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#1379 08/08/02 09:57 PM
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<img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> :rolleyes: Common people. Where are you?

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Why doesn't anybody discuss something here? Like what car is good, what car is bad, what is important in a car and what not ... <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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I think a lot of people don't spent time on cars, they're sort of like a washing machine, something useful for getting a job done.

OK, here's a question, would you consider getting a 2-person-only car? I really wanted an electric car because they're so environmentally sound, but the only one out at the time was a 2 seater. I really have to have a 4-seater because I travel with friends sometimes!


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I have the M Roadster, it's a two-seater only. Everybody has a passion (almost everybody), it may be cars, it may be wines, it may be art, it may be antics or it may be stamps. In most cases, a person would defend his interest telling it's worth the time and money, etc. So, if the passion are cars, I'll tell anyone that's the most interesting and thrilling experience one can have. Cars are not "to transport a person from one spot to another", just as your house is not a shelter from cold and rain. A two sitter is nice and feels very different. It's a luxury because of being an expensive and unpractical toy. The more expensive - the more unpractical. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Not always of course. I like sport cars, cars with lots of power, torque and solid dynamic performance, that is not to say I'd be driving an "engine on the wheels" type of car which has nothing but brute power which is imposssible to apply and control. A coupe or a roadster car with a nice engine (not necessarily insanely powerful) will make you feel very confident on the road. A normal sedan car can be nice but it's all about being practical, about accomodating your friends and family and about going for shopping. A logic conclusion from all this is that a two-seater car should only be purchased as the second car, once you have an every-day use one. You should also consider your priorities. A two-sitter is an aim for "car passion", thus there is no sence in bying a modest two-seater. More expensive ones obviously cost money. At this point you should think whether you feel like spending that amount of money on a car (that is, you're really interested in them) or it's just a momentary inclination which would soon pass. There are many other costy hobbies. You can completely renew the furniture in house, you can spend it on travelling, you can buy jewelry. I would'n do the later since it's stupid, so I'd only do it if my wife (a hypothetical one <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) asked me to, within reasonable limits of course. Cars are more valuable than some pieces of carbon embraced in metal.

Anyway, back to the point ... a two-seater is good to have if:

1) You like cars.
2) You have enough free money.
3) You prefer it to all other expensive purchases.
4) You already have a car for everyday use.

<img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> So much talking and with no use. Can never shut up in time. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Here is to your question: If you're environmentally aware, you should just by an economic coupe with 4 seats and low engine capacity, it will not consume a lot of fuel, have enough place for everone and reasonably envirnment friendly. Don't think they make this kind in USA, though. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Would have to be a european. You really need a new car? What's wrong with the Mustang?

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I've considered your question what's wrong with the Mustang. And, for me, the Mustang has never been attractive. Don't know why, so I couldn't tell you. It just seems like a "guy" car. My husband loves Mustangs. Unfortunately, he'd drive it like an old woman wearing bifocal blueblockers on a Sunday morning. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I don't understand the "guy car" thing. What's different between a man and a woman? That's like saying a job is a "man's job" or a "woman's job" ... can't a man be weak? Can't a woman be strong?


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I'm not referring to what's under the hood. I'm talking about the exterior. And, I'm definitely not saying that I don't appreciate a car with power. I would love to have an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish.

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There is such a concept as "majority". That is, some cars are tipically driven be women, and other by men. Ofcourse, I'm refering myself to the exterior design of the car. However, there seems to be a correlation between power and design, since it's very rare for a powerful car look too femmenine. Tkae Mercedes SLK por instance, the standart version is for women only, but the SLK 32 AMG is a different story. The same is for BMW Z3 and M Roadster, which I happen to have.

This is a very delicate matter to discuss, since the issue of "equal rights between men and women" is not far behind. But yes, I think that some jobs should, must and can only be done be men, and other - by women.

Aston Martin V12 Vanquish is a nice car. But you must be going for the brand here. That "classic english-ariscratic" aspect of it. Some time ago, Aston Martin sure was a nice car from all angles, but now it is rather underdeveloped. Do you know that, they wanted to put air conditioning handles from Ford Fiesta inside of it? The influence is clear. Anything touched by Ford degrades. Take Jaguar as another example. Aston Martin has a very strong name and image which unfortunately, for the last many years, have declined and lost its shine. I would only have it for its past merits, kind of nostalgia. The raw power under the hood is badly applied, the car is to heavy, all the mechanics are way behind current standarts.

Many cars, which were a boom a decade ago are now dying out. Either they seize to produce new competetive models, either they are bought by other huge comnies, which influence them so much that, they will hardly ever be something they had been before. Aston Martin, Lotus, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Bugatti and many other cars. The names are known, so are the merits, they leave a great legacy behind, but at the moment have no noble future.

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My very first car was a mustang.... it was a 69 fastback painted candy apple red. I loved that car....

You know what's funny? Everytime my husband see's an old car (we're talking 40's and earlier) he stops whatever he's doing... gets all glassy eyed, and goes "oooooooooooooooooo" LOL!!!

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Even with the exteriors, why would some cars be "for guys" and other cars be "for girls"?? I love Mustangs. Is that a "guy car"? What would be a "girl car"? I know guys that drive sedans, girls that drive jeeps, and everything in between. I'm really fascinated with this concept that someone would think of a car as "for a girl" and not "for a guy". Cars as far as I'm concerned are "for an individual" and it doesn't matter at all if that individual is male, female, black, white, chinese, you name it <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> All of us are unique!


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