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Shark
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How can they slam chairs into each other and so on?
Ciara Sampaio, Southeast Asia Editor [url=HTTP://SOUTHEASTASIA.BELLAONLINE.COM/SITE.ASP]Southeast Asia Travel Site[/url]
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Jellyfish
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Hey Orange! As safe as those professionals are out there, not always is everything fake. Most of the time when a chair shot comes into play, the swinger acts like he is swinging with all his might. Sure! The impact makes a big bang, and I'm sure most of the time it does smart, but let's keep in mind after watching the Tough Enough series, that those athletes are trained individuals!! If it was all real, I don't think the wrestlers would last very long. Thanks for your question and stopping in. Come back again! Chele <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> wrestling@bellaonline.org
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Gecko
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UUUUUGGGGGH! IT ISN'T FAKE, PEOPLE! Only the outcome is predetermined. No, you are not really trying to hurt anyone, it is just something that happens to a lesser degree then a real fight. Sheesh
~Chris <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" />
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Parakeet
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Parakeet
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Chair shots are not fake. There is a way to tilt your head so the chair will hit the hardest part of your head. If you watch closely, you will see that the recipient will bow his head down just before the chair shot. Some (smart ones) will put their hand up and take the brunt of the chair with their hand. In the business, this is considered the coward's way out but I consider it saving brain cells.
While the person swinging the chair is not trying to do actual harm and is trying to make sure the thinnest part of the chair (seat) hits, contact is made and it hurts.
Some have gotten concussions from chair shots.
If anyone followed ECW at all, there is a monumental scene (which I actually have a video clip of) of what they call the chair shot from hell. Tommy Dreamer handcuffed Raven to the ropes or cage (forgot which) and gave him a screaming, blasting chair shot that could be heard for miles it seems. That chair was mangled and Raven's head busted open.(They recreated that scene in WCW with Kanyon doing the honors instead of Tommy but the ECW one was much more brutal.)
If someone says that's fake, I will be glad to get in the ring and swing the chair. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
The idea of the move is not to truly injure an opponent. But injuries happen every day. This is a dangerous business and every risk these guys take could result in a broken neck or worse. That is why it is so important to train. You need to know how to fall when you do a move and how to avoid injuries. There is no way that the moves these guys (and girls) do can NOT hurt. But the hope is that they can work well enough together to not be seriously injured. That isn't always the case as we see time and time again but that is the goal.
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BellaOnline Editor Wolf
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You can take a chair shot or any other shot on the flat part of the top of your head. A friend of mine and myself used to do it all of the time in the restaurant we worked in together. Steel chairs,cookie sheets,wet floor signs, whatever we could get our hands on.
He used to give me the Stunner and I always gave him a pile driver. Fun stuff.
I believe the ring steps are even made of aluminum now so they have a bit more give than the steel ones but getting hurt is very common in wrestling.
In fact when I went to wrestling school I had to sign a waiver saying that I could possibly be killed while performing some of the moves.
Plus when you watch a match on tv, look carefully and you will see the cameras switching angles to make a move look more devastating than it actually is.
It is definitely a dangerous business and I have the utmost respect for anyone who gets out there and do the things that they do. From the worst jobber to the biggest superstar.
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Gecko
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THANK YOU! I would tell you all something, but I will invoke the time honored institution of kayfabe here and just let you wonder. It would rob a lot of the magic from what you see on tv. Let's just suffice it to say the wrestling moves, whether a chair shot or a suplex, do hurt, and I can not express enough the dangers of practicing ANY move without the proper training first. These professionals have been trained by some of the best, and in many cases have years and years of experience doing this, and they still get hurt. I myself DO NOT and WILL NOT do any wrestling move to anyone, even in front of a paying crowd, that I have not first learned and practiced many times during practice, and I am being trained by some of the best. PLEASE, AS THEY SAY, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! That goes double for you, Amadeus1220, you crazy sob.:D
~Chris <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" />
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Gecko
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Well, some of us grew up before the "Don't try this at home" stuff. So my favourite move was the PileDriver too. Sorry!
Of course I only did it so I wouldn't hurt anyone and not someone who exceeded my own body weight. I also used to answer the "Wrestlings Fake!" challenge by offering to put the Punk in a Boston Crab or Figure Four Leg Lock. (Umm, these were real, Sorry again). I began to realize this was dangerous and stopped doing it. But it did stop the wrestlings fake questions.
Moves for the swimming pool or Bouncy Castle? Razor's Edge, Power Slam (My fav), Power Bomb, Body Slam, Slam from shoulder carry, Samoan Drop, oh [censored]. Sorry Bad influence.
My nephews and Brother get clotheslines, Shoulder breakers, very slow power bombs (nephews are very little), The Elbow, Splash, Fire mans carry/air plane spin, etc. Dam, Sorry again.
Seriously, we've all done it. But Chris is right, we should leave it to the trained ones.
Tikus
PS. I've found a twisting arm bar VERY effective in real fights (not that I've been in many). Simple, effective, end of fight. You can stop them right then and there. Ooops, Sorry, I'm condoning it again aren't I.
Last edited by Tikus; 04/18/06 09:45 PM.
I'll rap you with my Cane, you Pencil Neck Geek!!!
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Gecko
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Ok, I should say this then, "DO THESE MOVES AT YOUR OWN RISK". Then when you are either dead, or someone else is dead, please tell your family not to sue the wrestling industry, as it was your dumb arse that didn't listen.
Thanks for agreeing Tikus!
~Chris <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" />
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Jellyfish
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Jellyfish
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Wrestling hurts like hell, and I would never say its fake.
I still think I can inflict damage with a chair though, and am looking foward to giving one out one day. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Gecko
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Gecko
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Are you hoping to bust in on the VIC circuit. Or do you just dream of Smacking a Chair upside someones head?
Ok, I'm staying clear of you and Chris. Ones a chair cracker and the other wants to clothesline me. Arrgghhh!!
Tikus
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I'll rap you with my Cane, you Pencil Neck Geek!!!
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