BellaOnline Forums Religion and Spirituality Clairvoyance Visions of the Near Future...

Since I was just a child in preschool...I have been warning everyone around me of future events to come. Not really understanding that 'not everyone is seeing the same horrible events' as me. I have always had these "dreams" while completely awake. Most call it a gift...I consider it a curse. Being born a Caulbearer has positioned me in harmful environments throughout my entire life.

However, within the past several years, I've begun to use these "dreams" to help myself and others. I'm asked on a regular basis, "What do you see happening in the future?" Some take what they hear to heart and draw up a protection plan...and then a few become upset at what they have heard, because it's not the answer they were hoping to hear.

I've decided to post this discussion, in an attempt to share with others...the dreams I have had of the near future. This topic is only to help others understand and/or help prepare to the best of their abilities. If I receive enough interest, then I'll post my visions in several segments. If you're one of those who don't want to to know...then all I can simply say is, "DON'T VIEW THIS THREAD"
Thank you for taking the time to read this post and I look forward to hearing from those of you interested.

Jade Edwards - Director
Sok Ko Healing Modality

Caulbearer11
Welcome. I am interested in what you have to share.

Jade, there are many with similar "talents" here, I'm one. I too used to refer to my inheritance as the "Family Curse." I was dismissed as a child and even accused of lying. When my daughter started showing signs she had received her part of the inheritance, I decided to break the negativity and only use positive terms like talent, or ability. We have a level of communication I treasure, as I never had anything close to it with my Mother.

I don't think I was born with a caul. These things aren't discussed in my family. I was jaundiced and a few days after birth had an excessively high and unexplained fever which almost killed me. My daughter was not born with a caul and had no life threatening illnesses. For us, I think it's just an ability from my Mother's side.

I have experienced precognitive dreams since a child. They were partially turned off in May, 2000, but started back up this past August. The preceding months of the OK City bombing was the only time I had daymares. My normal dreaming is lucid, the precognitive dreams are not, and I also experience "instant knowledge" while talking with others.

As for my dreams from last August, there are several with strikingly similar dreams and visions. I am very interested in yours. Please share.

In another thread of this forum I posted a "seed" of mine had sprouted. My Father does not share his Father's strong belief in dreams, but I felt compelled to try one more time and share mine. I was very blunt and said "I'm not the only CRAZY person experiencing this!" He has started planning and preparing. Unexpected seeds do sometimes sprout.

Some people will never listen. But at this moment in time, with all the uneasy feelings, I think more people are receptive to information from unconventional sources. We'll never convince everyone, but that's not stopping me, and others here, from reaching out to as many as we can.

Hi Jade welcome,

This is a forum with ultra similar cursed/gifted individuals and many are reaching out as well as there really isn't anything else you can do. I call it taking a negative and turning it into a positive. You're right, there are people who don't want to hear but you just have to keep going for the people who do want to arm themselves.

I see it like the fairytale, "Three Little Pigs." Two of the three wanted to play without a care in the world while the last one pushed on building something that would sustain what he knew was headed their way.

I can't tell you the number of political dreams, broken street pipes, windows smoke, some green haze ??? whatever that is - but it's green like right before a tornado but with more dark clouds above it...but they have to do with the future and there are 3 types of people -

The dazed, like they can't believe it, the rioting/angry and the 3rd little piggies. I'm hoping to be one of them and help others who might want to be one too

Hello, everyone I just wanted you to know that I haven't forgotten to write...it's just that once I started writing, it kind of turned into a book! :) Anyway, I'll post something soon.

I get that too. It's really interesting. I can sit in front of my computer and nothing comes, but I'll know I have to finish an article. But, when this other thing happens, it's almost like channeling. There isn't anything I can't answer and a once mild posting turns into a sequel of Moby Dick.

I've been getting some harsh feelings about governmental changes, specifically with health care. I understand people are frustrated with HMO's, but this other thing when it is implemented, though you might not have had health insurance before and now with the changes will or could, it feels more of a security just for the person to know they have it, but has equally if not worse hoops you'll have to go through and a great deal of waiting.

No one will be special once they get everyone in and the people who lead lives vicariously and/or dangerously, well all of those people will be in the waiting rooms with everyone else as well. There will also be something I see protecting illegals, so say they do need care, no one is reporting their status - so basically we'll have other people's countries here as well. Taxes become outrageous.

Homeopathy, learning about plant functions, basically finding as many of your own coping mechanisms between now and whenever this things goes into play will help a great deal, and, in more ways than one.

My husband and I are growing herbs in a closet - legal ones, lol, but hard to find plants. We're working with the biochemical elements or properties as much as we can. We're also sowing the seeds of the plants and using the leaves so the plants recycle themselves.

We're all patiently waiting. Thanks for the update.

This pretty much sums it up. Especially the communication part.

I know it may seem like that shouldn't be the biggest, oh my gosh, but this communication thing branches out like a tree. That's what I see. CB's or some other type of signal to get through to someone is something I've been writing about for some time and networking with people, you can trust, wherever you are now.

The communication seems to hit, cells, internet, banks, utilities and parts of the military I feel have already been infiltrated with some type of a scrambler having to do with radar/sonar so our transportations and military vehicles that rely on these end up running into each other, planes, train, subwayys and water vehicles like subs.

All of the peole who are complaining and demanding this and that go ballistic on each other. Their complaints will have done nothing int he way of thinking rationally or having the skills to organze and ration. There will be a great deal of people thinking, "Every man for themselves" moreso than them and they won't be use to it. It's especially bloody inner-cities.

Not everyone will lose it though. There will be some who don't panic and are brave and iwll allow others to join them if they are willing to act in a jointly manner. Growing will be big, composting, etc. You'll want to learn about herbs that heal, help you sleep, keep you alert, etc.

Fascinating...and scary! You guys have any ideas about when this might occur? Do you feel that 2012 is significant? I really want to be prepared...or at least attempt to be...

