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I was dx'd about 15 years ago. I'm on Effexor -- the maximun dose -- but I'm still struggling with depression. I know the times when I'm REALLY down are triggered by events in my life, but even when there's nothing "big" going on, I feel just barely okay. I never feel happy or up.

This can't be normal. Normal people don't feel like this ALL the time. I have a psychiatrist who monitors my medication, but I need to see someone different because I've lost trust in this doctor (relating to another med she had me on... long story).

I'm an empty nester with a son in college. I'm unable to work due to disability. And my husband and I are going through a divorce. (The divorce was my decision because he's totally irresponsible with money and was driving us deeper and deeper in debt. Believe me, we tried our best but just couldn't stay together.)

Can anyone recommend another medication that works but has few side effects?

Or any other suggestions? I just can't keep living like this.


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I have done alot of research on natural remedies to help with depression and anxiety, and came across one that I was thinking of trying - amoryn is the name of it - try that website - it has lots of testimonials you can read and gives the ingredients etc - good luck, hope you find something that will work well for you. talk to your doctor about it first though.

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Hi Joyseeker..
I would defintely find another psych doc if you aren't comfortable with the one you're on now. Don't try any "natural" remedies or take yourself off the Effexor until you do. I've struggled with depression since I was 8 years old. I've been med free and doing well for several years now, so there is hope! The med that worked for me was Celexa. I will tell you that all antidepressants have side effects, most do go away after a few weeks. Are you seeing a therapist as well? If not you should be, it can really help. Most of all, don't be too hard on yourself. You're going through a very stressful time right now and a lot of what you're feeling could indeed be a normal reaction to that.
Best of luck!!


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I recently stopped taking Effexor and am on Welbutrin now. I had taken effexor for over 5 years and also was on the maximum doseage of Effexor and I had told my doctor some days I felt like I was getting a placebo. Some days I felt like I couldn't face another day. It has been a month since my medication change and I feel a lot better. The only thing I would have to complain about is that I seem to be very weepy, but then again I have always been one that is easy to cry. I guess that I have just missed being like that since I was on the effexor. The effexor had also pretty much ended my sex drive. That has become way better on the welbutrin.

Maybe try a new dr.? I think it is important that you feel confident in your dr's abilities.


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I was on Zoloft, and that seemed to work for me at the time.


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On Wed. I'm going to see a friend who works at the clinic where my doc is, and I'm going to ask him who he would recommend for a new doc. I've brought up Wellbutrin to this current doc a number of times (because I've heard some people lose weight on it and I've GAINED weight with Effexor) but she always says NO. I've been on Effexor for a long time; started on it in the late 90s for my fibromyalgia pain and it's been very helpful for that. But sometimes I wonder if it's just lost it's effectiveness on my depression.

I know the transitions I'm going through have a lot to do with this, but it's hard to make any progress on anything. It's hard to think straight and get motivated to do things and make decisions when you're feeling like this.

Thank you to all for your kind words. Connie, did you switch right over to the Wellbutrin or did you have to taper off the Effexor first?

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Joy...I had to taper off my dosage. It took me a couple of weeks to do this. I didn't know at the time but Effexor is also a migrane medication and I had the worst migranes coming off my doseage. After my dr. told me this I realized I had not had a migrane headache in a LONG time. After finding out about this I was able to adjust my diet/ect and I have not had any more migranes. So it could be that it wasn't coming off the meds that caused the migrane but just me not being careful to avoid my migrane triggers. I also have gained weight on effexor and was hoping to lose some weight with welbutrin, but so far I haven't lost any weight but just feeling better has been so great. I can't tell you how much better I feel and I wish I would've talked to my dr. sooner. I didn't add this earlier, but since starting the welbutrin I have had some really weird/creepy dreams. But I figure it is a small price to pay to feel better. Good luck finding a new dr. Don't give up, keep looking until you find a dr you are confident.


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It's really encouraging to hear that there ARE meds out there which can help you to feel better. smile Looks like I just have to find the right doctor.

