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#143362 10/09/02 02:46 AM
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<img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Of course. UN, like NATO is under complete control of USA, didn't you know? If they really had anything so really bad, they would have been attacked earlier. There is no evidence, that is why USA had to be patient for all these years. Inspectors were "barred" because they were spying, not inspecting.

"Iraq barred U.N. weapons inspectors in 1998, making it virtually impossible to keep track of what the West believes are Baghdad's efforts to develop its nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal."

The word "West" is better to be changed for "USA and GB" ...

<img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Germany ... you must be kidding me, really. Are you for REAL? Maybe you will qoute Belgium or maybe even Ukraine? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Find me a quote from Russia or maybe China. All Europe is under USA ... France MAYBE to a lesser degree ...

Iraq is not a peaceful country. All peaceful countries currently lie under USA. There is NO PEACE ON EARTH ...

I'm not anti-US, Lisa, <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I don't really care, since it doesn't affect me in any way. There are even things I like about USA, not many, but there are. But you must be leaving in a dream world, if you think that USA, UN and similar follow the ideals of equality, justice, peace and such ... there are no such things ... For instance, I can easily admit, that Spain is one of the politically weakest countries in Europe and they will do anything USA would say, but since Spain has no influence, USA don't touch it. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Spain WAS against the attack on Iraq, but then Mr.Bush called se�or Aznar, and this one has immediately changed his opinion on this matter ... do you think that Bush is so intelligent ( <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ) that he convinced the guy about something? Has given him some proof? Of course not ... he probably said something along the lines of "If you don't support us, we will not support you in your fight against ETA. And you will generally regret about your disobedience in the future.". It is this simple. So is with Germany and all other countries. France is a bit more independent and allows itself the luxury to express their own opinion from time to time. No comments about Britts ... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#143363 10/09/02 01:43 PM
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If you won't believe published reports by the reporting organizations, and insist that everyone in the world is lying except for you, then I suppose I'm helpless to make a case. A discussion relies on contesting the points brought forth, not in flippantly discounting every argument as "Oh, that's a lie. Oh that's a lie too. Yup another lie."

Everybody can't be lying. And, as pointed out, Iraq already admitted to having done this before. Unless you feel they were lying too.

Whether the UN inspectors were spying or not is immaterial. The point was what they *found*.

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#143364 10/10/02 08:29 AM
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And what have they "found"? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Nobody has ever seen WHAT HAVE THEY FOUND ... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You still haven't answered that maybe somewhat unpleasant question ...

And here are a couple more, very straigt question that don't require much thinking to answer:

A) Do you think that Europe is independent from USA in their opinions? (that is: they say and do what they think and want)

B) Do you think that USA only has self defence, humanity and justice interests in Iraq and in the world in general?

Don't go around too much, these are easy to answer. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> For me, the answer to both is NO with capital "N" and "O" ...

There is nothing bad in this ... USA is powerful and they rule the world as they like. There is nothing unnatural and sick in it. Everyone doesn't like it, but there is nothing to be done. Rome had ruled the world the same way before they fell. Whole Europe is weak and rotten and never can seriously argue with USA. The only countries that oppose are France, Russia and China ... the last two have always been USA's greatest enemies. And France, well, since they have nukes too and they also are the permanent members of defence comitee in UN, they have some "courage" left ... All of this is very natural, logic and quite simple ... Iraq having any weapons has nothing to do with this ...

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