Elleise and I have been discussing time lines since last August. There was a strong sense of "impending" in my dreams, with things starting in the larger cities and then spreading. Elleise commented about "spurts" before widespread. Maybe I'm picking up on a "spurt". We live about 25 miles out from a major city. I had to drive to the north side this morning. The closer I got, the heavier my shoulders got. When I returned home, the pressure was slightly relieved.

I've been dealing with the shoulder pressure for a year now, the longest period ever. Approximation to my home is one thing that comes through in my dreams, but it's very general. With a plane bomb, I knew it would not be in the US, but another country. Another bombing I knew would be in the central US. With this set of dreams, I know it will be close to my house, within 100 miles. We are midway through preparations, much akin to a hurricane evacuation, and have a safe, but temporary, place to go in the country.

After returning home this afternoon, I decided to ramp up the preparations a bit.

Gosh I hadn't realized we'd been talking since last Aug. Time does fly. Since the beginning of when I felt these things initially, before I was even with Bella and now, I can tell the difference in intensity.

Mine began 12-15 years ago. It's a lot to carry around and not talk about it. With 911 I felt increasing anxiety over a period of about 10 years.

It starts out like a whisper and one not very specific. So, for example with 911, where you might have loved to have flown before, which I did, I even had a pilot friend that would take me up on the weekends, little by little, if I had to get somewhere by plane, I was resistant, then it escalated to panic attacks and need medication before I could fly and from there I would talk a great deal about being hijacked when no one else would be wanting to talking about it. It was too depressing. I feel that same cycle now.

I feel there is going to be another stock drop bigger than the one before. There are other things that I feel that as thely happen we are getting closer to this bigger thing. Even so, it's not something where everyday needs to be lived in fear or anxiety. It's like having a first aid kit on hand for emergencies. We get past it and things are better for it having happened.

ICP is absolutely correct, inner cities won't do well. They won't have the resources and the people who did live in the cities that had money will have other properties out and away in discrete/remote locations. They are tipped off before hand and end up leaving before the little people go at it. Understand as well, the media will NOT - NOT cover signs. It will be up to you to pay attention and trust your intstincts.

Civil wars begin to be more prominent after 2012. There will be a move to either downplay them or refer to them as people being ingorant and racists. That wont be true. The people will be genuinely sick and tired of racial complaints and begin taking things into their own hands. More races begin feeling they should be recognized as well and will have funding and power to bring even more of those about.

Let me get some barings and see if I get a timeline....

There is much information on the convergence of things in the sky and on Earth at the end of 2012. I think it may be significant, but I'm not certain in what way. According to the Maya it's the end of the Long Count on their calendar which is more accurate than the one we currently use.

Based on their legends/history, each long count before ended in some type of catastrophy. We've been plugging along for over 5,000 years now. I strongly believe in the circles and cycles of life, all life. It may be we're about to complete a circle. We can all pray for positive changes and enlightenment as we start the next loop.

All the phrophecies I've looked into include a continuation of humans past 2012. Leaders of the residual Mayan culture are a bit confused about our panic. To them, it's just the start of another Long Count which will bring ever present, and always constant change. Considering what their culture experienced in this Long Count, hopefully the next will be better for them and all of us.

Hi ya sweetie

I think I want to start another thread or post. That one does have to do with prayer. I'd love for input.

I haven't looked into the Mayan calander, but I do feel the Mayans come up, quite a lot actually in readings for other people. Like they were there then and are here now kind of thing. It's spotty, not everyone, but the readings bring forth pictures and as I describe them and they stay with me it's the Mayan group that comes through along with another group. Maybe Inca? It's been awhile sice I felt that with someone.

I have people ask me about 2012 and I get the same feeling about 2012 as I do with numbers correlating with turns of centuries. There might be movies out and about centering around them but like icp mentions, cycles come more to mind more than anything.

The cycles aren't, as I feel it, what people think. So where you have some people thinking, this is it, now we're finally up on top. I just don't get that by any means, nothing. I get more that those feelings and actions are a part of the civil breakdown that ends up finalizing or bringing more about this other thing that is the real deal.

There won't be any shortcuts and it's too late to turn back, it's already in motion. But, your part in what does transpire is what you will leave behind - like a legacy.

Hopefully Jade will post another installment soon, and when the dreams have been shared in their entirety, perhaps add some preparation tips as well.

I strongly feel knowledge will be the most vauable asset anyone can have now and for the future. Communication/networking abilities will be second. Elleise has commented on both and I concur completely. However, both of these depend upon preparation.

For me, this is a repeat of what I was going through prior to the OK city bombing. The daymares dragged my brain to things I would never have considered. How much food for 2 to 3 years and how to store it. Finding land out in the woods and security issues. Hunting and tanning hides, food source and preservation techniques, etc. Except for the violence part, the militia organizations may have hit on something much sooner than the rest of us. A quick think back on history and most all visionaries were initially considered crazy people. Some were, but with the clarity of hindsight, we can glean the sane stuff.

My preparations include learning all I can right now to make myself as valuable as possible. Not for power or leadership, but as an asset to my family and friends, and to share. Securing my home and property is another point. Who knows, we may have something to return to if we need to leave. Living in a hurricane prone area, this is not unusual. It's annual planning, along with evacuation routes. Obtaining useful items, tools, food, medical supplies, etc. is also on the list and a project already begun.

I've recently added an inventory to my prep list. I need to go through my home and list the items most needed for survival if we needed to leave immediately, and a larger list if we have time to pack and the ability to take 2 vehicles.

Some might say I'm a bit paranoid. I see it as just being prepared. I agree with Elleise, we can't change this, it's coming. Prayer and Preparation are the best things we can do.

It's interesting, about visionaries. You're right, during the living years of the visionary, they were considered, mad, psychologically disturbed, even isolated. 100 years later after everything comes to pass though, they are cannonized as Saints or studied intensely, especially if they left their writtings behind. It isn't fun feeling events or coming to see them pass, but for the small relief that something somewhere was with you while you were feeling them, trying to help prepare.

I think I just recently, within the week or so, felt that along with several other things, vessels, ships, subways are slowly being implemented with some type of scrambler. As soon as I sat down at the computer, I saw this. There aren't a lot of details. But, this in part is what we'll see, but there will be other things like helicopters smashing into eachother, subway trains running into each other, water subs crashing, etc.