I'm not surprised to hear you gained weight also -- I've heard of others who have gained weight on Effexor. I've talked to my current doc about that many, many times and she always insists that Effexor is not a "weight-gainer" as she put it.

The biggest problem I've had with her has been over Trazodone. I had nightsweats for a year and nobody could explain why. I'm talking about waking up soaking wet and getting up to change night clothes EVERY night, several times a night. I was completely exhausted. My reg doc and my gyn tested me for everything they could think of but nothing showed up so they pinned it on perimenopause (of course). I began to suspect my meds and tried going off Trazodone for a week. The nightsweats instantly stopped. I told my p-doc who refused to believe it. "Trazodone DOESN'T cause night sweats." Of course the proof was in the pudding, as they say. And I also asked 3 dif pharmacists who ALL told me Traz leaves the body thru the skin, hence nightsweats.

I'm definitely talking to John tomorrow and seeing a new doc.

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Finding the right dr is most of the battle I think. I hope you find one that you like really soon.

I am glad you found out what was causing your nightsweats. There is nothing more irriatating than your dr not listening to you!


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Years and years ago, my doctors started me on prozac (along with other meds) because of serious migraines since I was a child. The prozac was supposed to act like a preventative med. It did help, but I also noticed that it helped keep my emotions from being very high or very low. I told the doctor this and he said that I suffered from depression. I said I wasn't depressed. He said I did not have to be depressed to suffer from depression then explained the chemical imbalance and symptoms. I realized that some of my family had depression, but they self medicated with alcohol (or drugs).

Anyway, I had a stroke a few years ago and after all the tests, they discovered that I had a hole in my heart since birth. They fixed the hole (ASD) a year and a half ago and many doctors and researchers believe that ASD's might cause migraines. I don't have migraines anymore, thank God, but that is a different subject. After the stroke, I really did not need the prozac for migraines, but I needed it for depression from the health issues I now had.

During the year since surgery, the prozac was not working any more; felt like a placebo, just like you said, Connie. When I talked to my doctor, she said they can build up in your system and we could try another kind, in the same family, I think. She started me on Lexapro. I noticed a big difference the first few weeks, but by the time I saw her again by the 4 week check up, it just wasn't doing enough. She said she could add something else to take in the afternoon and see how that worked out. She added Welbutrin and it has been the PERFECT combination for ME. She did say that there are many kinds of meds that we could try and not to give up. I was just lucky that this worked.

I have had the same problem with weight (it really is the age, I think), the sex "thing" or lack thereof, (I guess we just have to be more creative to keep them interested! ), wink the sleep disturbances (the dreams are weird but sometimes really cool; at least I'm dreaming again!), and sometimes I have mood swings that leave people around me raising their eyebrows or scratching their heads. I think all anti-depressants have side effects, but if they work on the primary reason for taking them with the least amount of side effects, I call that a success.

Joyseeker, you certainly have 3 of the MAJOR issues that are always being identified as health issues for the heart and the mind: life-style changes (with empty nest symptom), money issues plus not being able to work due to a disability, anddealing with a divorce. It's no wonder that you are having a little trouble dealing. I think that you must be a pretty strong woman to be able to expend the energy to actually come on Bella and discuss your issues. Good for you! Keep it up! Connie and others have given you good advice.

It really is a great idea to also couple a therapist with your psychiatrist. A therapist can get you to talk about things that we have no way of knowing how to start here. You can always come back here and discuss them with us, if you want to. We'd be glad to hear what a therapist can add to meds. Don't be afraid to change doctors, either. If you don't feel comfortable with your doctor, or you just don't like him (or her), by all means, find another one! I had the same male doctor for about 12 years but luckily, I had changed to a female doctor who seemed to listen, with more concern, about 4 years before I had my stroke and heart issues. She was really quick in getting me all the help I needed. So don't be shy. Make a change. Pick a doctor that will be good for you!

