I'm a newbie tatter. I have several books and have looked at videos online. However, I cannot figure out how to make my second ring close to the first ring. I make the first one successfully, and then the second ring, but when I pull the thread to close the ring, it slides far away on the thread, leaving about 8 to 12 inches of thread in between the two rings. I've been trying different ways to wrap the thread, different places to place the ds, but have not been successful. Anyone envision what I'm doing wrong, or how to help me? Thanks.