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Finally - A nontheist in government! Just read this on msn ...BellaOnline ALERT: Raw URLs are not allowed in these forums for security reasons. Please use UBB code. If you don't know how to do UBB code just post here for help - we will help out!

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Finally someone who can think, and evidently, has been doing so since 1973. Thanks for the link.


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I hope more will come "out". So many of the issues we discuss on this site (and otherwise) come down to some people trying legislate their religious beliefs onto all citizens.

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Did you know that when the founding fathers of this country shook off the chains of tyranny from Great Britain, they cited 27 Biblical violations and wrote the Declaration of Independence.

52 of the 55 men who formed the Constitution were active members in their church.

Thomas Jefferson called the Bible 'The cornerstone for American Liberty' and put it in our schools as a Light.

Patrick Henry said that our country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

One of the founding fathers, Noah Webster, who wrote the first dictionary could literally quote the Bible chapter and verse.

James Madison said, "We've staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our hearts."

In his farewell address, George Washington said, "You can't have national morality apart from religious principal."

You think the country is in bad shape now, wait until a non Christian is in charge. This country will really be in a world of hurt then.

Madeline Murray O'Haire petitioned to get the Bible and pray out of school and she won. Now look, they are war zones.

Even her son, Bill Murray, (not the actor), denounced her and is a devout Christian.

It's not a coincidence that this stuff happens only in the public schools and not in the Christian schools. It's always a public school where students shoot students.

We actually need some God fearing Christians in the government. Not ones who buckle to pressure and kowtow to the status quo

Get condoms out of school and put the Word of God back in it.

Now we have same sex marriages allowed in some states. That is an abomination to the Lord as well.

Wouldn't happen if we had more Christian leaders like we did with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln.

This country really went to hell in a handbasket, when the queen atheist, Madeline O'Haire took prayer out of school.

We went from talking and chewing gum as problems in school to drugs, rape and murder.

Yeah we really need another atheist with any kind of political power.



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Congratulation, this's good news but I didn't get when he declare his attitude? After election or before?
Is he the first atheist congressman in USA?!!!!!!!!
Unbelievable, seems still has long way to reach to Europe in this kind, I think.
God bless USA!!!

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GOD BLESS USA - ?!? laugh laugh laugh

I take it this is meant in irony, as Stark is an atheist!!

Good sense is prevailing! With the entirely destructive history of Christianity and Deistic people in control, and the insiduous, pervasive and dictatorial harm they have wreaked in the name of God/Allah, it's wonderful to give someone else a fair crack of the whip for a change!

More power to his elbow!!

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Ya know, few people really realizes that the Christians started killing even before the crusades, kept killing through the Inquisition and are still killing daily. The religions wars in the Middle East started over 4000 years ago and aren't going to stop anytime soon.


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Atheists and pagans have killed far more people than Christians. Look at all those murdered by Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung etc.


Dear Dave
Please look at them more precisely. Attitude of people is more concern to their culture, belief and training.
People you mentioned above grew up in ultimate dictatorship atmosphere and never known what democracy is. They killed a lot of people because believed that they are right and all the people must accept such belief, if not have to die, it's tyranny rule. I guess in this situation not any different to fanatics religious leaders who have killed people for their believes.

Image 700 years ago, what happened in Europe? I don't think you approve such era.
I think we haven't to justify things due to our belief.


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Communism is a political system. That is an absolutely inane statement.

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Communists are a political system but its also common knowledge that they are not Christians.

I remember back in school in our history books when we were learning about communism, they used to brainwash the children in their schools that God does not answer prayers but the Communists will provide for them. Then they went to prove it. They asked the children in school to pray for God to prvide them with apples.

When God didn't provide the apples, they then asked the children to ask the communists for them and miraculously there were bushels of apples outside the school that communist soldiers had put there.

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