They'll be scattered at first, here and there and on differnt coasts and different states and maybe mentioned briefly if that - but the feeling I get is that these things are happening to slowly disect the modes of reliability society depends on.

Ships Collide

Food preservation is huge. You're doing everything that I can think of, especially the land part. Water sources will be important. Stores become depleted.

If you're living on aroud 15,000 right now, it may be tough but really you're blessed. It's a bit of a weening gradual process that is supporting you while you learn.

More money is wonderful don't get me wrong, but you'll have the higher end people who won't want to let on just how bad things are. They'll keep it secret to protect their own name and investments. So, that's a bottom that won't be advertised. They begin taking more and more, stealing just to keep up appearances socially, but it's this lower end that will really press people to learn about rain barrels, composting, cureing, preservations and baking, etc. Like wading into the deep end, it won't be as much of a shock as this comes to light.

Jade, it sounds like you and Ellise are very much on the same page with what you see. It's fascinating to take in what aspects each of you see most clearly. Together, you create a very clear picture. So, it seems safe to say that living in the country and quietly preparing is the best way to go to survive events to come...

Shannon, that's a good point, but Jade and Elleise are not the only ones on that page. Along with myself, I have at least 2 other friends with very similar dreams and visions.

It feels like our "guides," whatever sources, are all screaming for us to prepare. This forum is the only place I have publicized my preparations for the exact reason Jade shared. My stock piles are hidden, and only 3 friends locally know I'm storing anything. They are also preparing and may be traveling with us if we need to leave.

Jade, thank you for the information on the Containment Zones. That extended radius is something I need to review for my daughter. She lives in another state in the center of a major metropolitan area with a nearby military base. I've been working on all possible rural routes for her to get home. A few weeks ago, we helped her move. Her new apartment is in one of the most congested areas and near the intersection of 2 major highways. (unfortunately, I had no input in her choice) Now, I must revise the "book" I've been working on, "All the Roads that lead to Home." There are a few more survival items I need to get for her travel if/when it's necessary.

You stated, "At this point there is really no reason to describe my vision any further..." This past year I have been studying and meditating on my dreams. Each time I've been able to pull a few more details and additional general information. And each time, something else to add to my preparation list comes to mind. If there are any other details to your vision, please share them with us.

The information you provided will be most helpful in revising my daughter's guide book. Thinking on that, I realized we have family and friends along the various routes. Directions to their homes would be a valuable inclusion. You never know when one bit of information will lead to another part of the plan for someone. Thank you for that.

I can't tell you how greatful I am to all of the people who are slowly finding this thread and similar ones like it. It's special, to me especially, but I appreciate the fact that it's not motivated by "Doom and Gloom" but as I see it, a ship, kind of like the Titanic and a few stewards brave some unpleasant conditions, maybe even feeling fooolish, but begin, even if it's just one at first, throwing out life jackets, rafts and anything else that might help people survive.

This merges greatly with the "What do you see for the economy/environment." thread. That was started over a year ago, maybe year and 1/2.

Jade it is helpful to hear your visions and details. I know you are fairly new, but I have a real hard time with severe dyslexia and this other thing I don't even know what it is, but it blocks out words and short periods of time. So, details are very hard like names of things, plus I won't watch the news, I'm afraid it will tinge what I feel. Headlines find me here and there. So I rely more on telling people something and asking, what that is or if it makes sense. It's not a guessing game either because the visions, when they're, litterally visions, they keep coming back, no matter what I do to forget about them.

I don't know what containment zones mean exactly, but I get the same type of mile radious as far as people who need to be alert, even if they are out in the country. So 30 - 45 miles, I want to say I see people needing rifles, especially.

And this is from somewhere out coming in, but where people want to hoard guns, I get na-uh, you will want to hoard and stock up on amunition. If you have amunition great, get more. It you have both, I'd like to see bow and arrows, especially if you don't have access to guns. You'll want to take turns at some point keeping watch and although your heart may go out, trust your instincts if you do take someone in. I see people doing this thing just to get in and then, there's an adrenalin rush and the tables turn.

Network, network, network and sincerely keep your spirit family as well as physical family close.

All of the stuff the gov. currently is saying they're doing, doesn't end up doing anything, no matter the title of the bill. We will see perky healines here and there though but I see it more as one of those giant air mattresses you take on a camping trip and pricking it with a hemming pin. You don't see it at first, maybe not even weeks, if your not sleeping on it, but it's there and the support is leaking, slowly but it's there.

People can slow some of this down with checking their own sanity. If you dont' feel comfortable with something or it doesnt make sense, especially with the govt. and you're afraid of being called a racist, don't be. You'll be inevitably, with that fear and keeping silent, giving them what they want. By slowing some of this down you'll add more time onto being able to get those supplies and learning what you need to and making those preparations to weather the end of this cycle.

Gosh, o.k....this is new. It just came through, just now. Learn morse code??? HAve no idea.

Morse Code - not a bad idea - it saved the day in the movie Independence Day! I realize I'm typing on a computer connected to the internet, but there may be a time when we'll not have all this electronic connectivity, which is one of the reasons we've kept our home landline phone. An immediate shutdown of all cellular communications has been established as protocol in the event of another terrorist attack. Bombs can be set off with cell phones and this was announced by the government not too long after 9/11. Jade commented on this and cell service will be shut off in the event of a regional or national emergency. It's already planned.

We have a hand crank radio/flash light and a portable CB radio. I've had the CB for years. It still works great, has a magnetic antenna and works from a car battery. Things I've recently added to my "Wish List" are a portable solar power pack, a ham radio, and more rechargable batteries.

I'm sure some reading this will think I'm one of the most paranoid people in this country. But they haven't walked in my shoes and lived 3 weeks with no electricity and a toddler after Hurricane Hugo. They may not have lived out in the country, with no money for food, and had to fish and grow veggies. They may not have lived through a snow/ice storm with no heat.

Proofreading this, I appreciate my life experiences a little more. They have prepared me for things yet to come.

