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How did he (Obama) get this far? #434443
07/10/08 05:43 PM
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The last time I checked, we live in the greatest country in the world. What on Earth is this man thinking? (I found this clip on youtube)

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Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: whoisjohngalt] #434448
07/10/08 05:52 PM
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I am appalled that someone who is running for President of our country could treat our flag and what it stands for in such a manner. Is that not an open sign to the world that he has no respect for our flag and our country? Was it my imagination or did Hillary and the others seem embarrassed?


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Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: Phyllis Doyle Burns] #434457
07/10/08 06:11 PM
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I don't care anymore because after Big Media and Big Money floated him into the nomination I decided to change my political affiliation at the earliest possible opportunity allowed by my state. I am looking at the New American Independent Party.

Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: real tweet] #434489
07/10/08 08:46 PM
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people people people... he is not refusing to salute the american flag. When the national anthem is played, you are to stand in respect. When the pledge of allegience is recited, then you put your hand over your heart. People have made a mountain out of a mole-hill and over NOTHING. I don't put my hand over my heart for the national anthem. Some people do, but it is NOT required.

there are more important issues out there than whether someone put their hand over their heart for the national anthem. Let's not worry about that. Let's worry about outrageous gas prices, the housing crises, the value of the dollar, etc etc etc

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Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: Lady J] #434492
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Well said Jase,


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agreed jase and excellent point about the national anthem difference.

Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: Jilly] #434518
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I understand the difference between the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem. But, did you notice, that out of respect, everyone else there put their hand over their heart? I always do, and, although I am sure some do not do that, I have never seen someone who is running for President, not do it.

Maybe I am overreacting, but, I just think it is done out of respect, like everyone else on the platform did. I see it as a sign of either stubborness or rebellion since everyone else there put their hand over their heart.


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there was an interview where someone asked him why he didn't when everyone else did. He said, I never do. It is not decorum to do so, and I was taught not to like most other american school children. He said he does for the pledge, but not for the anthem as I stated why I didn't either.


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Re: How did he (Obama) get this far? [Re: Lady J] #434553
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Well, I do not know where he went to school at, but most Americans I know and all the kids I went to school with were taught to put their hand over their heart, like all the other Americans in that video with Obama did. Of course, to each his own. I just see it as a sign of disrepect, but, then most of us to what we were raised to do.


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hand over the heart for the anthem or the pledge. Anywhere I have ever been asked us to stand for the playing of the national anthem.


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