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Yes we can and yes we did!!

Meet and greet the new president. Thank God.


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Kimberly, we are in a beautiful time in America. smile

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The sun does seem to be shining a little brighter this morning laugh

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Originally Posted By: Shay_LoveYourTummy
Kimberly, we are in a beautiful time in America. smile

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Yes, we are Shay and and its definitely time we, the positive, come on over to the beautiful side (this forum) because the negativity in the Republican forum is sickening. Its so sad, really. I never, ever want to become that bitter about anything or anyone. Never. Their negativity is like a disease and if you don't get out quick, you'll catch it and that's a promise.

Everytime I visit in there, I leave with my stomach in knots. Ughhh!


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No it is not a beautiful time for America...I am sorry atleast 55 million American's whole heartedly disagree with that statment. We believe that this is the darkest time America has ever been in and will be in. We believe that Obama is a false messiah that the black people are almost in worship of as well as others who are deceived. We also believe that he is the farthest left person in the whole Senate...who is going to take this country down. His false ideas of socialism which eventually lead to communism make him a marxists. Which will in turn turn this country into a third world country.

We don't believe his rhetoric, he has proven over and over again that he lies. "NO, I didn't know that my black hate preacher preached hate against America or whites." "NO I didn' know that William Ayers the unrepentant terrorists bombed and killed 8 people in America and got away with it, I was only 8 years old. Wrong, he sat on the board with him and gave speeches with him and wrote a blurb in his book in 1997-2002. Which during that time it has been stated clearly that William Ayers stated he wasn't sorry for setting the bombs neither and wished he had done more.

Lou Farahran a muslim stated that when the Messiah speaks the youth will listen. Oprah called him "The One." And he himself has said he is the "Anointed One." Do you know anything about the end times. Biblical prophecy. Well, it is coming true right before your very eyes and you do not even see it. Yes it is truly a sad day and time in America. I feel sorry for the black church who are totally fooled by this guy and voted him in. They will have to give an account to God on this. Obama is for abortion even up till the 4th term. He voted 4 times NO on the born alive protection act which enables a medical doctor to help keep the infant alive after a botched abortion. He voted NO. Which means just let the baby die. So if you are a good person with a heart and not just looking a color but the heart of a person, you would see that he is not who he is claiming to be. A unifier, a peace person. He is a false messiah and a divider. There are more people now divided because of him than any other person in America. Besides Colin Powell. So you are on the wrong side my dear. he is more of a NO we won't person if you really look at his true rhetoric. Just open your eyes.

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Dear Kimmie,

There are over 55 million American's who will not greet or meet the new President. We do not see him as qualified to run the most important seat in America. We also see him as taking this country down the wrong path of socialism. He has far left views and is even for abortion up till the 4th term. He voted No 4 times on the Born Alive Protection Act, which enables a child to receive medical help who is born alive after a botched abortion. He is not the change America needs or wants. The blacks, the hispanics, because of the promises made from this man voted him in. Along with ACORN who helped with the fradulant votes. So really we are not joining with you and your friends and never will. Eventually your eyes will be opened, trust me and you will see that he doesn't keep any of his promises that got him there, and he isn't your black messiah.

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I guess I was wrong in hoping that all the negative arguing would settle down once the election was over. frown

Everyone, please remember that this is the Independent parties forum. That doesn't mean that this is a place to come to debate Republican and Democrat policies in a neutral zone. This is a place to talk about the parties such as Green, Libertarian, etc.

Kimmie, you are right that the Republican area is not going to be terrible supportive of Obama. Even after the election that is just not going to happen. He was the Democrat's delegate, so the Democratic Party forum is probably the best place for celebration.

Although I do firmly believe that one we have elected a President (whether he was the one I voted for or not) - then as an American, it is my place to support him and the rest of my government.

Jenilyn, I understand that you feel passionately anti-Obama - but these issues have already been debated ad-nauseum on here. It is of course your right to not support Obama and to believe about him what you will - but please do not attack other members on these forums.


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I wasn't attacking, just tired of hearing the same rhetoric from people about how great a day it is with obama as President. I didn't know this was a liberatrian site. I just stated what I believe. I know I sounded critical or judgmental and I probably was. I am just really concerned about people who are so pro-obama. I just don't think they really understand the severity of the situation. I am sorry if it sounded like an attack. I do not see anywhere that is a green, or liberatarian site...where does it say that. The title says Obama Obama! I have freedom of speech still? Or has obama changed that as well,

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Originally Posted By: Kimmie08

Yes, we are Shay and and its definitely time we, the positive, come on over to the beautiful side (this forum) because the negativity in the Republican forum is sickening. Its so sad, really. I never, ever want to become that bitter about anything or anyone. Never. Their negativity is like a disease and if you don't get out quick, you'll catch it and that's a promise.

Everytime I visit in there, I leave with my stomach in knots. Ughhh!


I just love what you said, here Kimmie. You know, until this election year, I have never been much for paying attention to politics. Well, I guess in the past I knew I wasn't a Republican, but I never really knew any. Not to say that all Republicans are negative, but I must say, that to read most of the posts in the Rep. forums here is a lesson in true negativity.

Let us feel grateful that we can freely express our celebration that America finally has a "coming together place" in Obama.

The day after the election, I felt this enormous weight being lifted. I don't mean just off from myself, but from the world. When I mentioned it to a wise person who is very close to me, she said that she felt it too, and felt that it might be partly because of the negative energy from other nations of the world against us, being switched to positive. Such gratitude I feel that a part of us, both within and outside of our countries racial and "class" divides, has been so liberated. It only matters what we feel. It isn't our job to make others realize what is happening, only to embrace it ourselves. Besides, they will never understand the opression in its many forms, that we have felt over the years - "for everything, there is a season..." smile

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Shay,

What you felt wasn't peace but defeat. The countries now know that they can do pretty much anything they want. They do not fear Obama..remember Biden's remark. That in the firs 6 mos. of Obama's presidency he will be tested from other countries. And he may not make the right decision but we need to stand with him. Even other people in other countries know that he is not going to be strong on the miliatry front. This country is in the biggest trouble ever. If anything that you felt was a shift from God being over America and now letting America have a false Messiah over it. People who are deceived will be more deceived by this guy...and then the end. Read Revelations

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