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Lol Nann....these little guys are never very coordinated to begin with..lol...all it takes is a little 'breeze' to knock them over...haha!

Hello all. I come bringing sad, sad news.

We've lost Roy - my wife's favorite frog. He was fine yesterday - and even earlier this evening I saw nothing wrong with him. Then I happened to look into the bottom of the tank (a habit now that we've lost one other already) and lo and behold, Roy was belly-up.

As I attempted to remove him from the tank he MOVED slightly. We've moved him and the other two to a holding tank but the prognosis is not good. I seriously doubt he'll survive throughout the night.

Our amonia levels refuse to dip below toxic, no matter what we do. 25%, 50% water chantges - stress-zyme up the wazoo... our nitrate and all aother issues were nil but we could never get the damn tank to cycle and could NOT get the amonia levels to drop. To make things worse, we thought we were helping the frogs by making sure to vaccuum the rocks when cleaning the tank but that, we've just discovered, counteracts any attempts you've made to lower amonia levels. In the end I feel we made the tank a toxic deathbed rather than a home. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

We have decided to keep the other two in the sick tank for a while to see if that helps. My wife still has hope that Roy will be alive in the morning but I think we both know the reality of the situation.

I just thought I'd share the news. I'll update more as the issue continues.

MR. AKA

Ak, sorry to hear about Roy, but who knows, frogs are amazing critters...

I am not that knowledgeable about cycling since most of my tanks are one gallon betta homes..I just do frequent water changes on them. Maybe you could just let that tank set for awhile with the filter going and see what happens to the levels. I know there is a way to cycle a tank with no fish in it by using an ammonia source..some use a piece of hamburger others just add regular ammonia to the tank....since your tank is so full of ammonia already maybe if you just let is set and keep an eye on the levels....it will take care of itself and when it does you'll have a fully cycled tank. As long as there are no animals in the tank I don't think you need do water changes during this process.

AKA,
My sympathies on the loss of your frogs. It's tough when all you want to do is care for them. I've lost a few along the way myself. I hope Roy makes it.

Nan

Thank you both.

However, Roy passed away last night. After a brief eulogy and some hushed prayers we buried him at sea.

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Mr. AKA

On another note, I spoke with someone today who suggested getting a few small fish such as Neon Greens or White Clouds to help lowqer the amonia levels. I may do that and see what I can do before I even contemplate buying more frogs.

No sense in sentencing more to an undeserved death.

Danios also are a good fish to use for cycling a tank....they are very hardy but you need to get them as a goup of at least 4, 6 is better as they are a schooling fish.

Good luck there Ak ! <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Just checking to see if I can link a picture from another site to here. I have another forum I go to that allows you to upload pictures to your profile page.

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This is a pic of my fire bellied newts home. Most of the time they hang out on top under a plant I have in there. I also have a female betta down in the bottom..the one that didn't get along well in the tank with my other females.

I did have two ADFs in there but they kept snapping at the fish and I was afraid they'd make a meal of her. The water level doesn't allow her to get up beyond thier reach.

Yeah it worked ! <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Now I don't have to keep piling up the pics at the rate a fish site..lol...

ADF's snapping at your fish???? how big were they? are you sure they were ADF's and not african clawed frogs instead? (the two can EASILY be mistaken until they reach full size) ADF's will "attempt" to defend themselves from your fish if necessary though due to thier size they have little luck at this (which is why they need plenty of hiding places) but african clawed frogs will get larger and eventually eat anything small enough to fit in their mouths, including small fish

anita

Lol anital...no, they are ADF's and they're not that big but they do snap at just about anything that moves...piggy little things. I actually feed them freeze dried tubefex worms by hand...to try and keep the girls(my female bettas) from taking it away from them.

I've seen those clawed frogs and they're ugly..and get way huge! These have webbing between their front feet and also don't have the buggy eyes that the clawed frogs have..