God bless you, joyseeker, and may He help you find some peace. smile

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The thing that irks me is that medications do not affect everyone the same. And there is always going to be at least one person who has a side effect that is diffferent from what is in the literature. That's why prescriptions have the wording "or any other side affects not listed here..."

If this doc is unwilling to even listen to differing side affects - then you definitely need to change! Psychiatrists seem to get the "God Syndrome" even worse than surgeons sometimes! smirk


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I dont like trazadone, my mother used to take it for depression, and i am sure it made her worse, it didnt make her any better. I took imipramine for a short while, and i found that very good with few side effects.


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I think I forgot to mention that I do see a therapist. I saw one about 15 years ago or so when my h and I first had problems in our marriage and she was wonderful.

Then when he and I finally split up 4 years ago, I called her again but she had retired so she referred me to a colleague. That one wasn't so good but it took me over a year (unfortunately) to realize that I just wasn't getting anywhere. She was very sweet and kind but just not effective. The goal of therapy is to reach the point where you don't NEED therapy anymore! So I tried my HMO. I was scheduled to see one guy but by accident (if you believe in accidents wink ) there was a mix-up in the schedule and I ended up seeing someone else. He turned out to be just the right person for me.

I feel so fortunate for that.

I don't know why it's taken me so long to seek out a different psych-doc for my meds. I think maybe when we're not feeling well, and not feeling strong, we are much less inclined to not only stand up for ourselves, but to even realize that we're not being treated well. Through reading your posts, my doctor's authoritarian behavior has become glaringly obvious.

Last Wednesday I requested a different doctor, but the procedure for that is not so simple. They have to send a message to my current doc, then she selects another doctor for me and goes over my history with that person. I would think a new doctor would be smart enough to read my chart and understand my history on their own, but that's not the way it works. So I'm now waiting for all that to happen and to get a new appointment. But I AM hopeful about seeing a new doctor and I'm looking forward to hearing what they suggest.

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Originally Posted By: joyseeker

Last Wednesday I requested a different doctor, but the procedure for that is not so simple. They have to send a message to my current doc, then she selects another doctor for me and goes over my history with that person. I would think a new doctor would be smart enough to read my chart and understand my history on their own, but that's not the way it works. So I'm now waiting for all that to happen and to get a new appointment. But I AM hopeful about seeing a new doctor and I'm looking forward to hearing what they suggest.


I'm glad you're looking for a new doctor; but why does your current doc have to "approve" your choice? It seems to me since you are not getting along well with this one, especially having trouble getting her to really listen to you - that anyone she chooses would tend to have the same ideals as she.


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Yes, I was thinking the same thing, but having been with an HMO for many years I DO know that what's good for the patient is often not foremost in the minds of those making the rules. I'm hoping I misunderstood or the person who told me this was mistaken. But I am planning to ask my doc's nurse about this when she calls. (btw, the psych nurse works for ALL the docs, not just this one) This doctor has always struck me as sort of an odd bird and I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of her colleagues see her that way also.



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Sometimes we really do have to jump through hoops with HMOs, but other times they just take over, which is great. What state do you live? Some regions are a little different, but patients should still be able to be treated the same. What insurance company manages your HMO?

I live in Maryland and now have a new female, primary care doctor that I have had for about 6 years. She takes my complaints, as well as my suggestions and requests for further study, with sincere interest and concern. The male doctor I had for about 12 years prior was Canadian and was very "laid back" about my symptoms and complaints, therefore he rarely ordered any extra tests. He was a good example of a HMO doc, but I found that finding the right primary doc really makes all the difference. If I need to see a specialist, I see her and talk about it and she asks me where I prefer to go. The difference has been night and day. So, you might have to change your primary care doc, or even your site so that you will have a bigger choice of primary docs. You shouldn't have to wait around for them to "discuss" your history before you can get an appointment.

