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oh ouchi see where you coming from but where do you get
how can christians scholars admit that the bible is of doubtful authenticity? its true that while we may not know all of the oreginal meaning of word use back in the day most of the scholares think/know that there are documents written back when that the Bible came from. Doesnt Musilims

Michelle, you said: You keep coming back to the fact that the Bible has mistakes, but it is people that do not believe in it in the first place that go looking for these mistakes. I think that believer see mistakes and dont ask or get put down for asking. sure you can find a mistake and ignore it or deny it but i think if we dig deep enough we will find the mistake is the way we interperate it or that there is something hidden in plan site that we need to solve like Gods puzzle to His Kids! just a thought.

ok did i miss something you said:
Is consider as false preaching.

It is written, it must be known.
None of the so called Christian Churches teaches the Word of GOD,
The way GOD commended. [ they ignore ] many important
commandments , such as :
1Corinthians 3:16-17 which is the sonsof Jehoiakim were Jeconiah his son,Zedekiah his son. The sons of Jeconiah, the prisoner, were Shealtiel his son. and
1Corinthians 6:15-20 this is also genelology and
Act 7-48 says "However,the Most High does not dwell in house made by human hands: as the Prophet says: and in 40-50 thatHeave is Gods House and Earth is Hes foot stool and asked the question Did I not make every thing? and
Act 17-24 is talking about how God made the world and everything in it and He is Lord over heaven and earth and does not dwell in Temples.
so what do these versus have to do with false prophets? or was this a typo? <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" />

Act 17-24 is talking about how God made the world and everything in it and He is Lord over heaven and earth and does not dwell in Temples

I have always believed this.

It is a known fact that the original manuscripts of the bible do not exist. It is not a case of faith.
You mentioned that maybe people interprit the books wrong. No the problem is that there are no books that are written by the orginal authors. We know the meanings of probably everything written in the old scriptures. It is not a case of translating wrong by accident.

The King James Version of the bible was translated using scriptures discovered to be 700-800 years after Christ. In the late 1800's they discovered more scriptures of the bible and they said these were about 400 years after Christ.

The problem is that there is nothing with the signiture of Christ. And to add to this fiasco people are calling the bible the word of God when it has been reported to contain over 50,000 errors.

People are making a big fuss over the Da vinci Code. Its not surprise for me because I have been saying for years that the original manuscripts were destroyed around 326ce when the greek ruler constantine commanded them to be burnt.
At least you guys get to see it for yourselves in the cinema because today people are completly blind. They only accept what comes out from holluwood as true.

This is no joke.... i was speaking to a Christian guy in london once and he was telling me how he believed that time machines were real. AND HE WASNT JOKING!!!!!!!! YET he was devout Christian.

The problem is that most Christians will only accept what the priests and hollywood has to say. However the bible doesnt agree with most of their words.

My Friend, I have to agree with much of what you say.

I was raised as a Christian and did quite a lot of theological study, and I would have to say that I do not believe that the Bible is the 'Word of God' - it is a collenction of the EXPERIENCES of men who believed that they were speaking for God and of God.

I respect all religions, and I believe that each one has a 'facet' of the diamond we call TRUTH - but none have this truth exclusively.

ALL spiritual writings are valuable in that they teach us about LOVE, SERVICE TO OTHERS, PATIENCE, FAITH and how to live lives that show and manifest these values and ideals.

There is beauty and truth in every religion, and I try to look at all the good things that come from them and all the wonderful souls they have produced who have helped to make this world a better place. Whether they are 'God in the flesh' or prophets, or saints, is not as important to me as the message they brought and the lives they lived - as examples for us all to follow.

To me, it is all about LOVE - and when you truly love, everything else falls into place.

To me, it is all about LOVE - and when you truly love, everything else falls into place

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They only accept what comes out from holluwood as true.

lol it true


The problem is that most Christians will only accept what the priests and hollywood has to say. However the bible doesnt agree with most of their words.

i also agree with this people do not want or dont know how to reseach and think and decide for thereselfs. for what ever reason and the ppreacher Priest is view to be choosen by God the lead His flock. but anyone can go to college and get a degree?

To me, it is all about LOVE - and when you truly love, everything else falls into place

i could not agree more when the scence, theology, and polotics are all boiled out you had better have something worth standing for and Love is.

good job!!!

The DaVinci Code? Rubbish. The DaVinci Code says that Jesus is not divine and when he "married" Mary Magdalene, she became divine. How is this possible if Jesus wasn't divine?

