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#249060 07/23/06 02:50 PM
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<<Low-Carb is not to be confused with High-Fat, which is why the Atkins diet, etc. end up being more dangerous than healthy for many people.>>

May I ask where you got this information? I must disagree and do so strongly. I have been on Atkins since early 2004, eating a very high fat diet to control my cholesterol and weight. Other than through the use of drugs it's the only thing that has worked for me. My doctor has asked me to stay on it for life. I couldn't be more thrilled. My cholesterol was very high. I had high LDL, extremely low HDL and high triglycerides. My cholesterol is now 160. LDL is down to low 60's. HDL is near 90. Triglycerides are 43. My risk factor for heart disease is so low that the computer has trouble dealing with it. My risk factor is 1.9, putting me into a category with less than 5% of the population. You call this unhealthy and dangerous?

In addition to all these positives I have lost 70 lbs., have more energy, need less sleep, never have any food cravings and have never felt better in my life. Even my blood sugars have dropped, although they were always normal.

I eat more vegetables than most people and eat healthier than most people. I am 59 years old and find most people cannot keep up with me.

I have also been reading that many doctors are now putting their type 2 diabetics on Atkins because it will control their disease without drugs.

BTW... Eating very high fat on Atkins is healthy because we burn fat for energy and don't store it. It's when you eat high fat and high carbs that you're in dangerous territory. Don't confuse low-carb, high-fat with just high fat. There is a huge difference and you're doing a dis-service by saying Atkins is dangerous for many people. It's dangerous only when done half way. The percentage of people who have difficulty with it is around 1%. The others aren't really following it, much like the guy in NYC who sued Atkins. He was eating high fat and high carb!

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Yup I agree with you completely on all counts.

With your hubby, what if you made dishes with lots of veggies and then things like salmon and tuna? It would just worry me to live on piles of pasta - there's not a lot of nutrition there, and lots of empty calories / carbs / energy units / however you want to categorize them ...


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Oh, maybe I wasn't clear. He doesn't live on piles of pasta and rice. I make one casserole each week that does have pasta or rice but it also has protein and vegies and the other dish is a chicken dish. When he eats the casserole he also shares vegies and salad with me. What really complicates things for us is that he is HIGHLY allergic to fish. He can't even touch the package! For a guy he eats pretty darn good. He always gets in his adequate servings of vegetables and lots of fruit.

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Oh ok that sounds great! Veggies are really important to nutrition and life <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> That is really sad that he is allergic to fish! Fish has a lot of nutrition in it. I wonder if someday they'll come up with ways to cure people of allergies like that ...


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#249064 08/28/06 07:44 PM
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You certainly have some valid points. Having recently finished a senior seminar paper on weight issues in America, many of your points are correct.

The major problem in America is a lack of activity (sedentary lifestyles). We turn to televisions and computers for entertainment. We take sports out of schools. We drive almost everywhere. Our jobs are sedentary in nature.

In America, portions are out of control. This is due in large part to the availability of nutrient poor ingredients like flours, sugars, and hydrogenated oils. Unfortunately, many Americans have to choose between eating nutrient poor foods and going hungry. Healthy foods are extremely expensive and unattainable for many low income individuals.

Surely, the government has a large role in regulating our food. Corn is extremely cheap to buy because it is nutrient poor. The government allows additives to be put in just about everything. One is hard pressed to find products that do not contain corn syrup, food starch, or other harmful ingredients.

You are also somewhat correct about diet foods. The majority of diet foods are labeled as "low-fat" or "low-calorie." That translates to high in sugar. When the fat and calories are taken out other things are added. This usually includes sugars and hydrogenated oils. Products billed as health foods are often harmful foods. I do believe that Splenda is a safe alternative to sugar. Just about everyone knows the harmful effects of regular sugar. Numerous tests have proven the safety of Splenda.

However, I think you missed the point of low-carb dieting. Low-carb dieting is about eating healthy, whole foods. Atkins is the reason that we are so aware of dangers like sugars and trans-fats. As a successful low-carb dieter (I lost 100 lbs.), I eat more healthy foods than anyone I know. I eat nothing white (flour, sugar, potatoes, rice, etc.). That means that I do not eat processed foods, the major culprit in our diet. I stick to Atkins products or other low-carb products without added sugars or hydrogenated oils. I do not drink sodas or flavored drinks. I eat plentiful amounts of low-sugar vegetables. I also eat low-sugar fruits. I only consume lean proteins. I exercise for at least 1 hour most days of the week (if at all possible). Low-carb living can certainly be a healthy way of life (if one can learn to effectively incorporate good carbs and not always fall back on induction).

As you can see, eating low-carb is a healthy way of eating. The problem with low-carb is that we get in the mind set that all carbs are bad. This is simply not the case. I have been trying to incorporate more carbs but it is difficult. I am still overweight and have not been able to lose weight no matter how hard I try. In that regard, you must also respect that some people have low-metabolisms and other issues. I also have thyroid issues and chronic fatigue.

I absolutely agree with the last line of your post. As a society, we need to place more of an emphasis on activity and less emphasis on food.

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Holly, I agree with you very much. I just came back from Ukraine and people there eat potato pancakes and piroges (i.e. potato in pasta) all day long. But they also work killer hours out in the fields, walk everywhere and dance all night. So they are CONSTANTLY on the move and need that high level of calories.

I don't think we can blame the government for the way we eat. Every one of us has a supermarket near us and can choose what we buy. We demand homes with TVs, cable TV, steroes etc. People in Ukraine don't have those things. If we had a monthly budget that only included "real" necessities we could easily afford very healthy, nutritious foods. We have a bit of twisted priorities ...


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