I am really happy to know that have been seeing a therapist along with your psychiatrist. Sometimes I think that the benefit of seeing some specialists is when you realize that you are no longer getting anything from them, that you have probably gotten so much better that you probably don't need them anymore. I was seeing a specialist in behovioral modification to help "teach" me to control my migraines. At some point, I realized that I was spinning my wheels and going nowhere because I could not modify my behavior to prevent a chemical, physical reaction called migraine. Years later I learned that I had them probably because I had a hole in my heart and "unoxygenated" blood was traveling to my brain (which caused my stroke).

So, if you feel that you are spinning your wheels and going nowhere with certain doctors or therapists or psychatrists, then, just switch. If your primary doctor won't move fast enough, then change primary doctors, too.

I am so sorry that you are having all this trouble right now. It sure does not help your emotions, feelings or mood when you have trouble getting appointments and getting docs to listen. I certainly hope and pray that you are in a state that has positive medical support. Keep us posted, okay?

Peace and Prayers.

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Thanks so much for all your support and concern.

I spoke to the nurse yesterday and she said she "put the referral through" so at least I know the process has been begun. As I understand it, now I wait for someone to call me to schedule an appointment. If I don't hear something within a day or two, I will call them again. I learned a long time ago that you often have to be the "squeaky wheel" with HMO's, but the downside of that is that when you're not feeling strong, it's really hard to be an advocate for yourself. The support I've gotten here really helps though. I push myself cuz I know I've got friends to report back to. smile


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I hope that you get a call back soon. I know all too well how frustrating waiting can be. I hope that you find a dr. that works with you and that you trust.


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Good news! If the referral has been "put through", then you can speed the process up and find out which doctors YOU can call to make an appointment. They have a list of people that you can use and you can probably even look online and pick your own. They (your doctor's office) are having the referral office type up the referral, getting the name of the specialist, and mailing the forms to you, so you can hasten the process by making the calls yourself.

This gives YOU some choice in the matter, too. When you pick who you want and tell them, from their list, they can fax the referral to the doctor of your choice, or you can pick it up or wait for them to mail it to you. You really ARE in the driver's seat, but you just have to follow their rules. I wish you were close enough for me to help you. I would be glad to be an advocate for you.

I know that with everything that is going on how hard it is to get some of these things done. Just keep your head up and remember that we are here for you and our prayers are with you. Let us know if there is anything that we can do, okay? What state are you in? Do you live close to any of us? Connie is in Oklahoma, I'm in Maryland, and there are lots of us all around the country. Let us know where you are, okay? Best wishes and God bless you!

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As of yesterday (Friday), I still hadn't been called to schedule an appt with a new p-doc. Fortunately, I have an appt with my therapist on Monday afternoon, so I'm going to discuss this whole thing with him.

By the way, I live in California.

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Finally got a call yesterday. The earliest appt they had was May 24. So I took it. I'm not sure what I can do now. I might be able to get some kind of same day appointment on an urgent basis. I'm so worn down by this... it's always an uphill battle just to get NORMAL healthcare. My therapist is on vacation for 2 weeks. It's possible he could have intervened on my behalf, but I don't know that for sure. Just wanted to let you know where I am with all this.

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I am glad that you have an appointment scheduled finally. Try to stay busy and spend as much time here as you can and we'll talk and help you get to the 24th.

Are you working? What kind of work do you do? I haven't been working since I've taking care of my 86 year old mother. My brother is taking her back to Oklahoma next Thursday so I will be able to start teaching again. We all take turns of 2 and 1/2 months each year so she doesn't have to go into a nursing home until it is absolutely neccessary. Spring is always a better time of year for me because the days are getting longer and I love to see all the sun, flowers and the birds. I seem to have more SAD type of depression because light and seasons really affect the most. Does the California sun seem to help you at all? Do you have family close by?

Do you have any plants, flowers, or pets that you take care of? It might be a good idea to get a nice plant or fish to watch and take of for the next month so that you can concentrate on something that might be enjoyable. There are some really beautiful red and blue frilly fish that fight if put together. When either one is put in an individual bowl, they are fun to watch. Somtimes people actually have a water flower growing in the top of the water. You can see alot about this and talk to people here at Bella on the fish site. They have some beautiful pictures there, as well. I really enjoy visiting there, too!!

