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Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1389 09/03/02 11:09 PM
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That must have been GREAT, Jessica!! Do you have any photos of it? I love Mustangs. Tho if I was to get an older car at this point, my dad had a Triumph in college and I really want to get one just to sort of "connect" with his childhood <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1390 09/03/02 11:10 PM
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OK, AINTD, what jobs do you think should only women do? This is really a bizarre idea as far as I'm concerned <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1391 09/04/02 12:49 AM
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Woah! I must have missed the part about certain jobs being only for women! Let me tell you! My mother is a lawyer, and it was literally HELL for her to get through all of the male chauvenistic attitudes that some people have!! When we set up our booth (for those of you who don't know, I sell my artwork downtown) people ALWAYS go to my husband as the artist, then look totally shocked when he tells them I did it! And of course, I always get asked if I'm a lesbian (never mind the fact that I am really obviously pregnant, wearing a wedding ring, sitting with my husband) simply because I draw female figures! Anyway, heated subject for me <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

in answer to the other question, sadly Lisa, that car was when I was 16. I eventually GAVE it to a boyfriend (yes I kick myself every day... and teenagers think they're in loooooove, grrrr). My husband and I ahve a beat up mitsubishi mirage, that gets the most incradible milage I've ever seen, and a ford astrostar van, that gets the worst mileage I've ever seen, but is what we're stuck with since I have to lug two kids, a hubby, and my booth with art around every weekend <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1392 09/04/02 12:50 AM
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And excuse the typos, I'm too lazy to go and change them <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1393 09/04/02 12:40 PM
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A small car with non-agressive looks is for women.

Politics is not for women. Army and police service, generally are not for women. Weightlifting is not for women. When women play football, it looks stupid. I wonder if they have already invented boxing for women ... or ice hockey?

Men and women ARE different and no matter how you try to make both do exactly the same things, some are just not for men and other are not for women. The most clear examples are in sports. Men would never do artistic gymnastics or artistic dancing under water (or whatever it's callel), would they?

I certainly hope I'm not offending anyone ...

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1394 09/04/02 03:12 PM
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I think your hope is hopeless:) Politics aren't for women? Should I sit quietly at home and let you pass all the laws I'll have to live with? The trouble is that so many of the laws invade my territory. I actually live a terribly traditional female life-I'm a homemaker who homeschools. However, I don't want only men making the homeschooling laws for me, or for that matter, laws regulating my parenting rights. I have a brain, and I try really hard to use it! So...I think I'm qualified to get involved in politics if I want to. Men and women can be different without being excluded from having control over their own lives.

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1395 09/04/02 03:48 PM
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No you're not. Even though you have a brain, you will use your emotions under stress. Only real cold women can think straight with no heart, but then again, I wouldn't call such one a woman.

History does know some great women, but their number is minuscule and very often they were not ordinary women who were given some power and authority, they were exceptional.

Usually, the laws are the same both for men and women (in some occasions they even benefir women more), so, there is no discrimination.

What I'm saying is that if we now and here, give all the power and control to women, the world will suffer greatly. You often think of men as being dumb, unreasonable, arrogant ... but in fact, the world is running, while far from perfectly but in a more or less right direction. Men are balanced. I'm not saying that women are stupid to be in politics, or they are too weak, not at all. What I'm saying is that they should not be there, because they are rather to emotional, they will harm everybody having all the best in mind.

I would say more, women should not really be into big business, where everyine is bloodthirsty. One female-psychologist said that at any under-stress situation, any woman will use her heart, and NOT the brain and this is dangerous, don't you think?

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Err ... one more note ... I'm not trying too offend you and all other beautiful women of this forum and all in the world in general. That would be the edge of arrogance, machismo and disrespect. I'm trying to explain the point that usually the men have to hold women away from those things.

Business, politics, army, police, brute-strength sports, these are all activities that require that little something, women usually do not have. Some more physical strength ... some more psychological stability ... being a bit more "bad" (in a good sence of word) ... Army and politics above all require very clear and straight mind under all circumstances, women tend to get overexcited if something happens.

Men would be nobody without women and viceversa. There are just some things, that by nature suit women more than men and men more than women. While having softer heart and overall nature, women better take care of nature, environment, children related problems, charity, art, education. Many areas are just as good for men and women, the biggest of course is science.

I do not see any offensive point in all this.

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1397 09/04/02 04:06 PM
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I think that it's rather narrow minded to group all women under one idea. My mother is the head of her own law firm. She makes a great deal of money, runs her company firmly, and has a great deal of success. your statement that she would have to be a cold hearted woman to do this is entirely in the wrong. She loves my children, and is very affectionate with them.

When I was in high school, I learned kick boxing with my then-boyfriend. I was very good at it, and could beat him most of the time. As part of our workout, we did lift weights. I was also on the track team, and won most of my short distance sprints.

My husband is one of the sweetest people in the world, and is very sensitive. In fact, I make all of the financial and business desicions in the house, because he "thinks with his emotions".

I can't dance, I look like a stick when I do, but my brother is one of the most graceful people I've ever seen. And if you think that men can't dance, I challenge you to go to a ballet, and really watch the male dancers.

I would be making the same errors of judgement that you have, if I was to say that men are all testosterone loaded beasts, incapable of intellectual thought. Throughout history women have been placed in a secondary role, mainly because we have the ability to give birth. But that ability does not mean that we all have mush for brains. Just because we can become mothers does not mean that's all we are good for! I have seen plenty of women who have children, but no "maternal instinct". My husband and my brother's all have very strong "maternal instincts" when it comes to children! Often they are MORE protective than I would be!

We are not asking that our society be converted to "all women" we want EQUAL opportunities in the government. I think that an all male run society is just as hampered as an all female society. Only when the two sexes work together do you find true balance.

Re: Nobody likes cars or what? #1398 09/04/02 05:59 PM
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A world run by intellect with no emotion of any kind...I just read a book about World War II. Seems to me that was how Hitler planned to run the world.

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