As a child i always had this feeling that the world is going to end like Mad Max movie, as i became an adult i thought i had a wierd tick with making sure my pantry is stock full with food, in case something happens you never know, thats what i always say. We don�t have it so easy here coming across guns and amo. or any type of weapon for that matter, i do have my sling shot, the way i see it it�s better than nothing. As for other survival things i�m going to start putting them together, to set aside. I will tell no one what i�m doing, i told my husband before it might be good if we had a underground bunker, he just looked at me like i�m loosing it, but i will have to try and talk him into making something of the sort.

Flower there are many things you can do without firearms to protect yourself. A watch dog, bow and arrows, if allowed. A good idea would be taking a self defense class. If you're feeling vulnerable, this might help. Many organizations sponsor such classes and some may be free or at little charge.

If you live in or near a big city, network and find someone in the country with whom you can establish a mutually beneficial relationship now. These take time to build. But in being helpful, i.e. with the garden, house maintenance, putting up food, you're not only learning, you're establishing your value as a member of close knit groups which always spring up in times of crises.

I was out in the yard earlier and finally realized something. I'm probably the last one to put this together.

I do watch the news, perhaps too much. But I don't rely on one source. I check with AP, CNN, FOX, BBC, etc and compare their presentation and information. There is "spin" but in comparing, I get a clearer picture. As others have stated here, the news is not/will not be reliable for truthful, accurate reporting of what's really going on. I firmly believe there will be censorship. Whether it's to reduce panic or hide the facts, the efforts will backfire. We've grown too accustomed to instant communication. When that flow is cut, panic will reign despite any attempts by the government to lessen it.

But what I realized this morning is some in the media are trying to get a message out and prepare us for things possibly to come. Here in the US, over a few years, there has been a dramatic increase in "survival" TV shows and movies. They include guys out in the woods, docudramas set in a pandemic, reality shows like Swamp People and The Colony. There are so many because there is an expanding audience.

Those of us with some level of ability are familiar with the dread and anxiety. We've had to learn to deal with it over the years. Many without recognized abilities are feeling it too. It's that heavy, pervasive. Watching these shows and learning survival skills perhaps provides some sense of security.

It's hard, but I watch them to glean information. I'm hoping the new Swamp People show will have good information. There are many swamps in the South, and my Grandfather grew up in one. Maybe I can reclaim knowledge not shared and now lost in our family.

One thing I HIGHLY recommend to everyone...is to place emphasis on forming or joining a network. Not just one network, but several...even if they are (x) miles from each other. Some of you reading this are thinking that you don't have any survival skills...which means no one will want you to join their network(s). That thought would be wrong! Meaning, a legitimate network manager will be able to recognize and utilize EVERYONES talents...even if they are hidden talents. The upcoming events will be very tuff but very survivable. We will be taking a huge step back wards on the technology highway. For some of you that will be okay! :-) Anyway, what I'm trying to do now is give scenarios from my visions and then apply multiple reactive plans for which individuals can use as a template of sort. Thank you for your patience...

...ALSO...I've been meaning to comment in regards to everyone's productive and positive responses to this topic. You've probably heard this quote a million times, but I'm going to say it again... "Your single most affective TOOL is your MIND!" Now what's even better than one mind...are several minds working in tandem...as a team! Caul 01/25/1969 @ 13:07 hrs

Here are a few Executive Orders that will be activated during a [b]State of Emergency[/b]...which by the way almost happened on 9/11. There are new EO's in the process of being voted in...but for now, these are going to be of importance to your planning. [b]Executive Order Number 12148[/b] created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic. [b]Executive Order Number 12656[/b] appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990[/b] allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995[/b] allows the government to seize and control the communication media. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997[/b] allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998[/b] allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000[/b] allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001[/b] allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002[/b] designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003[/b] allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004[/b] allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005[/b] allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051[/b] specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310[/b] grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049[/b] assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. [b]EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921[/b] allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation.

Wow...

We have WAY TOO MANY Federal Agencies with WAY TOO MUCH Power and Authority.

...and boy are they ready to use it. I'm not a weak person, but I sure don't want to go thru everything that is going to happen. I've had a pretty tough life and have been working toward a better second half. By the looks of things, there are even darker things to look forward to!

So, here is my question. Having a chronic illness, I have become reliant on meds just to be able to do everyday things -- something I have been dead set against, as my disdain for pharmaceutical companies runs deep (my karma ran over my dogma...?) What will happen to our medical system? Will we still have access to the medications that we need, or will this become a means of population control and to control the ill and defenseless?

Shannon, this is something I also worry about. There are chronic illnesses among my family and friends. My young nephew has a serious heart condition and will be needing another artery replacement within the next 2 years. He's only 5 and this will be a recurring need until he is fully grown.

Some medications have a very short shelf life, such as insulin. Their efficacy does lessen over time, but generally the expiration date can be as much as 12 months prior to significant degredation with capsules and pills. Find out the specifics about the medicines you are currently taking. With FDA restrictions we can't legally stockpile medicine. However, you may be able to order an extra month or two from a reputable Canadian pharmacy. It won't be covered by insurance, but would take care of your needs for a while. Alternating between your local prescription and the Canadian source would be a way to extend the shelf life of your supply.

A good friend of mine buys all her drugs from Canada and has not experienced any major problems in quality or shipping. Hope this might help a little.

Think of it this way...the upcoming event(s) are going to be a type of weed-out process. One (1) to three (3) months supply of anything critical and non-critical should be sufficient enough to last until order is re-established. I will talk more about this later. Keep in mind the word SURVIVE means: TO OUTLAST...

I'm going through these one by one and commenting.

The first thing that came to me while reading yours ICP was solar is best. I'm still trying to at least generalize time line.

There was a time when it was so emotional I couldn't even write about it. All I would say and cry at the same time was, "Oh, the people." One of those things where you keep it down inside and all of the sudden an egg you're scrambling cracks on the floor and not the pan and all this other stuff comes to the surface.