Write back and let us know how you are doing and keep writing so that we know that you are okay. Minute by minute, the 24th gets closer. Keep the faith and stay close to us. Just keep talking and remember we are here for you. God bless you.

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P.S. I see you changed your avitar to a spring bunny...kinda like a Poo friend. Cute! I really liked your last avitar, too! She was so innocent and pretty. Were did you get it?

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Thanks for all the suggestions. It sure helps. I think I'm the kind of person who needs have encouragement from others to do things, especially to spend my time in more enjoyable / productive ways. "Self-talk" just isn't the same as hearing it from a friend. I tend to be a chronic worrier and can waste a lot of time worrying. Another reason encouragement from others can be important.

I'm trying to do some redecorating in my home. It's just me living here now. I've finally figured out how I want things to be which is a big start. I've got lots of boxes of papers I need to go through, crafts started but unfinished, etc., etc. Probably the same stuff found in the homes of moms across America! We had a chance to get rid of our file cabinet (it was really too big) a few years ago, so I hurriedly emptied the stuff into boxes, where they still sit today. Then when my son moved away to college, he took a chest of drawers I was using for crafts 'n' stuff, so that got emptied... Several years of divorce stress and depression left me uninterested in cleaning things out as well as sorting the "incoming" and that's added to the piles of papers to go thru. I'm sure most of it's outdated stuff, garbage, but I have so much trouble getting up the "enthusiasm" to start working on it.

I have a suspicion many of us have these rooms where we close the door when someone visits! Seems to go along with our busy lives with kids and this "information age" we live in. Sheesh! Just the mail alone!

So there's that...

I have a dog, my trusty side-kick, and we recently got a lovely new dog park in my town. So I took her there a couple of times last week. She's still not certain she's a dog (golden retrievers a very much people-dogs), so that's a project she & I are going to work on.

I do love gardening. I just bought a couple of tomato plants. I've never put in a vegetable garden, just flowers and tomatoes for summer. Last fall I put my halloween pumpkin out next to the shed and let it "rot" and just last week I noticed pumpkin leaves where the pumpkin used to be. So this will be an unfolding mystery for me. Never done this before but my step-dad has -- that's where I got the idea.

My bunny avitar is actually Rabbit from the Winnie the Pooh stories. The picture of the little girl I had up before is a photograph by Anne Geddes. You can do a Google Image search and find many of her photographs. She specializes in children and babies. A very gifted woman.

Thanks again for your concern and encouragement! I can't tell you how much it means to me. Look forward to learning more about you as well, k?

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Hi! I'm glad that you have your trusty side kick, your golden retriever to take "you" for walks. I used to have a dog that would take "me" for walks, too and that WAS fun, but we did not have a new dog park. You are very lucky to have a place like that to walk her. What is her name and how long have you had her? I have a cat named "Kelly", which we got when my son was in 2nd grade. Matthew graduated from HS in 2004, so Kelly would be 13 years old.

Matt went to college 3 semesters and decided to join the police department, like his father. He has been there over a year and a half as a cadet, because he started at 18. June 9th he starts the academy. Unlike you, however, my son hasn't taken anything OUT of the house; he just keeps bringing stuff IN. He played drums in a band all through high school, so the band stuff takes up half the basement and exercise equipment takes the other half. As you would say, sheesh!

You said your son emptied dresser drawers to take with him to college. Where did he go to school? Is he finished? Does he come home very often? My oldest son went to Univ of Md. and graduated 2004. He moved to N.Carolina 2 & 1/2 yrs. ago, bought a house, met a girl, got engaged, etc. and now they are expecting. Unfortunately, as close as we USED to be, I never get to see him now. I don't know what kind of grandmother the girl is going to let me be to their baby, so I wish I could just go backwards a few years and have him still live close. Isn't that selfish?

