BellaOnline Forums Sports Wrestling Sting and Samoa Joe, huh?

James Gang. Ergh. Another team that simply has no edge left. They were once good but now Billy Gunn looks completely ridiculous (He is old now,not a young buck) and Brian/Road Dogg looks like a car mechanic, not a wrestler.

Their promos are as bad as Dudleys' are and the tws teams together talking?

Nails on a chalkboard.

About Scott Steiner. Like nearly everyone else, I'm NOT a big Steiner fan. But, I do think he plays a very good Bully type bad Guy. So long as he's still in shape and has that ring presence (which he has), they may as well keep using him. Just don't let him wrestle too often.

I don't know what happened to the Steiners. When Rick and Scott were the "Steiners", they were unbelievable in the ring. Them versus Road Warriors or Doom and my fav, vs Owen & Bret Hart (a once off I believe). Just great matches.
Then they both decided to bulk up to the point of being unable to really move in the ring, esp Scott. And both went the Bad [censored] route. I dunno, I think they were better as the ex college Steiner Brothers.

Tikus

We both agree here. But if the man is constantly being cheered against a guy who is booked as the good guy, you can't continuously book Joe as a heel. While the regular fans don't use these terms, they understand the difference between a good guy and a bad guy. The Austin reference is a good one, though I think McMahon could tell early on where he wanted to go there. Just as I think TNA knows where they are going with Joe.

And we mentioned Christian and Patty mentioned that he's getting cheered. Let's remember who cheer him. The same 200 fans that go to the weekly TNA and PPV shows. The PPV buying crowd enjoys him I'm sure just as those taping fans. But the true story in if he works as a champ in my opinion is if he is going to make more people buy the PPV, or if he makes more people watch the TV show. I understand that probably the only person moving anything is Joe, but that's what the champ is for correct?

Not always. Some people are watched more when chasing the belt Triple H is one.

But you'll agree that the champ has the responsibility of drawing the houses? Isn't that why Eddie had problems with being champ? So much responsibility?

If you're in the main event every PPV, you need to be a draw, or you're worthless there. That's just my opinion.

I definitely agree the champ has to essentially carry the brand. It isn't quite as formulatic as it used to be but still, when houses tank and such, much of the blame is on the champ.

I also agree you have to draw if you are main eventing. That is not to say Joe wouldn't draw main eventing going after the belt rather than holding it though. I think making people want it, wait for it, and hope for it will make him getting the belt that much sweeter. But then he has to be able to hold the heat as champ once the fight to get it is gone. He probably can, judging from what I have seen. I just don't want them to rush anything. Especially if hat means an automatic Jarrett feud that ends with a guitar shot win. Ugh.

He is sort of a modern day Goldberg in some ways and it was fun watching him go after the belt and plow through people but once he had it, there wasn't much left to hope for. Of course, Joe has tons more talent than Goldberg did...

They need to give Joe a believable memisis. And slowly build it. ECW were king at this, sometimes keeping opponents apart for months. Not only ECW, I remember WWE very slowly building up the Ultimate Warrior v Hulk Hogan match for ages, till the fans were rabid. Joe needs an opposite.

Tikus

Give Joe Ooooomahgaaaaa.. Please.

Amadeus, Gotta ask you, are you the sort of person who who likes to Feed minows to Mexican Waking fish? Or live mice to Pythons?

Isn't that why he's on our team, Tik?