My parents don't live through this, meaning experience it. It comes later. So, that gives me some sort of a time line. They will endure pits and dips but not this thing. So they are in their 70/80's. I almost want to say 18 is near, 25, 27 it's here. But i WANT to check on this further.

But solar, you want solar. I don't see where batteries will be something freely available. The stores deplete. Unless there's a way to recharge them naturally, I want to find a nother way. Crank radio, cbs, all good.

I also want to offer solace in a way. It might feel paranoid because it isn't here yet, but when all is said and done you won't look back on it and feel the same way ((hugs))

storing (reasonably) and learning survival techniques doesn't hurt anyone. Sling shot, practice your aim, pocket knife (the ones with all of the tools and other more mature knives) are something that will help too. You might even want to stock up on some type of lighter, like the bic ones, not so much matches - they get wet and I don't know this for certain but wonder if they don't go dead after awhile. If you know how to use a flint stone, even better.

What's wierd for me, is that what I feel doesn't come like the movies or some crazed end of the world scenario, it's like little things start to happen, accumulate, there's a lot of cover up, like don't worry but you'll be the ones without ATMs, utilities, water, food, etc. You need to be able to weather these waves because the people who aren't planning end up losing their minds and won't think straight.

If you have land, start with a few herbs and grow from there, literally

That really resonates Jade - outlast...that's the reason for these "in between" people. There are almost helpers, preparers, disguised as people in the physical day in day out.

I know there are millions of others feeling it. It calls to them in a spiritual and hollistic manner. But connecting the dots and living in society is something they're slowly coming to terms with.

Outlasting gets us from here past this thing to there. Great word!

Jade, are all of these new executive orders>? do I have the wording right or execution orders. I mean have they been in place for some time or are these new. If they are new they will give me more of a time line. Thank you for your efforts.

In all of its beauty Shannon, you did come from a harsher life and the spirit (inside) is almost rebelling. May or may not make sense. But what you feel is literally eating you apart. I have some expereince with this...

What's that saying? "You can't fight crime without experienceing it" or something like that.

I know I have to put some exclaimer somewhere I just dont' know exactly how to go about doing it.

But medically speaking and this isn't to replace doctors anyone is seeing but may be able to be used in conjunction.

But, medical supplies will go through stages. They'll be hard to get, the gov gives people a way to get them and then there's a turn. That's what I feel. I can't quite get a nab on it though, because you would think that once it's set up it's ...oh

AGE

ok..need to sit on this

I grew up in the mountains of Oregon, so i�m hoping my survival knowledge doesn�t let me down. It�s a bit rusty but when it comes down to it, i have not completely forgot the things i learned from my father.
I live now in a small city with lots of woodys areas all around us, so we can also go there.
Practice and preparing.

I did a little checking on the Executive Orders Jade listed for us last night. Most of them date back to Kennedy, which makes sense as the Cold War was ramping up (Cuban Missile Crisis) These include 10990-11051. Johnson issued #11310 in 1966, Ford issued #11921 in 1976, and then Clinton consolidated a bunch of them in 1994. The Bosnia area was at war and the LA earthquake was in early 1994.

Executive Orders can provide for important changes or be simply for recognition, pardons, etc. Unlike laws passed by Congress, they are reversible, but may be useful in setting precedence or temporary seizure of power and authority.

During Clinton's 2 terms, he issued 363 Executive orders, an average of 3.78 per month. Bush issued 288 during his 2 terms for an average of 3 per month. The records for Obama I could find covered the period Jan 21, 2009 to May 21, 2010 with 54 being issued for an average of 3.38 per month.

This may seem like a lot, but many are only for recognition, such as declaring November as Native American Month (just an example, I'm not certain if that was by Executive Order or passed by Congress)

As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong) if these are not reversed, they are still in force, and current presidents can reverse executive orders issued by previous presidents.

"Oh The People" Elleise, I know exactly what you mean. When I dream about something, I also start grieving. No matter how hard I push it to the side for everyday existence, the grief can pop through and reduce me to either tears or complete numbness. Sentimental TV commercials get me every time. The numbness took over this week and I'm still fighting it. My daughter is bringing her wedding dress down on Sunday for alterations. I should be so excited, but I'm just numb. Thankfully, she knows what I'm going through first hand, and understands.

I feel guilty at times, as my grieving begins well before the event. By the time "it" happens, I am so relieved, physically and mentally. I can feel the pressure on my shoulders lift instantly. I feel guilty because it feels SO good, at a time with others are in shock and facing the grief, I've already endured. I know I shouldn't personalize this, but sometimes it's very hard not to. I was talking with a dear friend yesterday and commented, "This will happen and I'll FINALLY get some relief, but at what cost for others."

I realize my impact in prevention is nil, in altering, perhaps miniscule. But I can still try and at least be prepared to assist after "it" happens. I worked through the shock last year and dealing with the grief now. When this finally happens, hopefully I'll have a clear head. I might be a little closer than I realize. Last night I dreamed of the most beautiful, strong and healthy Bald Eagle I have ever seen. There is so much positive symbolism in that for me.

As for the portable solar generator I'm looking into, it can power several things, including my recharging station for batteries and our portable power pack. The power pack and rechargeable batteries provide additional storage, making the solar generator more productive, and the energy even more portable. These are temporary measures, as rechargable batteries of all types die eventually. But should work for a few months with a good battery supply.

We can also use the solar generator to power and recharge a few things in our small RV when we go camping. It will be useful now as well.

If I had the money...this is what I would buy: http://store.goal0.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=25&pg=1 Three simple steps: 1- Collect the power 2- Store the power 3- Use the power [url=http://store.goal0.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=25&pg=1]Goal Zero - Portable Solar Kits[/url]

So i asked my hubby if we could build a bunker, he just looked at me and shook his head, and said if we do build one then not here at our home we have to go to the woods area it better there to build one, so thats a start anyway with this part of the survival, at least he didn�t say "no".

I was reading a newsletter and it contained a banner for the website offthegridnews.com (not a link)
I looked through some of the articles and there is quite a bit of good information for several survival scenarios, both short and long term.