Well, those boxes that you packed with the stuff from the dresser and the boxes of papers from the empty file cabinet remind me of all the storage boxes that I have in various rooms that I plan to use for different projects in my house. You are right, many women have these "boxes" of ideas taking up space. There has been a conversation going on here at Bella about clutter and you and I would fit right in!

I like your idea of redecorating! That is what I've been saying to my husband for a few weeks. LOL I would like to just get a big slide to put out my window into a trash truck that I could just close my eyes and start dropping down the slide to get rid of. Talk about lazy and disinterested! I don't want to box it and carry it out, just get rid of it. Then there would be room to clean, paint, and maybe put a new piece of furniture.

I do crafts, or DID, so I have half finished stuff, too. I started putting photo albums together for our 4 kids before they started having kids (The oldest one had her 1st and was doing these great scrapbooks so I thought I could at least put pictures in a bought photo book.) Now I have 2 totes full of pictures and albums, sitting in my bedroom, along with all my crafts, and painting materials. Well, the room that you mentioned that gets all the junk, that has nowhere to go? That's our bedroom. It is ridiculous. I think when Mother goes home Thursday, that is the first room that will be GUTTED! LOL

My dad did alot gardening and I learned alot about flowers and plants from him. He always had flowers all around his vegetable garden to attract the good insects. He died in 1998, at 87, and that is when MY real spirit, "his sunshine" lost its sparkle. I was daddy's little girl all my life (the only girl with six brothers), and his death knocked me off my feet. That is when I started having alot of health problems, depression being a big part.

I'm getting tired so I'd better stop and proof read this. wink

By the way, I like Ann Geddes work. I had no idea that the little girl you used as you avitar was hers. I'll have to check it out! Take care of yourself. By the way, did you get a chance to check out the fish site here at Bella? God bless you, Kath!

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I don't have anything to say about depression (I've written articles about it, but never experienced it myself) -- but I have to say how COOL it is that you're all so supportive and honest! What a kind place to be when you have problems.

It almost makes me wish I had depression, so I could offer encouragement and really understand what you're all talking about! (just kidding, ha ha.)


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try some anti-depressant .... it will help smile

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I'm new here and I just thought it would be good to be apart of this. I'm on the highest dose of Effexor and am not feeling well at all. I've been on it for over a year now. I've tried Zoloft, Prozac and Paxel. None of them have worked and I've given them more than enough time to let them work. I called my doctor today to get something different because I feel as though I'm going crazy. That's something very hard to admit. I don't talk to anyone about my problem, I guess I'm ashamed of it and in denial too. I look forward to feeling better....someday!

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Hi, Chris! HANG IN THERE! There are LOTS of excellent people here who know how you feel and will keep you grounded to let you know that you are NOT going crazy.

Take care of yourself. I'll be back later. wink

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Thank you for that. I REALLY need that right now.

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Hi, Chris! I was wondering if you work, what kind of work do you do? Is it full time or part time? I substitute teach but luckily school is out next Friday and I can start to enjoy my plants and flowers. Do you do any gardening? It seems every year that I do less and less. A few years ago I started having hanging pots rather than flower beds so that I wouldn't have to bend over to weed. So far it has been great! smile

We have finally gotten rain in Maryland. I think I heard that we have been very dry for the last 4 months. Our grass is even starting to turn the brown color of Texas grass. LOL (I grew up in Texas). Anyway, with all the rain, my hanging baskets have been "flooded". I have actually had to go out and pour out the excess rain, because we have had so much at one time that it can't even drain quick enough.

