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I don't know how to work the quotation thingy on here!

Dave - I don't believe that a fetus is a human because in my belief system the soul incarnates into the body only fully at birth. That's my belief, and I realise that you disagree.

What I'd like to ask you about is why provocation renders capital punishment 'worse'? How then are they morally equivalent, and why, if to you life (wherever it starts) is sacred, does it make a difference why it's taken?

I'm sorry you've been banned (not sure what for) - as I respect your motives and find your arguments interesting and informative - even though I don't agree always.

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What is the "alternative," you mention, freespirit? Jail?

It is disingenuous for a society to say that we, as a collective, value life and abhor murder and then practice the opposite.


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I believe that there are crimes so terrible that execution is an issue to carried out and decided by the offended party, for instance someone who raped, tortured my 13 year old in way to ghastly and morbid to describe to anyone, yet alone me, the childs mother. I believe the sentence to be executed should be reviewed by a jury, and judge, and then metered out by the hand of the injured parties. If they can kill the individual the individual dies. If they do they live with there very core of being and maybe it will provide some comfort or maybe they will simply not do it. But it really is upto the people who have to live with knowing this monster breathes

Interesting question.


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Very well said tobasco...I bet if people were in your shoes they would be singing a different tune.

The fact hat these bastrds are aloud to live is an out rage in itself but the fact that they are rotting away in jail without any chance of release is nice and comforting to know.

They keep the worst ones here in total isolation and it actually sends them crazy <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but still the other prisoners manage to get to them somehow...Prisoners dont take to kindley to people who tourture children. The poor kid was cut up while still alive for [bleep] sake!! <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
Does someone like that desrve to be bashed constantley? - you bloody bet! I will NEVER change my views on this and I know many others feel the same.

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It is disingenuous for a society to say that we, as a collective, value life and abhor murder and then practice the opposite.


Well said. I've always been an advocate of teaching by example*. If a government demonstrates that it's perfectly acceptable to kill or execute someone for what they have (or have not done in some cases) done, then how can you then portray murder as being wrong?

In the UK there were cases of innocent people being hung. I guess that makes the executioner a murderer, so should he have been hung too? Where does it end?

I feel the same way about war. How can you expect countries that treat their population badly, or invade other countries, to act in a civilised way when the response to the problem is to drop cluster bombs on innocent women and children?

Violence breeds more violence, whether it's by individuals or by a government.

I'm all hot and flustered now so I'll just leave it there.

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So the allies have been dropping cluster bombs BY ACCIDENT....ah, thank you for clearing that up Davey, I feel much better about that now.

I'd like to say it's nice to see you again*, but as you've just attempted to justify the killing of tens of thousands of innocent civilians it's really not actually that nice at all.

What is that smell in here...has someone let one off? No, it's texasdave!

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Nope.


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Nope? Was that straight from the horses mouth?

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