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Kids Need to Behave in Public #223575
12/07/05 03:40 PM
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Have you ever been shopping or just out in public trying to enjoy yourself and unruly children have completely disrupted your experience??? This is probably one of my biggest pet peeves! Read this article!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10338070/

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Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223576
12/07/05 04:37 PM
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At least the issue is getting attention, because I never remember it being an issue years ago. I say the whole CF community should stand up against this and hope that the other side will finally be considerate enough to respect other people's rights (though it's a long shot).

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223577
12/09/05 09:05 PM
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Hurray!!
I work retail, kids are always running around, screeching, messing up piles of shirts or tangling necklaces. One night I even had one dump an entire table onto the floor and the mother didn't even tell me before she left, and another night i had some kids break a shell necklace and leave the pieces on the floor - had another younger child come in and put them in their mouth and choked my [censored] wouldve been toast. To compound the rambunctiousness in my store the kiddies rides are right in front of my door, so there starts crying and tnatrums because they cant go on the rides right NOW.

When I go out to restaurants with friends and the like I tend to ask to be seated in the bar area so that the chance that little kids screaming in close proximity to my ear drums is lessened.

Dont get me wrong, I like kids, might want kids someday in the far far far far off future, but screaming crying ones kicking on the floor or running around like maniacs aren't my cup of tea, do that stuff at home or the park/playground.


per aspera ad astra: Through rough ways to the stars...

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223578
12/09/05 11:23 PM
12/09/05 11:23 PM
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Saw this on the main page, and didn't realize it was Child-Free 'till I got here- but I'm putting my 2 cents worth in anyway, because this annoys other parents, too!

If I or my brother had acted like that when we were kids, we would have been killed!

We very rarely go out to eat with our kids (unless its like McDonalds). When my oldest (the one that has Asperger's) was little - there were some major tantrums, but I always tried to get out of a store as quickly as possible. It was embarrassing to be in there with my child acting like that! I can't believe the number of parents that just ignore how their children behave.

At our local Wal-mart; the kids will race around on the bikes while their mothers shop for clothing. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Does that make sense?

I come back to a story where a teen had to do community service for shoplifting in our community. Her mother called our church to see if there was anything she could do there. My mom runs the kitchen and said she could use some help. The first day Mom needed her to take some garbage down to the dumpster. The princess called "Mommy" and complained. Her mother came and got her and said she thought her child would be helping to cook, she didn't want her child picking up garbage. <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Lady! Your child broke the law! Get real. <img src="/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223579
12/10/05 01:15 AM
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the two quotes in that article, one from the mother that says there will always betimes when children and parents will 'lose it' in public---ummmm well I never did as a child, and the guy who has a 2 yr old and said that sometimes children are uncontrollable--BS! No way in H3LL any 2 yr old will EVER dictate to me about anything for any reason!At 2 yrs old--my grandmother used to say--they stll have handles! (her weird reference to the cat's "handle" the momma cat picks them up with--meaning a two yr old can be picked up and carried OUT).
Personally I think if a minor commits a crime the PARENTS should also serve the time.


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Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223580
12/10/05 02:32 PM
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this reminds me of when the neighbor's kid vandalized our car (classic porsche). when we talked to the kid's dad about it, he said, "kids will be kids." OMG! that's NO excuse to damage our car while it's parked in our driveway.

i teach junior high, and i see this all the time. so many people don't take the time to teach their kids manners. often, it's the same people who don't have manners themselves. i'm so tired of it. and i'm really tired of parents who aren't being parents to their kids, but would rather act as their kids' defense attorneys. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

i have been blessed to have a few very polite and mature students each year. this year, i have 5 out of 100. and their parents have been told how wonderful those kids are and what a great job they have done with them. i wish there more parents like them in the world. unfortunately, they're few and far between.

oh, someone mentioned sitting in the bar area at restaurants. my husband and i do that too. for the same exact reason.

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223581
12/12/05 04:47 PM
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Tucson, AZ
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Thank you all for your supportive replies. I am so glad I am not the only one who wants to enjoy my experiences at restaurants, the mall or anywhere else in public.

