 background and 800x600 resolution.

At home I am running a Geforce4 MX440 64mb and that one runs the game just smooth on 1024x1024 and 1024x768 resolution.

I even heard people playing this game on a laptop (!!!)

I hope it helps...!
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/26/04 01:29 PM
Sorry, forgot a major tip for those that bought the game and are just starting out:

Read the manual!!! Very important!!! I read the hole thing and it helps a lot. It explains you a lot, i.e. how to attack, how to use moghouses, how to party up etc etc...

Also here are two sites that have a lot of information regarding FF XI:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com
http://ffxi.crgaming.com

Hope that helps!
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/26/04 10:36 PM
hehe

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Depends on how you look at it. You can also think of it like this: Each time you start a new job, you start a new character, basically that's one of little reasons to start a new character, besides being tired of the looks of your current character
I know theres many jobs for that character thats not what im saying theres only a few characters u can make i mean races...there are few races..u can make..and that makes a real high lvl f people that look the same whicth is isn't new to ff but it still needs a more selection other then 6 races..

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Well, it's a FF game after all... Still has to have the charms of a Final Fantasy game doesn't it? I think the world names were picked for a reason... Everyone has a favourite Summon/Aeon... What would be more cool than playing on a server that has the name of your fav Summon/Aeon?
yes thast true..but they still should of had some better names..they have been useing bahamut from ff7 i think..well they use shiva iifrit bahamut..to much and i really think they should come up and create some more but what u said is a good argument

hehe and what u said about teh battle system..i just found out about all that stuff on the computer..i just wanted to play around with the game and the keybored and i found out hehe i told u im still learning <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

there has been alot of problems..with video cards...i geuss because what ur saying its like just some people get the problem..and some don't but its still recomme4nded that u have a good card

thank u for actuly reading the hold thing <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/27/04 08:09 AM
No worries, it was a good review!
Posted By: cteel Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/27/04 12:49 PM
i got the game pretty much the day it came out (around Nov) and it took 16 hrs to install...
its a really good game but it somtimes gets boring. not to mention u hav 2 hav a perfect computer
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/27/04 02:17 PM
how did it take u 16 hours to install?
Posted By: cteel Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/27/04 11:15 PM
my computer didnt hav alot of ram or memory
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/28/04 08:41 PM
hehe lol i just relized ff7 isn't the longest of the ff now ff 11 is the longest non stop <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

oh and i saw a carbuncle to..OMG SOO CUTE!!!!its blue great colors its like hes surounded in a blue aura and carbuncle in the game looks like a little dog and SO cute!!i want to summon damnit hehe
Posted By: DarkMatter Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/28/04 09:55 PM
Aim: hehe Carbuncle can be summoned in FF8, Joe <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> and that review is cool <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> we both read it all <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> good job, hunni! i liked the parts u put in about the cost... that pretty heavy going! all i thought u had to pay was the $13 for a month and that was it (oh n the game of course). i don't think i'll b getting this EVER coz my comp is shite and its wayyyyy to expensive!! i'm just a student ya know <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Gerb: Okay well the review is nice mate, but I've gotta say the game is WAY to expensive, I woulnd't know anyone really who would buy it for that price. And the computer won't be a problem for me, I've already got it (of course <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ) what I defenitly hate about FF XI already without even playing it is that they HAVEN'T got PVP!
At the moment I'm playing an MMORPG called Ragnarok online it has quite a few different jobs about 8 first lvl jobs and 16 2nd lvl jobs, and it has PVP, the graphics looks nice, hardly lags cuz the graphics ain't that high, the background/worlds are 3D and the characters/monsters are 2D and ITS FREE!!!! (well if you play it on a private server) there are about 150 people on regularly on a private server which is quite nice, you can make as many characters as you like..

