Well- either way you are welcome here. I must also say that I read the entire thread and I didn't take your points as "advice" or "mom bashing" but as observations based upon your own experience. Must have struck a nerve because that one Lynne person got really nasty, really fast resorting to name calling etc. Now, that's a great example to set for kids. I have seen many moms post on this forum...so is this perhaps a case of some can "dish it out, but can't take it" ?