Reading the article on Trash disposal, I realized I need to get a new trash can with a tighter fitting lid. There is a comment to this article with instructions on how to make a life-time roof with aluminum cans. Now that's clever!

Throughout my life, I have had many prophetic dreams, visions or premonitions that have come to pass. Some that have not come to pass still haunt me to this day, a great number of them are "doomsday-type" scenarios. When I read posts like this, it resonates with me. [quote=lcp012586]"Oh The People" Elleise, I know exactly what you mean. When I dream about something, I also start grieving. I feel guilty at times, as my grieving begins well before the event. By the time "it" happens, I am so relieved, physically and mentally.... [/quote] I experience the exact same thing, that is how I distinguish the difference between a dream based on fear/turmoil/media bombardment, etc. from the dreams that are prophetic. I would like to post one of my prophetic dreams that has a lot to do with some things discussed here but I do not want to take away from this post. (I'm new... and I'm not sure where to post it) Regards, SoulSeeker

Soulseeker, after my series of dreams last year I actually posted a request for dream descriptions. I get so little information from my dreams, it's so frustrating. It's not like you can call up the FAA and say "Hey, just wanted to let you know a plane will crash into the ocean today or tomorrow." The FAA, CIA, FBI and every other letter in the alphabet would be kicking in my front door. Although prior to the crash in Sioux City someone did call them. Oh what that poor guy went through!

I've always received respect and understanding in this forum, and if your dream is similar to those already shared, perhaps this thread would be the best place to include it. You could also start a new topic, if you prefer.

Please share your dream. The more pieces to this puzzle, the better. Also, please don't skimp on the details. Jade provided information on Containment Zones and that helped me greatly with adjusting my family plan details.

With the people I know, here on Bella and elsewhere, you make #6 having similar dreams and visions. Although the content of our dreams may not be pleasant, the communication ability provided by this forum is truly exciting for me. Finally, I feel like I can help with SOMETHING, not just endure it.

Hi soul Seeker,

by all means post away. I don't know what the dream pertains to but I'm dyslexic and disorganized. So, you're kind of in good company.

You could start a new thread or topic and post it or just post it here and I can start something new for you.

Utilize those woods! Also, see if there is something you can learn about storing/coolness - like digging. How far down, what it entails, temps, curing - which really sounds complicated but isn't. Dehydrators, salt, but the cooling thing, compost, for whatever reason mushrooms would do well to be studied. Also, find your water source (not city).

lcp012586, Thank you for your reply. Here is my dream in vivid detail. This dream happened so long ago, yet the memories of it are so clear in my mind. It haunts me almost daily... but I feel there is a reason it was given to me. My dream: In my dream I heard commotion outside, when I looked out the window, the sky appeared to be swirling clouds of soot, the ominous gray clouds hung low in the eerily lit sky. Although I could not determine where the light source in the sky radiated from, in my mind, I knew it was night. As I walked out my front door, an immediate sense of danger lurked, I knew I had to be careful so nobody would see me. As my eyes made one sweeping motion up and down the street, without knowing how I knew, I realized everyone was gone. All houses were empty and there wasn't a soul in sight. Knowing I needed to get to my children and family before the military did, I started to dart across the street but abruptly stopped when I heard a military vehicle coming. As I watched from behind the bush, a man, dressed in army fatigues, walked slowly beside the military jeep. He was carrying a huge gun. I remember thinking, why would he need such a big gun? It was then that I saw the other military men raiding a house down the street; they were forcing the people out of the house, clothed in pajamas, they were flung into the street. The man with the gun motioned for them to get into a huge truck. After the jeep and the men disappeared, I ran down an alley toward my sisters house. I got half way to her house when I heard some noises coming out of a house. Fearful it was the military, I ducked behind a vehicle. I knew if they caught me, I would be going with the rest of the people in my town to the "safe-zone" they had set up. I knew it wasn't a safe zone, they were planning to hurt those people. Like sheep they were being corralled, controlled and led to slaughter. I heard a low "psssst" sound, I desperately looked around to identify where the sound originated from. Suddenly a man came out the back door of a house and motioned for me to come inside. Once inside he led me to a kitchen cabinet that had a secret trap door behind it. We quickly descended down a tiny hidden passage into a cellar where there were many other people. I knew I couldn't stay there, but I wanted to come back after I found my family and my children. I explained to them that I needed to go find my family. When I told them what street I was headed for, one of the people said, "Oh, honey, they already took everyone on that street hours ago." My heart sank but I was determined to find out if it was the truth or not. I rushed back outside, careful not to be noticed and continued down the alley toward my sisters house. As I rounded the last corner, my heart wrenched with pain, I realized they were all gone. Somehow, I knew that I must find them at the camp where they took them. I went back to the house and did the secret knock on the cabinet door. With pity in their eyes, they welcomed me back to their hidden sanctuary. We all slept in the cellar, it was small but seemed plenty big enough for all that were present. I curled up on a cot to sleep but sleep didn't come until the first sign of daybreak. We stayed awake, intently listening for any sounds from above because the military did their raids during the night. When we had slept a couple of hours we all awoke and began discussing who would scout the neighborhoods for food. There were a few supplies but with the number of people, we knew we needed a lot more. Even if the food was rationed, which we knew it would be, it wouldn't last long. One couple agreed to go out to the surrounding houses and collect any food and supplies they could find. Shortly after they left, we heard footsteps, screaming and rustling coming from upstairs. Everyone in the small cellar was suddenly still. We waited breathlessly for the cabinet door to fly open and the military to descend upon us. The shouts were muffled but we could make out what they were saying, they wanted to know if anyone else was in the house and if so, they should turn them in. The couple didn't crack, they were hauled away quickly. The man who originally invited me into the cellar shelter wanted to go up to the cabinet to look. I was fearful, dreading but I, also, wanted to make sure they were gone. We needed supplies and food, someone was going to have to go out there. He looked at me and motioned with a nod toward the passageway that led out of there. I shook my head yes to let him know I would go with him to search for the supplies. He motioned for me to follow him. As we reached the top of the landing, we quietly slid through the back hatch of the cabinet. Fear gripped me as I felt my body go rigid. Sounds of heavy footsteps echoed through the air. The soldiers had returned, I thought. The cabinet door was slightly ajar exactly how the couple must have left it. The sunlight shined through the crack and illuminated the darkness but I couldn't move for fear of making a noise that would alert the intruders. I stood completely still peeking through the crack. I was shocked to see the disturbance was not caused by the military men, it was the local police. "What?" I thought, "has everyone gone completely mad?" If the few of us in the basement knew what was going on, why didn't anyone else? Surely everyone isn't blind to the lies they are telling, I thought. When the police passed by the cabinet, one turned around, looked through the crack and directly into my eye that was more than likely visible by the illuminated light of the bright kitchen. I held my breath thinking he would alert the others about my presence. A police officer with him stopped at the cabinet door, as he reached for the knob, I held my breath and closed my eyes. Quickly the main officer said, "There's no one else here, lets move on." His men followed his orders and left the kitchen. As he got to the door, after everyone else was out of sight, he turned around to the cabinet, smiled and nodded at me. I closed my eyes, thankful that the officer moved the men out quickly so we would not be found. I woke up. I had this dream back sometime between 1995-1996 and the details are still nagging my mind.