What I'd like to know is how advanced is the job leveling system in FF XI, and the graphics don't really matter to me as you might know, so if it ain't that much better I'd much rather keep playing Ragnarok since it's free, and well it has accesoires with which you can change your appearance anytime so you won't get bored of a characters appearance <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/28/04 10:19 PM
hehe i don't moind..i know u would never play it but in about 2 mounths there will be PVP <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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I woulnd't know anyone really who would buy it for that price
well u do now..i just wanted a differnet experiance in a ff game.. The jobs in that game..ok well if u start out with a warrier u get some abilities.i have fast blade(kik [censored] noob move) and if u want to swicth and start learning something like white mage spells u start learning like cure..and if u want to swicth to warrier u know have cure and fast blade..there is seacondary jobs..whicth i can get yet..like dark knight summoner..stuff like that..they say there going to update it with more jobs..and with pvp and with other stuff they are also going to add new worlds thus reveiling even MORE jobs..its gunna take a while its only been out since..uhm..i forget..lkike december i think..so there working on it i would like to get some screen shots but i still don't know how. :mad

bet u know how its mine..bad spelling LOL..and did u see that last link u can see a 3 minuite video on it from smarter people my trusted game testers..funny really <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> and thanks for reading <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

and aim i know what carbuncle is from! *humph*
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/29/04 12:00 PM
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What I'd like to know is how advanced is the job leveling system in FF XI, and the graphics don't really matter to me as you might know, so if it ain't that much better I'd much rather keep playing Ragnarok since it's free, and well it has accesoires with which you can change your appearance anytime so you won't get bored of a characters appearance
There is a little more to tell about the job system in FFXI:

For starters you can switch your main job any time you like. I.e. you are a Hume and you start out as a warrior, and you decide you prefer a little more dmg, and you want to switch to a Monk, you can do so by going to your own little MogHouse and switch jobs.

Then, when you hit level 18, you can do a quest which gives you the oppertunity to add a sub job. Sub jobs give you a chance to make your char more powerfull. I.e. if you want to play a warrior/whm like Joe referred to, you will have to go to the MogHouse again and chose a subjob.
Once your subjob is chosen, you will have to start leveling it. To make your subjob level, you will have to switch your subjob(WHM in this case) to main and start lvling that job. How does this work? Well easy, your subjob(Which is then War) is always half the lvl - or one lvl lower than half in case of odd numbers - of that of your main. I.e. you are lvl20 on your warrior and lvl1 on your WHM since you just started that subjob. Then, if you switch to WHM, you are lvl1 and you start lvling.
At lvl4 i.e. on your main job as a WHM, you will be a lvl2 war - so you have the skills and abilities of a lvl2 warrior, this would add to your lvl4WHM, since warriors get hit less often and can take more dmg.

Now at lvl30, you can do a quest to get a new job. This is NOT a subjob, just another job to chose from. I.e. you are lvl 30 War/lvl 10WHM and you want to start playing a Summoner. Then you switch your main job (Warrior lvl30) to Sum lvl1, which means that (same story as above) you would be at lvl4 a lvl4 sum/lvl2 whm.

I hope that helps!

PS: Right now I'm a lvl6WHM Mithra on the Lakshmi server!
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 02/29/04 06:17 PM
woohoo hopefully u stay around <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/01/04 07:01 AM
Probably, we'll see how things go <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: tsego3 Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/01/04 12:38 PM
mwah job system sounds fun but it's waaaay to expensive the game I mean

and well... I'll juz wait with it till I know a private and FREEEEE server <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

then I only have to buy the game n thats it <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/01/04 10:48 PM
i know i think playonline are greedy little bast***s <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> i really think it should be towned down..its even like this on the ps2 vershion... :rolleyes:
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/02/04 08:23 AM
Oh come on... How many GOOD MMORPGs you know that are free? Stop whining about costs... I don't think I have to tell you how many people actually work on making the game better? There's a dev team, admin team, tech support... How do you think they should pay for that? From other games? Then the other SE games will get more expensive. That what u want?
Admitted, the 1 doller extra per extra service/char is rediculous but you can't blame them for asking the same price as Everquest, Anarchy Online, Earth and Beyond, Star Wars Galaxies, Lineage, Asheron's Call, Asheron's Call 2 and many other MMORPG games.

