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Intermarriage #146573
03/19/03 08:51 PM
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What are your thoughts and views about intermarriage (intermarriage being defined as a marriage between a Jewish person and non-Jewish person who does not convert)?

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Re: Intermarriage #146574
04/27/03 12:54 AM
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Speaking as a Christian, if both parties were firm in their belief, I think marriage would be a bad idea. It is hard enough for any two people to live together harmoniously without throwing in more discord. eek
Spiritual beliefs become more and more important as the years pass. Not being able to share one's inmost faith would be a sad life.

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Not a good idea. Usually, one should marry someone from his own homeland. Mixing is possible, but not when diffrent cultures and religions are in the middle. My view, anyway ...

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Quote:
Originally posted by Paula, Judaism Host:
[qb] What are your thoughts and views about intermarriage (intermarriage being defined as a marriage between a Jewish person and non-Jewish person who does not convert)?

My Mom was Catholic and my Dad was Jewish. They divorced but not for religous differences. There is no reason interfaith marriages should fail or succeed anymore or less frequently than any other.

I married a Catholic girl and that marriage failed. Now I have succeeded with a Lutheran girl...What does it mean? Not much

Sam Owens


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Personally, I'll never marry someone who isn't Jewish again. I married my high school sweetheart, thinking that love would make everything else work. He was Atheist, I was raised conservadox.
We've now got three children who have no idea of their Jewish heritage mostly because he refuses to acknowledge it. <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: Intermarriage #146578
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I'm not Jewish, but I think that if 2 people are dogmatic in their beliefs, it's a recipe for trouble. If the couple is open minded and realize spirituality is fluid, it could work. Like any coupling, it depends on the individuals involved.

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Janet,

Even when both people are moderate, un-orthodox,
and secular, like my Duch enlightend protestant
(liberal-conservative) father and my Catholic (Polish
origin) mother. Ethnic, cultural, and political differances may cause tensions.

But in practise humanity is One, and the world is full of
Intermarriages and halfbloods. In Holland there are millions of them. The Latino population of your country
is a mix of Spanish invaders and Indian natives.
Many jews became christian in the past (forced and out of free will via intermarriage).
I know jews who are very worried about that.
But in Holland where there is a very small jewish community, many jews chose a non-jewish partners.
Also because many jews are secular or very liberal.
The Orthodox jews reject that, and only accept intermarriage when the partner does "Giur" (Conversion to Judaism at a Orthodox shul).

Re: Intermarriage #146580
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It's pretty much the same throughout the Jewish world, Pieter -- I think even at the Conservative level intermarriage is only accepted when there has been a conversion (except that conversions done through the Conservative branch are not recognized by Orthodox either. Only Orthodox conversions are universal). And after someone converts, it is no longer 'intermarriage' - it is then a marriage between two Jews.
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Re: Intermarriage #146581
11/29/04 08:15 PM
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Hi Pieter,

If you think about it, anything can be cause for tension in a relationship: religion, politics, views on child-rearing, spousal roles, social activities (with or without the spouse), and so on. I do agree that humanity is One, and it seems to me that boundaries of any sort are really humanity's own creation.

I respect those who want to preserve their heritage, but I think that focusing on "purity" can often cause strain and division on many levels.

Just some thoughts. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

(Btw, Paula, I rented Sunshine at Netflix because of your review, and thought it was a good film. I'm a big fan of Ralph Fiennes, but surprisingly, never heard of that movie until your review!)

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Paula,

I totally aggree with your comment. It is right!
I heard the same from jews on the Duch Forum when they gave advice to a Goi woman who wanted to marry her jewish boyfriend. Liberal and conservative conversions are not recognized by the orthodox and the law of the state of Israel.
I know the son of a liberal Rabbi whose wife converted herself from Catholic to liberal judaism.
Although she lives a completely jewish life she is only recognised by her husbants shul.

I just came back from South-Africa where I stayed in our family appartment opposite the sinagogue in marais road in Sea point a neighbourhood where many jews live and work. It's a lovely neighbourhood.

I never heard jewish religious songs, but there I heard it saturday morning from the shul outside our appartment.
They sing nice. Why do only the men sing?

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