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I've learned this in my 44 years, if someone is telling you that "God told me to do this", or "I know in my heart that this is what God wants me to do", or even "X religion is the ONLY right way" and my personal favorite, "You are going to go to Hell for that", RUN as QUICKLY as you can in the other direction!

Also, has anyone else noticed that those preachers who are MOST vicious in speaking out against homosexuality are the ones who are usually "in the closet" so to speak? Me thinks they doth protest a bit to much.

Had to tell you loveapple, your "signature" is great. I'm caring for a child with disabilites and sometimes people just see his problems, and not his beautiful spirit.

Our adopted son (21) has Down's Syndrome, he is agreat joy and blessing to us even though he is severely disabled.

Does being a left handed lesbian make you more normal than everyone else? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Jan <img src="/images/graemlins/fish.gif" alt="" />

lol Jan <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the laugh..Well yes I guess that makes you more than normal then <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Seriousley though...I going to quote what you did and just say yep I agree with that because its true. Geez sometimes I think we are still stuck in the middle ages.
We still have a long way to go.

Our "Thing to be thankful" for today! That it is NOT the Middle Ages anymore or alot of us would not be here posting because we would have been burned at the stake for our views I am sure.

Ah, the good old days.

True...

Yes, we would have burned at the stake even as recently as early America, the days of Cotton Mather and Jonathan Edwards, both evil, vile men. (Please note the anagram.) But we are burned at other stakes today and those can be just as hot as the long ago burnings. We are the only minority left to whom it OK to say, "Die, faggot!" or "You can't teach my child, you lesbo dyke!" "You are all abominations!" "We were attacked by Al Queda because of you!" "Katrina destroyed New Orleans because of you!"

We used to joke when I was in a helping profession....if we all stayed home for just one day, every school, library, hospital, government office, university and more would have to close. But now 30 long and street fighting years later, we still can be degraded, demeaned by those calling themselves religious, especially by those calling themselves religious, because it is their self proclaimed duty!

Ain't PC to call any other minority by their derogatory names, but hey, here we are....have at it. And please do it in public, in the newspapers, especially in the churches, in the halls of goverment. Use it as a campaign slogan.

And teach your children well. They learn hatred quickly.


What a shame.

Jan, who doesn't mind straights as long as they don't act that way in public

I have to be honest and say I was one of those people who used to say all those sorts of those terrible things. It took me waking up, thinking for myself and hearing how what I used to say sounded coming out of others mouths that made me realize what I had been like. It wasn't a pretty picture.

You are so right, children are not born hating, it is taught to them.

By the way, sometimes what they AREN'T saying is much more important than what they are saying. If they keep the "sheeples" mind on say "Protecting the Sanctity of Marriage" they have them busy worrying about THAT and not important things like war, crime or how people like me have to worry everyday about not having any health insurance.

I think THOSE are the real "Abominations", not homosexuality.

All my straight couple friends tell me I am the most threatening person to their marriages next to their cat.
I also think that the great unwashed, Joe and Jane Sixpack cannot/will not think for themselves and want to be led by their leaders, elected or otherwise. So they are getting exactly what they asked for.

I agree with you totally re war, insurance, etc.

Jan, who will have health care for the very first time in 50 years on October 1st courtesy of Medicare

OK that was a ride and a half.... I mean reading the posting of the day.

I asked patience a question to understand where she was coming from and I end up reading what amounts to hurt feelings leading to a hatred of all Christians.

I can't fix, nor do I want to, your viewpoint regarding Christians. You are seeing a small percentage of Christians and judging all of us by that experience. It would be like me saying that all gay people have sex in movie theatres and parks.