There.
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/02/04 10:34 PM
hehe im sorda complaining its not that bad if u think about it..once u pay for the 50 bucksw then after 30 days only 40 then only 40 dollers each year its not that bad :rolleyes:
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/03/04 08:42 AM
I think it's a decent fee, but of course I can understand if people would not buy a game that you have to pay for even after you purchased a copy. Try to think of it as a license you buy for a program (If any of you AT ALL buy programs lol) You purchase the program, but if you buy a license you get rights for updates, upgrades, patches, support and what have ya. ^^

Btw I was in Taronghi last night with a Japanese dude, was impressed with the autotranslate function... It works pretty well... Of course you can't have regular conversations with it, but you can make yourself quite understandable.
Posted By: tsego3 Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/03/04 10:33 AM
well I still BUY a lot of my programes and I don't mind paying for it after I got it I mean it's online sounds logical

but if you play FF XI with 1 character for a year it's about let's see
50 for the game + 40 online account
and 12,95 per month x 12 = rougly 150

so that's bout 240 dollars the first year..

thats basicly all the money I have, I'm a student, we aren't rich. If you ask me they should just leave it with an online acount n that's it make the online acount like 10 dollars more expensive per year then, but thats way better than that amount per month.

and in the meanwhile I know good MMORPG's and I know the ones that are free, and I'll keep playing those till FF XI will have private servers else I just can afford it it's as simple as that.
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/03/04 10:57 AM
I don't think you have to pay for the online account, but that's because I haven't had the bill yet and didn't bother checking (sigh - I guess I'm kinda lasy that way)

I don't think there will be private servers for Final Fantasy personally, but for your sake it would be nice if there were.

Check out www.guildwars.com if you want to see this MMORPG. It's a good one probably, in the making by the dev team that's behind Starcraft and Warcraft. That's going to be totally fee-free. And looks good too ^^
Posted By: tsego3 Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/03/04 11:03 PM
Guildwars defenitly looks really amazing...

the thing is though, won't the server lag big time with such graphics.

it's already laggin with Ragnarok Online and that's not really.. well hardly any high res 3D stuff
Posted By: eoJ Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/03/04 11:29 PM
lol ffxi one never lags..well thats just mine with my modem..but it really shouldn't lag unless u have a56 k modem or aol..even then it won't that much i havn't yet to expireance lag in that game <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/04/04 06:24 AM
Lag only is caused by internet related stuff, not graphical stuff. I.e. when you have a GF4 and a dial up modem 56k and you want to play Everquest and go to a very large andv ery high populated zone, you will get lag. Not becuase your graphic card isn't good, but because your internet connection isn't good enough to download all the files in a proper time.

Graphics don't lag, they drop framerate. So when you have a DSL line but you have for instance a GF2 card, your game will be slow. Why? Not because your DSL line isn't fast enough to download the packets, but because your graphic card, can't handle the calculations it has to make to put everything in the right place on your screen.

Having said that, you should now understand that playing GuildWars won't so much be an issue for all you dial-up modem users, moreover for the ones that are still using a low-end graphic card.

I hope that helps!
Posted By: Fusion Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/04/04 07:42 AM
Hey, Gerbill, do you have a link for the Ragnarok you were talking about?
Posted By: CoffeeMug Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/04/04 08:10 AM
http://iro.ragnarokonline.com/

That's the official site, for private servers I wouldn't have a clue...
Posted By: tsego3 Re: Final Fantasy XI Little review - 03/04/04 10:14 AM
well I've got fast enough internet, it's just that the server they got can't handle all the people on there esp the ones with not as fast internet <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

oh and I've agreed not to tell anyone about the private server I'm on now, cuz they just had nuff time to save it, one of the gamemasters got busted, and got a fee of loadsamoney.

and we've got it all secure now so no can't do sorry.
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