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Alexandra,
I hope you don't mind me responding to your above past two posts, since you wanted to take the discussion to another forum.
This is the "Bible Basics" forum and why we answer discussions from the Bible point of view.
In regard to God allowing evil, I call this the "God-Blaming Syndrome" but am not accussing you of this! I just want to point out that this very same argument, is the reason so many people cannot accept God. How can a God, allow the evils, sufferings, etc.., we see in the world??
If I may repeat what the Bible says about it, on this Bible forum, it might possibly, at least shed some light.
God gave man-woman, complete authority over the creation (Gen 3) and at the same time, free choice to accept or reject him (De 30:14-18, Gen 2:17 & 3:4-50). When they chose sin (evil) over God, THEY WERE THE ONES who brought evil into the world, sickness, disease, disasters etc...
Some ask; "Why didn't God create them incapable of choosing evil? Because God wanted children who would accept him by choice and not robots who were required to. Had already had angles created to serve, mankind was created to be family, who would serve God and one another, out of love.
God cannot break covenant and he gave his Word that man had dominion and choice.
Do I believe there is symbolism used in the Genesis account of evil entering man's world? Possibly, yes, but if you think about it, it would be an incredible task, to describe these events in a way that is understandable to mankind, from the beginning, forward.
The fact is, it was man, in association with satan (yes he is called satan & the devil, repeatedly in Bible scripture), that brought the sickness, disease, death, calamities, disasters, wars, etc..............
God has offered redemption from this but that doesn't mean we will be immuned to it (Mt 5:45).
The very fact that we see a difference between good and evil (people rejecting God because of evil), proves that these two things do indeed exist. There is the ridiculous argument that evil is relevant to each person but if you accept that view, you cannot reject God because if. << You didn't imply that, I just wanted to include that point.
John 10:10 "The thief (satan-devil) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy; I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
The scipture shows the contrast between God's works & purposes and those of evil. Another scripture states that Jesus came to destroy the "works of the devil".
God does not perform the evil, he is bringing it to an end!

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Typo correction in above post:
Sorry, meant to say "There is the ridiculous argument that evil is relevant to each person but if you accept that view, YOU CANNOT REJECT GOD BECAUSE OF IT."

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Thank you for the patience and perseverance shown in responding to my post...However, in a private prior discussion with the BibleBasix moderator, I agreed, by virtue of the fact that this is a Christian forum on which she moderates, and through a set of guidelines constructed by her, which were mandatory for being permitted to continue, I cannot in all honesty freely express my point of View here without offending her principles. This would make me feel uncomfortable.
In view of this, I decided to open up a separate thread in which to continue this discussion, with no holds barred (save those I posted in my first post there, which I don't think anyone would either disagree with, or fail to comply with anyway....!) I am not intending to bring this discussion to a halt, single-handedly, But I also think that it has either run its course, or gone off-topic.... or indeed, both.
Thank you all once again for having the consideration and courtesy to come back to me on this... I will be sure to continue observing this thread, and contribute, providing I don't step on toes... I would welcome you all to the other discussion.

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Well, if things like natural disasters can run someone away from God and their faith, I would have to say they are in big trouble when the end finally comes and the anti-christ has free reign on this earth...

better start stock piling food now, because the state of the world is going to get much worse.

it's too bad that people can't seem to give Christianity the respect they demand for their own religious beliefs. But that has been my experience.

In her first couple of posts in the Buddhist forum where she would like to continue her discussion, she claims that she has never met Christians who are so fired up (not a direct quote) about the Bible as here in America. Good! Who wants to be luke warm anyway?


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Jenna,I too hope I am often accused of being fired up!

Rom 8:18 "..the sufferings of this present life are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us."

I Cor 15:24-26 "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enimies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."

God allows evil to run its course because of man's disobediance but Praise God, all evil, suffering and death, will be eliminated forever in the future!

Rev 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

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Edited by Alexandra.
inappropriate response.

Oh, hush my mouth - !! <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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We'll go along with that wish!
Now let's see if you can really do it!

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Count yourself lucky I had the consideration to come back and edit. if that isn't respect I don't know what is...

When you are able to speak about my spiritual practise with as much authority as I am able to speak on Christianity, I will look forward to having a more constructive and encompassing discussion with you.
until then, show some courtesy.

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Read my post on the other thread, it and this one, are my last to you.
You have shown no authoritative knowledge about Christianity and the Bible, whatsoever.

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Jimlow,

Let's just recognize and shake the dust from our sandals so to speak...

I agree with the comments you made about the suffering in this world being only temporary and that we can look forward to eternity with the Lord where all our tears will be wiped away.

One question that I like to raise is this:

Where do we want to spend eternity? Because we WILL spend eternity somewhere... in the city gates or outside the city gates?

I'm so grateful that my name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that I cry for those who are not accounted for yet. Christ came to everyone not just a select few. All of us are God's children. Our only job is to love all God's children no matter how obstinate they behave. I'm not called to evangelize the way some are. I'm not even called to teach or preach. I am not called to judge but being judgemental is my thorn in my side. I am only called to love. Love the Lord my God with all my heart and soul and mind; and to love everyone the way the Lord loves me. Sometimes I fall short but that is because I'm human, but my prayers are for all people to feel the sense of security and peace and acceptance that I feel within the arms of the Lord. Some people are hard for us to understand let alone love, and thats where I just let go and let the Lord.


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