I think that one of the things that makes it irreprehensible is, ok for one example. In California, the courts will soon be hearing arguments against the proposition that voters passed banning gay marriage. Their claim is that the voters of California violated the civil rights of a vulnerable minority.
What about the voters civil rights? The general public that is not in this supposed minority has had their civil rights violated also because of the gay rights movement has been trying to push this down the throats of Americans for a long time now.
In America, you have rights as long as you don't infringe upon others' rights. There is no real separation of church and state and that has nothing to do with this argument.
If they state that the voters had no right to vote on this, then what rights do we have? Do we have to consistently cave in to this movement all the time?
No. We as Americans are allowed to have our opinions and this is a very serious moral issue for this country.
It's not just some little thing in context to civil unions.
You act as if you have no rights. And seeing as how alot of votes changed many things in many states in regards to banning gay marriage, I am glad for it.
At least America finally recognizes that this is a large scale potential problem that if allowed would also open our doors to other things such as a fight to have polygamy recognized, etc.
Do you think this would not happen. Marriage is a sacred foundation between a man and a woman. This is not ancient Rome and Greece.
Allow us to have our opinions. If we disagree with your lifestyle, then we have that right. Just as they feel in California, that the voters had no right to vote NO.
At least my friends that are gay know my opinions and they do respect them. I like them for who they are but they don't shove their ways on me.
It saddens me that you feel you have no civil rights, because you are very wrong in that aspect.
And in the bible, it does say that man should not lie with man and woman should not lie with woman.
That is a fact........
Bahrain, you are of course entitled to your opinions as are all Americans.
You say that we in the gay and lesbian community are wrong to feel that we have no civil rights. I don't feel as though I have NO civil rights but it is pretty clear that my civil rights are much more limited than those of my heterosexual counterparts. Yes, I technically have access to all of the same benefits of marriage as you do, but only if I pretend to be something I am not by marrying someone of the opposite sex.
All this nonsense about defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman implies that the most important feature of a marriage is not the love shared between two people but rather the gender of those people. It is a blatant attempt to deliberately exclude an entire community of minorities from accessing the personal, legal, and social benefits of civil marriage that should ideally be available to ALL Americans rather than to just the heterosexual ones.
You also said: "In America, you have rights as long as you don't infringe upon others' rights. There is no real separation of church and state and that has nothing to do with this argument."
You are right about the first statement and very wrong about the second. You are correct in noting that no one should be able to infringe upon the rights of others and yet, you seem to support legislation that does just that. Though I agree with you that separation of church and state is more of a theory than it is a practice in this country, it is what our forefathers insightfully intended and with good reason. Also, it has everything to do with this argument because those who oppose gay marriage and gay relationships in general usually do so based on religious principles. Since our constitution allegedly provides us with freedom of religion, there is no reason why religious principles should be used as the basis for our laws. The bible does in fact speak against homosexuality, I do not dispute that. However, you should keep in mind that while the bible may have strong meaning for you personally and others like you, there are those of us who don't share those sentiments.
Lastly, since you got to vote on my marriage, does that mean that I am also entitled to vote on yours or is that just another right reserved only for heterosexuals?
The election in this regard was disheartening but I still have faith that love and tolerance will eventually prevail. I know that legally recognized or not, I recently married the love of my life and no matter how many times people vote on our love, no law on this planet will ever be able to take that away from us.