As a side note- I was at the mall this weekend returning some things and my friend and I noticed how many people just bring their kids along for the ride when they go...what's up with that? No sitter or spouse maybe? I think, if I were a parent, I would want to leave the kids home and enjoy some time to myself. It is just so annoying when I have to dodge kids playing hide and go seek in the clothing racks.

Ravyn- I guess it goes back to what you said. The parent is the grown up and is likely more than twice their size- Control them!!!

Michelle- I am so glad to hear that this annoys other parents as well. There are so few of you out there that know what you are doing!

Wendy- you poor thing! You are so right about some parents letting their kids run wild in stores etc. I know how frustrating this must be for you.

Holles- I was a teacher for over 5 years and can really relate to what you said. I was put on the defensive so many times as a teacher when it was actually the kid who was misbehaving! Unbelieveable!

In general- it seems that the parents that take offense at rules or posters like the one in the article are the ones who have trouble controlling their kids or just don't care.

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223582
12/13/05 05:37 PM
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s a side note- I was at the mall this weekend returning some things and my friend and I noticed how many people just bring their kids along for the ride when they go...what's up with that?

Not to mention that they're probably there to buy the kids' Christmas presents anyway...how does THAT work???

You know, reading the article about kids in restaurants that's on the front page of the site right now....it's my opinion that we should be more vocal when we're bothered by these things. If a kid disrupts your meal/shopping experience/whatever, and the restaurant/store does nothing about it, my vote is that we should either leave (if that's possible) or if it's not possible to leave, at least inform management that our experience was not enjoyable and we wanted to leave (and/or that we'd like a full/partial refund for the meal that was ruined) because there was a child acting up whose parents were not controlling it, and the restaurant/store did not ask them to leave so others could eat/shop in peace....therefore, until that policy changes, we will not be patronizing their business.

I think part of the reason businesses bow down and lick parents' @sses, and let them have their kids do whatever they want, is because they're afraid said parent will say "I'm never coming back!" Maybe if they're shown how much business they are losing/stand to lose by allowing this behavior to continue, they'll realize losing a few breeders is nothing....I mean, consider Taste of Heaven. I'm sure he's lost a little bit of breeder business (no big loss there), but there are so many people I've seen who've said they will now make a point of frequenting that business, even if they'd never previously planned to do so, because of that policy--inc. people like myself who don't live in the area but plan to go there if we ever ARE there--that it must certainly make up for it.

All most businesses really care about is money, and if breeders can play that card, so can people who don't want to deal with that [censored] in public. It's always been my opinion--and perhaps this would change if I really did own a business, but I've always felt that if I owned a business and someone came in who was a jerk (either with unruly children, rude to my employees, whatever), I would have no problem telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine. And if they said "I'm never coming back!" I'd say "good riddance!" And if they said they'd tell their friends never to come, I'd say "good, anyone who would associate with you is probably just like you and I don't want THEM either." Sure, I might lose those people, but I might just get increased business from people who applauded such a policy (I know that if I saw a business that treat their employees well enough that they told rude customers off rather than making the employees bend over and take it with a smile, I'd certainly make sure to go there more often).

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223583
12/27/05 04:59 AM
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I get annoyed easily, but I think I became immune to "most" things. kids. traffic, nosie, animals, everything seems to get to me when I am out so I just have to block it out. I cant stand going to petsmart with my friend and having everyones puppy's yelping and jumping on me. Same with kids, I cant stand it when they are screaming in the grocery line because they didnt get their way.

Re: Kids Need to Behave in Public #223584
12/31/05 01:35 AM
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Enough already. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I have children. 6 to be exact having just had twins recently. Yes we go out to eat with them and they are loud sometimes and the twins tend to drop their food on the floor. We take them to all places to eat. Fancy and family. However, when my DH and I go out and do not want to be bothered by children we ask to be seated away from children. We also go on vacation without them at times, but choose couple only locations.
Those without children have too much money and time on their hands. Children are like anyone else, they have good and bad days. There are times when my girlfriends and I go out to dinner and we are too loud. People give us looks, but that's their problem. If you don't like it don't go or leave.

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