It has been said in these replies that there are mistakes and contradictions in the Bible, and that may be, but can you tell me what they are? No one can. Everyone says that there are mistakes but no one can tell what they are.

It has been said that the Bible has been taken out of context because it is old and has gone through many translations. Has not the Quran? Has it not been translated over the years differently?

I do not believe Muhammad was a messenger of God because he died and stayed dead. Jesus died and lived again.

Buddha preaches self control. Didn't he weigh about 600 pounds? Where was his self control?

I am far from a biblical scholar myself but I do believe God created Heaven and earth. I do believe that He sent Jesus to save us from our sins so we may reign in Heaven with Him. I do believe that Jesus suffered as much as Mel Gibson depicted in the Passion.

I do believe that Satan lives and contorts our minds and ways of thinking so we do not believe in God.

I do believe that Jesus was a dark skinned man and I do believe that the Garden of Eden was in Africa.

I believe the Catholic religion is wrong in their beliefs.

I believe and disbelieve many things. However, the one thing I believe and no one will ever be able to tell me different is that my sins became white as snow the day I was baptized in water when I freely accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and I believe Jesus is in His Father's house making a home for me.

I also believe that Jesus died for me to be able to do this and if I was the only person on this whole earth, He would've died for me alone.

Dont mean to burst your bubble my friend but these mistakes have been shown time and time again in this post. Have you read from the beginning?

I have a book that lists 101 contradictions in the bible. CHRISTIAN BIBLE scholars admit that there are over 50,000 errors in the bible.

I could list them all night if you want!!!



The point your missing my friend is that the original Quran still exists. Today when you read a translation of the Quran, it never claims to be 'The Quran' but only a translation. Also next to the translations most Quran's have the original scripture in arabic next to it.

Have you ever thought why the bible never has the original next to it? OK I know that from one era to another different languages have been used in the bible. But if it were really authentic the Greek and Hebrew would all be there to be seen. BUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuut.... 2 reasons why they cant do that my friend...

1. The bible is made up of thousands of manuscripts and no 2 manuscripts agree with each other. In otehr words the manuscripts they claim to be original are not the same as each other so no one can decide what the original actually was like.

2. Secondly and very importantly the mistranslation of the bible may lead even more people than the already huge numbers of people to convert to Islam...


For example in the old testament the name used for God about 30% of the time was Jah or Jahweh often also called Jehova.
The majority of the time the word Eloheem is used as God's name (glory be to him).
Eloh in Hebrew meaning the most high. The 'eem' at the end of the word is a pluralisation of the name which in semetic and some other eastern languages assigns a stature of respect to the person or in this case God being mentioned.

In the new testament were aramiac is used. The word for God uttered from the mouths is.... Allaha. This word also means 'the most high'... And funny enough you can see im leading on to say the word Allah in Arabic also means 'the most high'

Another example in the bible is the mentioning of the prophet Muhammad by name.
He (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him), was mentioned by name as Muhammadun in the song of solomon. however in the English translation and probably every other translation this is not shown. in fact the english translation reads "Yeah, he is sweet alltogether lovely"

That takes mistranslations to a new height!
But wait there is worse!!(OOr more should I say)
In the chapter of John Jesus (May Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) mentioned that he must go for it is expedient for him to leave in order for the 'comforter' to arrive...
Now the word comforter here in some translations is mentioned as helper, or holy spirit or some other names that actually bear no resemblence to the true meaning.
The Greek word used here is Paraclytos...
The word Paraclytos means 'That which is praised'
Surprisingly the word Muhammad in arabic also means the same thing!!!



you really have to think before you type... im really sorry I had to say that!!!!! really sorry...
Did Abraham not stay dead? Did Moses not stay Dead? Did John not stay dead? shall I count out all the other prophets that stayed dead? May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all.

We Muslims do not believe Jesus (PBUH)died. we believe he was raised to heaven until an appointed time. When Allah is ready he will send him back to earth and he will rule with the justice that God intended to be provailent!
We believe he may have been cruxified but he never died in the process if that was the case and the bible also contradicts itself on this issue. I can show you if you wish my friend!

Muhammad (PBUH)was a prophet of God and was the last messenger of God. however Jesus'(PBUH)work is not yet complete and he will return.
Before you reject the last messenger of God maybe you should judge him fairly by seeing what he has brought forward in teachings. read the Quran before you can reject it!
As Jesus said in Mathew "you will know him by the fruit that he bears"

ok what is the Quran? isnt it the oldtestment or part of it? maybe im comeing from this with the wrong angle!!! Do you not believe in any part of the bible?