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Tolerating Intolerance #235331
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I was wondering what your thoughts were on tolerating intolerance.

How do you work with similiar situations that arise in your everyday life?

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art41185.asp

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This is SUCH A HARD THING..... Thanks for writing a great article. It's definitely something that I need to work on.

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Your article is very nicely put!

Re: Tolerating Intolerance #235334
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Nice article Samten. I read an article by Natasha Hoffman this week in the Cygnus Review (lovely New Age book company based in Wales) that said that learning to cope with tyrants was a big lesson for those on a spiritual path.

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I'm beginning to understand that, at the personal level, it is not possible to grow spiritually without meeting a tyrant or two and learning about ourselves from them. They too are teachers and what we can learn from them is how to shift negative energy and treansform it into light; into lightness of being. It is impossible to tiptoe past them, because they have big ears and will inevitably hear your footsteps.


There will always be someone who tries to pull you down to your level & bully you into their world view. I've been doing a lot of self- reflection over the past couple of weeks & realised that whenever someone has provoked me in the past I have risen to the bait, even though arguing is something that upsets me. Now I am just starting to realise that I don't need to do this. I'm allowed to take a step back, shrug & think 'oh well let it go, we aren't going to agree and I don't have an obligation to pay attention and respond to everyone that tries to argue with me.'

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It always seems to me that the people who try the hardest to convert you to their way of thinking (be it political, moral, religious, whatever) are the ones who are actually trying to convince THEMSELVES of those beliefs.... the people who are the most comfortable in their way of thinking and being generally just live and let live. I try to remind myself of that when I get preached to. Oh, and take a deeeeeep breath. And count to 10. Or 100, if it's really bad. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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" I am the way, the truth, and the life and no one goes to the father but by me." John 14:6
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Re: Tolerating Intolerance #235337
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Megan,

When you count do you take deep breaths each time you count a new number or do you just count?

I ask because I never found just counting to help I have to take a deep breath each time to help recenter myself.

Re: Tolerating Intolerance #235338
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Lauren,

Is the article online? I think I'd like to read it.

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shift negative energy and treansform it into light


That sounds like a meditation practice called Tonglen Here is a great explanation of the visualization.


It seems like those who want to cause discord are in alot of pain themselves. Makes me feel bad for them and to hope that they will find peace.

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I find it interesting how some people choose to transmit their beliefs via the medium of non-consensual conversation and debate. I mean, why would anyone want to talk to someone who, right off the bat, makes it clear that they think you are bad and wrong just because you think or live differently?

When people approach me like that, I visualize myself as a mirror and I let their own energy bounce back to them.

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Samten, It is online here
Cygnus books
under this month's letter.

If any UK readers are looking in I can throughly recommend this company- they are wonderfully spiritual & lovely people to deal with.

The mirror technique is useful. The more aggressive someone is the closer to them I put the mirror. In the end they find
are shouting at right back at themselves, which is a learning experience for them. Works the other way too- if they are loving they receive love.

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