Actually this kind of ties into this thread unless you'd like for me to make it a seperate log.

It might make you feel a bit better, but I can't count the number of people I'm running into that have, not just dreams but reactions to things they go out into the day, working, meeting friends and family, but keeping it down-low.

They start out having a distant almost preoccupied sense of being. They are usually loners, but not in a bad way or anthing. The opposite. They get things. They are people that can simpify the most worded circumstance with a point blank a.b.c.

They do talk about dreams, recrurring, though and not much changes. If it does change there's an underlying sensation that goes along with it.

I guess all of this makes for a good book.

Hello Eleise I'm not dyslexic or disorganized but I am sometimes scatterbrained so that could make me look like I'm a little of both =)

If you think it fits here.. than I am comfortable with it being here. The only way I know it is prophetic is because of the nagging, nauseating feeling I get from these types of dreams. I too have been a loner most of my life because of the abilities I have to foresee upcoming events. One dream I had was of the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. It occurred two weeks prior to the date of the accident. When I awoke from my dream, I told my husband and daughter the exact details. I knew it was prophetic because it was accompanied with the same feeling I always get when a dream will come true. The day we watched the news coverage of the disaster, it didn't dawn on me until about an hour into the news program. They interviewed a man who described my dream EXACTLY, almost word for word, the way I described it two weeks prior. In my dream, I saw the disaster two weeks before him from his own eyes. The grief and anxiety for me comes because the details of the dream were not crystal clear. Instead of space shuttle debris, I convinced myself that it must be fragments of a meteor crashing to the earth. Guilt followed because I didn't figure it out and try to warn someone.

Soulseeker, Thank you so much for sharing your dream. I've often wished there was a record somewhere we could refer to. Another point in history when people all over had similar dreams which were shared, compared, and useful information was gleaned that eventually helped many.

The difference between how the military and local police acted in your dream is a detail to consider. In your dream, you stumbled on a network, already set up, which may have included the police officer who kept the hiding place secret. I think this is an important detail. Elleise and others have lovingly reminded, for over a year now, to network widely. Being a part of several networks may be valuable.

Your dream is so comparable to others, for me, it's yet another validation. Thank you again.

Your experience with the Columbia disaster is a mirror to what I experienced prior to the Lockerbee crash. I mistook one of the plane engines for a bomb. I was standing beside a lone tree in a field as I watched it fall. Several days later, a camera crew was filming from that exact spot as the engine was lifted by a crane. It was the closest they could get to the debris area. I can still see that field and lone tree clearly in my mind, all these years later.

Our brains try to apply logic to what we see. Perhaps this is why we can misidentify things in our dreams. It's happened to me. In the past, I had no other source of information to assist in correcting this, which is one of the reasons I'm so thankful for this forum and the additional information we're gathering.

lcp, I have often wished, hoped for, the same thing. So much information is scattered widely over the internet that if we finally figured it out and compiled all the information, it unfortunately may be too late to help many. But history, if you take note, is really all we need in order to be prepared for something of this magnitude. Most, unfortunately, are so into what is going on around them that they forget to pay attention to what is going on within. I have met with harsh criticism when I try to forewarn some people about something I was given in a vision or dream. But they are thankful when all is said and done that I saved them from peril or even death. My dream occurred before internet access was so widely used. After I did get my first computer and internet connection (1997-1998), I began searching for similar experiences/people/information/etc that I could compare notes with but I found very few. The dream - - - Interesting you picked up on the reaction of the police officer, I did forget to mention that my 'gut feeling' about him was that he knew the truth about what was going on, he was one of 'us' so he protected us from the other officers. Although he was in a position of authority, he was only doing it to help people like us who were close to being caught.

I have warned others also, but they just look at me as if i�m crazy and don�t believe me anyway, so i keep it to myself. Other than the people here in this forum nobody listens to me. Thats sad that nobody wants help, but i don�t know what else to do.

I just want to thank all of you who have shared here on Ellise's forum. I have had horrible vivid dreams where I have been in dangerous peril, hiding in the rain outside in muddy areas against walls, yet miraculously shielded by people I didn't even know. I should pay more attention to these dreams. You all have validated my feelings of things to come.

