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#220216 11/09/05 05:01 PM
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When I was a relatively young woman in 80-es it is usually the girls who took care of their cloths becuase guys did not care than much, but I heard that this changed a lot. It seems that the young generation of boys (I also observe it in the case of my nephews) do care for their appearance.


I must disappoint you. Polish men are persistent in their refusal to dress fashionably or at least well. Neither older generations nor younger.

I am an example of it myself. I wear horrible rags. Clean, washed, but rags. Ripped jeans, worn and washed out t-shirts, old jackets. The older, the better. I hate suits, I feel unwell in them. I never wear a tie, even to my teacher`s exams or school formal festivities. Wearing a tie is abominal to me.

Why? Because I don`t care. I wear anything as long as it is clean and not smelly. I have more serious things on my mind than to worry about my clothes.

I think dressing nicely is considered not masculine by Polish men. They don`t want to be looked upon as jolly people who like colourful clothes or something else, close to feminine.

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Forza,

Good things come to those who wait!

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I must disappoint you. Polish men are persistent in their refusal to dress fashionably or at least well. Neither older generations nor younger.


All I can base my opinion on is my admittedly limited observation of the Polish male in the wild - but I will say this that in general they are MUCH better dressed than those I see everyday here in the States.

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Yve talks probably about the article:

Poles and Exotic Beauty Syndrome
http://culture.polishsite.us/art-egz.html

I wrote this article on demand, somebody asked me and I also heard about a couple of different situations, this is a warning for all women of color about Polish guys <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Hi there

Zooba: until the warranty is worn off. It means about 5 to 8 years <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

Yanc

PS. On November 7 was my 7th marriage anniversary, and I stiil treat my wife as my personal goddness.

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Yes, Jerzy i will agree w/ u, he is not a GQ (Gentlemen's Quarterly) dresser. Often, i might see him in the same clothing he had on a few days ago, although they are neat and clean. It does not trouble me since I am not very fashion conscious. But he is Adorable to me in any event.

I will try to probe to find out if i am an experiment for him and if so - this is unacceptable and i will address it. I refuse to be a trophy.

And in reference to the sex, he has not pressed the sex either. He does not appear to be assertive in that way. Although i wonder what is he waiting for b/c usually men try to get those panties rather quickly.

Your advice has been very helpful!!!

Blessings, yve

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Yes, Jerzy i will agree w/ u, he is not a GQ (Gentlemen's Quarterly) dresser. Often, i might see him in the same clothing he had on a few days ago, although they are neat and clean.


A few days ago ha ha ha. That is not bad.
I myself have two favourite comfortable checked shirts and I wear them in turns through fall and winter time. So in my case it`s weeks or even months ha ha ha.


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I will try to probe to find out if i am an experiment for him and if so - this is unacceptable and i will address it. I refuse to be a trophy.


You should also try to find out if by any chance he has a family back in Poland. In Jaga`s article there is a mention about temporary affairs of Polish people who go to the USA, stay for a year or two, earn money and all this time live with an unlawful partner. Then they come back to Poland to their wives and husbands.

When in the US, I saw many relationships like that. Those people even went to church together. Unbelievable!

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And in reference to the sex, he has not pressed the sex either. He does not appear to be assertive in that way. Although i wonder what is he waiting for b/c usually men try to get those panties rather quickly.


If he hasn`t pressed, it is quite a good sign. There is probably nothing wrong with him in physical context, nor mental.
He just treats you as a very righteous, decent woman to whom he cannot propose sex, at least not after a relatively short acquaintance. He probably thinks of you as a princess who deserves gentlemanly treatment. In his opinion proposing sex could hurt your feelings.

Is he religious? Even a little? Many Polish guys have this nice syndrome to treat women as Blessed Virgins. It is a result of Catholic religion and of a very high esteem in which Jesus` Mother is held in Poland.

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I wasn`t kidding with the concept of Blessed Virgin. There might be a grain of truth in it.

I thought it over and recalled the dark face of God`s Mother, known in Poland as Black Madonna, from the most famous painting of her in Czestochowa Monastery. She was named the Queen of Poland long ago (in 17 century) and since then has been treated with reverence which probably equals that given to Jesus Christ.
She is also called Our Lady. The replica of the painting has also been put in Manhattan`s St. Patrick`s Cathedral what makes the church visited by thousands of Poles in NY.

http://www.marypages.com/Czestochowa.htm
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/apparitions/pr00002.htm


PS. It is known as the Black Madonna because of the soot from candle light smoke which discoloured the painting over the centuries.

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An Indian painted an image of the Virgin in the garb of the Mexican goddess Toxantzin,and miracles were attributed to the portrait.
The Franciscan bishop,Zumarraga,was an Erasmian who disparaged the popular enthusiasm,saing,''Seek not miracles.The greatest miracle on earth is a Christian life.''
But miracles multiplied.
The legend grew,and popular piety at last received ecclesiastical recognition.

That was :The cult of the Virgin of Guadalupe -year- around
1541,

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Hey Jerzy and other respondents:

Yes, actually he does have family in Poland and family in the States. He plans to go back home (Poland) in the Spring 2006. I am not sure if he is a religious person... this topic has not come up yet.

Question: I know that someone earlier had stated that some polish men are very blunt and get to the point (unlike some American men whom do not like to divulge their emotions). Well, how should i respond to one that tells me that he is extremely fond of me perhaps even loves me. Since he stated this, he has been elusive and i wonder if he feels embarrassed by his comments which i really could not take seriously at this point since i consider him to be a friend.

A bit perplexed!!

Peace, Yve <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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