I have enjoyed sleeping in the rain, though. It is so soothing. laugh Actually I did not sleep in the rain. I enjoyed sleeping WHILE it was raining. wink Now the sky is blue and the wind is breezy and the birds are singing. All the mama birds are teaching their babies to fly and it sounds like a jungle in my backyard with all the different birds calling and babies chirping. I actually saw a blackbird (starling, I think) head for a nest of cardinals that were chirping for food to see if she could help. Mama starling was teaching her baby to eat and fly but mama cardinal chased her away. wise move, probably! wink

I hope that you are doing better now and can take some time to stop and SEE what is happening around you that is different than it was a few weeks ago. I think that is what they meant when they said we need to take time to stop and "smell the roses" because my roses haven't started smelling very fragrant yet, but they sure ARE pretty to LOOK at! laugh

Keep us posted and let us know how you are doing and what is up with you! smile

Peace and friendship,

Trish

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Hi! I wanted to check in and see how joyseeker and Chris and everyone else is doing. Hope everyone is taking time to stop and smell the roses and listen for the birds singing! smile

God bless all of you!

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Trish,
I'm doing well. Thanks for asking and caring. You are a true friend to me.
Last night I listen to the peepers instead of listening to the birds this morning.

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Trish,

Das told me about how you helped him.

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Trish is a good person to chat with. She's done me wonders.

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CDM, you are back! I am so glad!! How are you feeling? We heard that you were in the hospital. I hope that you are much better now! smile I am happy that Das and I have had chances to talk. It's so important for us to have friends who listen and can help. wink

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Chris, thanks for your kindness and the nice words! wink It is wonderful that you spent time for yourself last night listening to the birds! How is it going with your company? Are all of your celebrations with your children remaining enjoyable for everyone? I think of you often and hope you are taking good care of yourself! smile

Your friend,

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Joyseeker,
I was on Effexor for a long time also. I believe that it is a terrible drug. It really did not stop my depression and the side effects were awful. I would get what I called "brain zapps." It would feel like electric shocks going through my head. I made the mistake of going off them cold turkey. DON"T DO IT. I lost my memory for two days. I had to go to the hospital and the doctors thought I was drunk. I don't even drink! It was terrible and I am so glad I am off it now. I take lexapro, and it works a lot better. I still am depressed sometimes. I probably need a stronger dose, but it works well for me.


Tomorrow is another day.
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Linda, I am glad that you are off Effexor but I can't believe that you quit it "cold turkey". ALL anti-depressant medicines WARN about not stopping like that! I am glad that you are okay! I am on Lexapro, too. I've found that it works pretty well but it just doesn't last all day long, so my doctor added wellbutrin to be taken in the afternoon and that seems to fill the gap.

Even on meds, we still can feel depression but at least we can think of ways to combat the illness through positive thinking and actions. Smiling and surrounding ourselves with happy people are 2 of the best ways to stay away from depression. Also, not allowing our minds to dwell on the "bad part" of our past or bad feelings but rather look at life as though we DO have rose colored glasses, makes all the difference in the world.

It is just as easy to be a happy, positive person who smiles and says something nice to greet someone, even themselves, as it is to frown and be grumpy and negative about everything. I think it is like being happy laugh that I HAVE a half glass of water instead of grumbling frown that I ONLY have half a glass of water.

I like your quote! Tomorrow IS another day. If we remember to try to be happy today, we can always try again tomorrow. smile Before long, we will have a GREAT habit of trying to be happy. laugh

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Originally Posted By: joyseeker
I was dx'd about 15 years ago. I'm on Effexor -- the maximun dose -- but I'm still struggling with depression. I know the times when I'm REALLY down are triggered by events in my life, but even when there's nothing "big" going on, I feel just barely okay. I never feel happy or up.

This can't be normal. Normal people don't feel like this ALL the time. I have a psychiatrist who monitors my medication, but I need to see someone different because I've lost trust in this doctor (relating to another med she had me on... long story).

I'm an empty nester with a son in college. I'm unable to work due to disability. And my husband and I are going through a divorce. (The divorce was my decision because he's totally irresponsible with money and was driving us deeper and deeper in debt. Believe me, we tried our best but just couldn't stay together.)

Can anyone recommend another medication that works but has few side effects?

Or any other suggestions? I just can't keep living like this.



Hi Joy,

I was just wondering if how's things going on with you now? Are you still feeling depressed? Hope that you are fine now.

Take care always and God Bless

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