Thank you for this Ellise. I do feel such a paradox going on...I was born with the understanding that we are all of the same source...love and growth and beauty. But what a harsh world I found to greet me. I have always been an optimist, but as of late, I feel somber. I feel the need to greet reality with the heart of a tiger. But such sadness it is laced with. The place I came from...and now this place...such a horrific contrast, yet always, the need to forge on. Only thing I don't understand is the illness I'm faced with. How am I to be strong, when my body is so fragile? Meds are bringing me back to life...but without them, I am putty. All I can do is trust, prepare and attract people who "see". Humbly, I thank you...for being you.

lcp, For a very long time, I wondered and searched my own self as to why I was given the details of the Columbia disaster since I was unable to warn anyone or alter the outcome? For me, that is the worst. To know something and stand helplessly by while others suffer because I do not get all the details or because the details are skewed is painfully frustrating for me. For weeks after the incident, I grieved the loss of those people because I somehow felt personally connected to them. I can still remember the dream as if I awoke from it mere seconds ago. I'm sure you experience the "If Only..." and the "What Ifs.." in the aftermath of some of these experiences. You mentioned, "a camera crew was filming from that exact spot as the engine was lifted by a..." I've had similar experiences as that. Watching the news coverage of something immediately after I've had, what I call, a flash vision. A flash vision is what I refer to when visions fly through your mind at a phenomenal speed where you are only able to collect bits and pieces of the information until the actual event takes place. It's as if you were seeing, from the exact same view, before it happens through the camera. Sometimes I have thought of my talents/abilities as a curse because of the traumatic effect the aftermath has on my mind and soul but if I could change that about me, I never would because the greater majority of time, I am able to use it in a very positive manner.

Prior to the my "Quiet time" beginning in May 2000 and ending a year ago, I unfortunately learned after the incident that I was connected personally to those involved. I was in grief counseling when the plane exploded over Lockerbee. My counselor was very interested in my dreams and mistook the Mother/Daughter connection in one to represent Me and My Mother. I kept telling her no, it wasn't us. That evening I got home, turned on the TV and got instant relief on my shoulders and instant guilt in my heart. IT had happened, just a few days before Christmas, and I could enjoy the Holiday. I was so happy/relieved, I called my couselor at home. It didn't help with the guilt to learn her college roommate's daughter was on the plane.

This was not the only personal connection made over the years, but there was not a thing I could have done in any of them. I learned quickly I could not "What if...." after the fact. That's keeping myself in the past and the negative. I have not experienced any "Flashes" in the past year, but did frequently prior to 2000. It's fine if they don't return. They would pop up within hours of the event. Although over quickly, they left me feeling even more helpless and confused.

I don't think any of us fully understand how or why we have these "connections." I don't, but it's a part of me I accept and have longed for the time when I can use it for something positive, as Elleise has for years. Perhaps that time is now.

Shannon, if you can share any further details from your dreams, please do.

The "Quiet Time" has never come for me. From the time I was a small girl, I've had numerous experiences with this stuff. My father would become so frustrated with my abilities because he believed what I possessed was not of God. Although it took me years to fully accept my gifts, they have never really let up. Usually the "Flash" comes and shortly afterward the event takes place, there is hardly time to prepare, plan or forewarn anyone. I've come to terms with this most of the time because I have been able to save lives that otherwise may have been lost. 5% of the time it is a vision that I am given to save a life, 50% of the time it is strictly personal - something meant for me which causes me to alter my path and the rest of these visions come/go and I can do nothing to change the results. As selfish as it may sound, you were right, it IS a relief when the event actually happens because of the mental and emotional toll it has on you.

I've been called crazy by people who refuse to come out of their stubborn shell and accept things I tell them. My opinion - - - I continue to let them (and others like them) think what they wish about me but I want a clean conscious so I will continue to use my gift to help those I can. Never grow weary of well doing =)

Shannon, I came into this world with much the same understanding. I retained that understanding and over the decades have been met not only with harsh criticism, but just plane meanness. This particular experience with life has just broken my heart.

I'm no saint, by any means and there is a lot of frustration. But my cargo within carries pure, litterally radiant love, especially with those close. There is the desire for healing of people, wanting to help, protect, dry tears, offer understanding and insight when someone comes to me and is pain.

On the outside, it's met with scoffing, alienation, criticism especially from my in-laws. It's boring that I don't find it interesting to play 7-14 hours of video games during my spare time and I don't conform very well to dysfunctional relationships or people for that matter. I can't seem to find the point.

I've even made myself watch Maury Povich just to see what it is that is so tantalizing about a woman that cheats on you again and again and again and makes person keep going back for more - or man for that matter. My world is left is left, right is right and that makes a lot of people very, very uncomfortable.

The dreams and feeling (physical and emotional) are so true. There's nothing you can do about them either. Thanks for sharing that.

I find myself even at crossroads at times as to what is the difference? What's the point of going on with this. In the Medium, Allison turns to alcohol to drown it all out. I can certainly understand why.

I had a cancer/type lymphosite thing going on with me about 10 years ago. I was told they weren't able to say exactly what it was because it didn't follow all of the familial traits of the cancers known. I asked point blank why the doctor wouldn't put a name to it. You know what he said,?

"Because if I do and it's not that, then you can turn around and sue me. But you need to make arrangements." Nice.

SOOOoooooo, ya. I turned ot the inside. What made sense - because everything and everybody in my life didn't. I realized we had BIO-chemistry before synthetic. That and that I also realized we are like 80% water or more...I don't know. So, 70 gallons of water a week, herbs, teas and cheese??????

My feet and arms were curling up and everything in my body hurt. My hair was falling out. I couldn'thold a toothbrush and I stuttered. It took 8 months and a lot of visual techniques and I got better. This was all durning an abusive relationship, so no support whatsoever. My husband then actually stepped over my body when I collapsed at our lake.

If I can come back from that, I just know you can too

Eleise, You are an incredibly strong woman. I admire your courage =)

Caulbearer11, you mentioned you would share more on the "Weeding out" process and preparations. I hope you can share that soon.

Thank you for sharing these things. You have no idea what it's like, maybe actually you do, but in general, seeing these things when everyone around you is doing this and that and you can see past that, but you're a big bummer. Not so much that you're talking about it, but your frame of mind is preoccupied.

The inner-city thing is crucial. It's like watching WWII and currently, nobody think it's their time in that sense. That is what will be...almost like animals, if not literally. The media helps with civil wars leading up to this, but it's the illusion of the inner-city entitlement and inbred anger that puts it over the top. They don't feel anything but survival and anger. So be it. That is what was is cultured and ends up driving that storm.

What is P-control? Since I was maybe 18 I've always felt and been drawn to again and agian, private water source. As I type this I get contaminates. Do you get that? Some intentional, some because other utilities have failed.